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I love apple but this is something that angers me. Someone please sue them and hopefully they get swift justice.
 
I should be able to read them on any device. This would $uck. Totally. Don't do it.

Another way to look as it is that Amazon use their own format for their eBooks. That isn't Apple's fault.

Much like Apple got blasted for having DRM heavy music on itunes, Amazon should be questioned for still sticking with their own format instead of adopting a industry wide standard.

Why don't they want to use a different format? It keeps people locked into Amazon.

Regardless of all that I very much doubt Apple will stop people from using the kindle app and books already purchased from it so there's little need to worry.
 
Much like Apple got blasted for having DRM heavy music on itunes, Amazon should be questioned for still sticking with their own format instead of adopting a industry wide standard.

Why don't they want to use a different format? It keeps people locked into Amazon.

The answer is simple - there isn't an industry wide standard for providing eBooks with DRM.

Only several different formats favoured by different companies.

Amazon has their own, Apple has their own and there are others that compete with them.
 
I hope apple reconsiders

I own Macs and other apple devices, but I don't like when apple tries to control my shopping preferences. Nobody can deny that the apple ebook store cannot compare with Amazon on the number of ebook prices and availability. If I'm looking for a particular book chances are that I won't find it in the apple store. Then, the only alternative is to buy it from Amazon. The day apple makes the kindle store not compatible with the ipad, I will stop using the ipad for reading books and buy a Kindle from Amazon. As simple as that. Apple should let the market decide where customers shop for ebooks using their ipads. After all, we paid $500+ for it.
 
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People are playing this up because it's Sony. But let's face it - why the **** would you want to buy anything from the Sony Reader store anyway?

Because it's a choice we as consumers want to make. We want options. Its not for Apple to decide what music, movie, e-book etc. provider we must use.
 
I don't wish to get locked in any further into Apple's money machine.

Was thinking about buying an iPad and iPhone, because I thought there would be some common sense within Apple Corp. There is none.

You are being very smart.

I'm already regretting the purchases I've made earlier last year. A new iPhone 4 & MacBook Pro, only to have Apple dumb down their computers by locking them into an app store!

It may not be apparent yet, but Apple is pissing off a lot of previously loyal customers.
 
Good for Apple. They built it! Why the f&%! should they let others come in and make money through it. That's like saying McDonald's should have to let Burger King set up a small cart to sell burgers in the back of their restaurant -- that's ignorant and so is letting these big competitors come in and sell their stuff through Apple's store!

No kidding, it is the same as if some start up company wanted to market an Internet browser for Windows....
 
Apple has finally crossed the line...

I am a huge Apple Fan Boy... and can find reason to support many of their decisions. However, it seems with this decision they have crossed the line to simply all out greed. Trust me, I'm a capitalist at heart, but to force your business partners, that already have established business relationships and distribution methods with their customers to suddenly have to give up nearly a third of their revenue, and force them to make major changes in their applications... simply, and for no other reason than to increase your already insane profits... that's just simply wrong...

They are starting to move into Microsoft territory now by using their popularity to completely squash and eliminate competition...

Someone needs to tell Jobs that he's starting to act like Bill Gates...
 
brilliant idea of Apple. Earning money with other peoples work. That sounds awesome. The app downloads books fom the Sony store....so there is no expense for apple at all. They just want to push their crappy iBooks so there is a little chance they can compete. Amazon&Nook have done it right by releasing a reader app for more device then just iOS. Guess apple realized that now and just want to cut them off at all because there is no way Steve would release an ibooks app for android.....which is pretty stupid in my opinion....so what they do is charge money for selling books through a diff store. Just the app is related to apple store...the books dont have anything to do with it. Just think of that and you realize how bullcrap this is...its all about the money.
 
Another way to look as it is that Amazon use their own format for their eBooks. That isn't Apple's fault.

Much like Apple got blasted for having DRM heavy music on itunes, Amazon should be questioned for still sticking with their own format instead of adopting a industry wide standard.

Why don't they want to use a different format? It keeps people locked into Amazon.

