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Apple Relaunches Switch Website

BGil said:
Exactly. Up until now (or when Vista comes out next year) Apple has dominated the music and print domains because of superior technology. They won't have that after Vista is released.

Apple had the same kind of lead in video and film production up until Windows 2000 showed up and since then Microsoft has started winning that area. Avid and Adobe barely spend any development dollars on the Mac platform anymore (in video/film). It's a shame that all Avid High-def systems only run on Windows now when they all used to be Mac based.

Digidesign (part of Avid now) has been moving more towards Windows every year. IIRC their new Pro Tools Venue systems run on XP only and Pro Tools is supposed to be superior on Windows now.

I think the same will probably happen in music and print now too.
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The reason Adobe and Avid aren't spending any money on the Mac platform is because they are having too much trouble competing with Final Cut Pro, which is good enough for most video and film production work (ever see *Cold Mountain*?) and much cheaper than the equivalent product from Avid. By the way - why are you distinguishing XP 64 from XP? It's pretty much the same OS. There are significant changes between XP and 2003, but 2003 is purely a server OS, and at $999 not to many people are likely to buy it for desktop systems - it's a hint at what Vista will be like (without the kinds of applications that one would expect on a desktop system, and without the new rendering engine), but I don't think it counts as a step in the desktop system analogous to Jaguar/Panther/Tiger.
 
oingoboingo said:
Edit: a fairly severe case of north-westerly facing wood.
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:eek: LOL...that's hysterical. If they were going for that look, he should've had a much bigger bulge.
 
oingoboingo said:
Maybe I'm just feeling a little cruel this afternoon, but there's something about this image on the 'Choose A Mac' page of the new Switch site which really tickles my fancy. It's the one at the top where the elderly grandma-type person is wheeling out a 22.7kg (50 pound) eMac on a trolley...while supporting herself with a walking stick in the other hand. Did she need that walking stick before she entered the store, or only after trying to pick up the eMac? Her lazy daughter can't even be bothered to push the trolley to the car...do you think she's going to help lift that old-skool CRT bad boy onto the desk and unwrap it? Nuh uh!!!

Edit: Additionally, due to an unfortunate trick of the light, it looks like the guy walking out with the new PowerBook has soiled his pants and has a fairly severe case of north-westerly facing wood. I guess he really was excited about owning a new Mac.
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Funniest MR post for a while. :D
 
oingoboingo said:
Among the 10 reasons given by Apple on their new site to switch, I find number 7 the most interesting:

"Enthusiast. Fan. Addict. Ever hear a PC user described this way? When you buy an Apple computer, you realize why so many people who try a Mac never go back. And then you begin talking to those people, sharing stories, getting advice. The Apple user community enjoys support from all sides: the Genius in the Apple store, the musician on that message board, the photographer next door. They all share a common bond forged by one decidedly uncommon computer."

Apple has clearly taken notice of its enthusiastic user base, and is using it as a selling point. Very interesting, and very insightful, IMHO. Apple really does pay attention to grass roots sites like this one. So to welcome any new Windows switchers, in a now officially Apple-sanctioned kinda way, I'd just like to say OMFG DELL AND TEH MICRO$OFT ARE TEH SUX0R!!!
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WOW< THEY Are going to be sued by me, that is exactly what i tell Winblows users all of the time, tey took my words outta my mouth!!!!
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They forgot switch reason #11:

"We've got a two-button mouse now too! Well, sort of...really, it's one button with cool touch sensors built into it. Y'know, touch sensors, like on your iPod! Just trust us, it's cool, and you can right click now. And you can squeeze it. Did we mention it was cool?"
 
tny said:
The reason Adobe and Avid aren't spending any money on the Mac platform is because they are having too much trouble competing with Final Cut Pro, which is good enough for most video and film production work (ever see *Cold Mountain*?) and much cheaper than the equivalent product from Avid. By the way - why are you distinguishing XP 64 from XP? It's pretty much the same OS. There are significant changes between XP and 2003, but 2003 is purely a server OS, and at $999 not to many people are likely to buy it for desktop systems - it's a hint at what Vista will be like (without the kinds of applications that one would expect on a desktop system, and without the new rendering engine), but I don't think it counts as a step in the desktop system analogous to Jaguar/Panther/Tiger.
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Windows XP 64-bit is built off of Win2k3 SP1 code not XP code. The version number for it is 5.1 like all Win2k3 products not 5.1 like XP. XP 64-bit is nothing like Vista. Win32, DirectX, and the Windows Media Framework have been replaced in Vista so nothing "Vista native" will run on any current OS as is.

