Sometimes transparency helps, apple has enough holes in its shoes from not fully disclosing information already. If they want to play the we are better card, they should at least say WHY they are playing that card.
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Apple Rejects 'Samsung Pay Mini' on App Store Ahead of January Launch
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Sometimes transparency helps, apple has enough holes in its shoes from not fully disclosing information already. If they want to play the we are better card, they should at least say WHY they are playing that card.
Well, Samsung more than likely got the reasons and the details that are involved.
So it can't have access to NFC so if it tried, Apple rejected it for that reason. It also doesn't have access to MST as that doesn't exist in an iPhone. It can't have access to Apple Pay on the web so what is it? A place to put cards you can't use? Nope. Sammy submitted it trying to use NFC and Apple of course rejected it. Now they can blow it out of proportion claiming Apple rejected their app.
No, Samsung pay works at almost any terminal. It even works with traditional card readers. One of the things that is better on a Samsung.
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Because unlike Apple Pay it works almost anywhere.
....not without the appropriate hardware to generate that credit swipe, which the iPhone does not have (because it's ****ing insecure).
On a Samsung phone, yes. The iPhone doesn't have Magnetic Secure Transmission (MST) that mimics swiping on CC machines, which is why it works practically anywhere. Until it does, Samsung Pay will still be superior on Samsung phones, so I don't really see the point in having it on an iPhone.
Lack of security is not caused by a lack of this feature. It just can't be used in as many places as Samsung Pay.
Because Samsung Pay has already proven that they can keep users information secure while Apple Pay has already been hacked.
Another reason is that Samsung Pay supports some cards that Apple Pay doesn't.
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For the magnetic part, it actually generates a one time use only card number every time it gets used. So technically not the same as the token, but it is still as secure as one.
I believe you are correct. never been something I would feel comfortable with. Especially after my Amazon order when my baby pool full of KY gets delivered.
No that's on samsung phones because they bought out Loop Pay which just mimicks the magnetic strip on the your cards. That's not the case with the iPhone because that (outdated tech) isn't on the iPhone.
Completely wrong. That applies to in-app purchases only. Otherwise, why is there a Paypal app?
Good, that will soften the blow from the billions they lost due to their Note debacle.
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Incorrect. Samsung Pay on an iPhone would NOT "work almost anywhere."
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It's not available. Samsung doesn't allow other companies to use it. Do you do ANY research on these topics before making declarations?
This doesn't make much sense but it's a good click bait article for mac rumors. Samsung pay mini was just for online payments not like the samsung pay for mobile devices which IMO is superior to apple pay because it worked about 90% of places I've tried it, even when cashiers thought it wouldn't work. It was especially helpful for stores that try to block mobile payments.
The only place it will not work are gas stations where you have to dip your card in and leave it. It also used similar tokenization methods as other nfc payment solutions and was just as fast as apple pay in my experiences. If apple bought loop pay they would have truly revolutionized the mobile payment game but unfortunately that technology is being wasted in samsung phones.
The only place it will not work are gas stations where you have to dip your card in and leave it. It also used similar tokenization methods as other nfc payment solutions and was just as fast as apple pay in my experiences. If apple bought loop pay they would have truly revolutionized the mobile payment game but unfortunately that technology is being wasted in samsung phones.
Most likely Samsung Pay mini is the application used to allow Samsung Pay to be used on the Gear watches. I got a similar update for my V20 after ditching Samsung after the Note 7 debacle. Would this interfere with Apple's revenue since they have their own watch and payment platform? I think that Apple's decision is smart in this matter.
Sometimes you drive me crazy, NT
Just what do you think is "****ing insecure" about MST?
Tokens and one-time codes are common concepts that can span many payment and storage applications.
Heck, big name merchants could even pay a token vault to keep all the credit card numbers they gather, and then not worry about their own data breaches as much.
Defcon had some words to say on Samsung Pay:Sometimes you drive me crazy, NT
Just what do you think is "****ing insecure" about MST?
https://media.defcon.org/DEF CON 24/DEF CON 24 presentations/DEFCON-24-Salvador-Mendoza-Samsung-Pay-Tokenized-Numbers-WP.pdf
I tend to side with the hackers who demonstrate their exploits over "tech journalists" that really exist just to review things.
https://www.slashgear.com/samsung-pay-mst-tech-shown-to-be-susceptible-to-theft-fraud-08451037/
That said, I don't know if this has been addressed since then, I hope they have.
Chaos Computer Congress is coming up this year, any bets as to whether Thunderstrike 3 has been unveiled yet??
While I have you hear, I know you're big in the touchscreen field. What are your thoughts on the upcoming haptic screens in the pipeline?
Wrong. Apple Pay/Contactless has two modes. One is full EMV mode, the second mode which is more common is mag stripe emulation, which transfers the exact same data over RF that Samsung Pay over magstripe does. If you check the receipt after a Apple Pay transaction and it doesn't list the AID, then emulation mode was used. McDonalds and Dunkin Donuts are two vendors that do emulation, off the top of my head, while Walgreens has upgraded to EMV.
In fact, by being RF, you can tap into such a transaction further away than the magnetic field coupling than Samsung uses, so the argument can be made that Apple Pay is less secure.
You are saying the iPhone has support for the same "magstripe emulation" that Samsung Pay does and has been distinguishing itself with over the iPhone all this time?