Regardless of all that I very much doubt Apple will stop people from using the kindle app and books already purchased from it so there's little need to worry.

Apple uses its own DRM on its iBooks, compatible with only.. Apple devices!

Ultimately, Apple DRM or Propriety format is the same - available to one device or specific software ( i.e, Kindle reader ).

The reason for the lock down - Apple wants payment for paid content provided on the its devices - after all - content is king for the iDevices - especially the iPad. That is where the $$ is. It appeared Apple was getting better - loosen its grip - but they've just applied it in a different area.
 
I don't know but they could be sued. But either way this become yet another reason not to trust Apple. They keep changing the rules and I would call this a rather low move on their part.

Edit just check the kindle store. It kicks you out to the web browser.

Actually it has always for me, "kicked" me to the web store of amazon. The iPad version and the iPhone version. Has this been different for anyone else? It has done this since day one.

Also I still the think the worst e-book store is google's with Apple's a close second.
 
What legal trouble? As so many fandroids love to point out, Apple has no monopoly to illegally leverage. No law that I know of says a small market participant has to grant other parties equal access to its infrastructure.

After putting it in the that light, I would almost agree. This will come back to shoot apple either in court or in the foot when Honeycomb tablets are outselling iPads.

This is a dumb money grab on Apple's part that they need to end. I love that the API is there to allow such purchases, but I don't think it should mean you must exclusively use it.
 
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I love apple but this is something that angers me. Someone please sue them and hopefully they get swift justice.

+1, I've been a only Mac guy since October-1984, and now Apple is getting too big for its own pants!
 
oh man

:mad: I did not take the time to read through all 236 comments. But I use my iphone and ipad to have all my tech books I need for work; and all my ministry books. I cannot carry 100's of paper books and documents with me. So does this line:

or let customers have access to purchases they have made outside the App Store

soon mean that PDF reader, gooddocs, iBooks PDF, etc, will soon go away and we will not be able to sync our PDF's? or e-books we created or PDF's converted using Calibre?

This is a bad move. iPad makes one heck of an e-reader with the ability to support BN, Amazon, etc. I need this....... I am NOT going to carry multiple devices. That is the whole reason I bought and iPad to begin with.
 
What's the difference between Apple's policy, and Wal-Mart's policy not to sell Target products. Or GM's policy not to sell Ford products. Of McDonald's not to sell Burger King products.

If you like Amazon bookstore better, buy a Kindle.

It's my understanding the Kindle is the #1 eBook reader; going to be hard to say AAPL has a monopoly on tablet books.
 
I know many people here love to shoot first and ask questions -- never but...

for those that do here is the deal: neither the Nook nor Kindle iOS apps offer in-app purchasing of books. They send you to a browser. The Sony Reader app had users making purchases away from Apple which NO app is allowed to do since the beginning of iOS App time. Apple isn't being punitive here, Sony isn't playing by the rules that every other iOS developer lives by.
 
Sounds a lot like Microsoft tactics

This is a bad move by Apple.

I personally, don't like it. It may seem like a good business move up front, hut it is doing the same thing that will keep other readers marginal.

The HUGE selling point of the iPad is that I can read books from all major distributors and buy directly from them.

It's very much what MS did with Windoze. Although I've used and loved Apple products for many years, it's this Ballmerish thinking that could bring it down.
 
Good for Apple. They built it! Why the f&%! should they let others come in and make money through it.

Because customers will produce profit for Apple by (a) buying iPads (which I won't if this turns out to be true and Kindle and other book apps go), (b) buying other content, from which Apple gets a cut, and (c) buying other Apple products because I get assimilated into the "ecosystem".

To try and hold on to all of it, means in my case, and I suspect a lot of others that Apple don't get any of it. I'll go to Android and every app I buy, every piece of content I consume will send zero $ to Apple. This is even outside the whole theoretical argument of do I want to buy from a company with such a fascistic controlling ethos.

A better analogy to yours would be not Burger King having franchises inside it, but say Neiman Marcus building a huge shopping mall but only having shops that sell NM products in it.
 
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