None of what FCP has been able to do is affecting Avid in broadcast, news, and film. Very very few major motion pictures are cut in FCP. In fact, there are so few films cut in FCP that everytime one is it makes the news. IIRC Avid still has a virtual monopoly on that market.
 
oingoboingo said:
Edit: Additionally, due to an unfortunate trick of the light, it looks like the guy walking out with the new PowerBook has soiled his pants and has a fairly severe case of north-westerly facing wood. I guess he really was excited about owning a new Mac.
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Also, notice that he's the only one not smiling.

We should start taking bets on when Apple will replace that pic.
 
I really love how they are makeing comparissons between the mac and the ipod. I always thought that ipod would be something that would make an enormous impact on mac sales because it got the apple name out there on a crazy cool product.

ex. You have always been told that apple computers suck. You get an ipod its really cool and works nearly perfectly. Its time to get a new computer and your pc has been giving you a ton of trouble viruses, spyware, and just not working in general so you decide to give mac a chance.
 
faintember said:
Maybe they are trying to say that macs work with things other than items on the bleeding edge of technology???

or maybe they are just lazy...:D
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Hmm, I thought it could be your idea + Apple wanting to show that the one very identifiable product was a fancy new Apple product; let the iPod hog the spotlight sorta thing.
Chundles said:
Hmm, think that's the first gold iPod mini I've seen in ooo, a year?
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To me it looks like the first green mini. The gold was more bronzey, I think.
 
AP_piano295 said:
I really love how they are makeing comparissons between the mac and the ipod. I always thought that ipod would be something that would make an enormous impact on mac sales because it got the apple name out there on a crazy cool product.

ex. You have always been told that apple computers suck. You get an ipod its really cool and works nearly perfectly. Its time to get a new computer and your pc has been giving you a ton of trouble viruses, spyware, and just not working in general so you decide to give mac a chance.
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that's what got me over...but it was a good 2 years after my ipod that I got my imac, just becasue I didn't need a new machine yet. the halo effect will be slow and gradual - it's not gonna happen overnight...
 
m-dogg said:
that's what got me over...but it was a good 2 years after my ipod that I got my imac, just becasue I didn't need a new machine yet. the halo effect will be slow and gradual - it's not gonna happen overnight...
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Tru but late is better than never
 
hob said:
Maybe it's because this is the first time I've had the feeling that Apple is sounding snobbish. I've always liked the fact that they're better than Windows, and they know it - but they don't really have to point it out. Now the language they're using is just ridiculous. Things like "well, you wouldn't be switching if Windows was easy to use, would you?" - this sing-song semi-sarcastic language just makes me feel sick.
Maybe it's only on the American site because the rest of the world would instantly lose respect for Apple if they saw it!
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That's funny. A remark like that generally would be considered "British flippancy" and not the usual American form of advertising. There were plenty of remarks online regarding the subject in terms of the phrasing used on Apple's webpage for the new Mighty Mouse.

And separating America from the rest of the world's tastes is rather odd coming from someone from the U.K. There are plenty of Frenchmen that throw the British along with us in their "Anglo-American" attacks on our shared culture as well as denying Britain is part of what they define as *cultural Europe*.
 
BGil said:
None of what FCP has been able to do is affecting Avid in broadcast, news, and film. Very very few major motion pictures are cut in FCP. In fact, there are so few films cut in FCP that everytime one is it makes the news. IIRC Avid still has a virtual monopoly on that market.
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Woop Woop! Off topic alert!

FCP IS having an effect on film (or so says my brother who works in the broadcast industry). In bigger studios they still tend to use Avid, but FCP has made a great impact on smaller production houses because its so much cheaper then Avid and very powerful.

Its probably wrong to say that FCP is Avids direct competitor but FCP have certainly carved out a niche for itself, perhaps at the expense of Premiere.

As for print- its still isnt close to being the industry standard in the UK. And Windows's colour collaberation tools is meant to be a bit poo poo i am told.
 
From the switch site said:
such as the amazing widgets in Dashboard, that are simply unimaginable on a Windows-based PC.
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Yah. Unless you have kofabulator. :p

Enthusiast. Fan. Addict. Ever hear a PC user described this way?
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Yah. Often actually. how many tech sites are out there that are for putzing around with Windows. Tweaking. Theming. Modding. Etc.

One of the cooler dead on items that they mentioned.....

There’s no need to waste trees printing everything out when you shop online. Whether you’re booking airline tickets, shopping for shoes or concert tickets, or subscribing to an online comic, you can simply save your receipt as a PDF. When your item arrives, you can throw away the receipt. If there should be any problem, simply print the PDF and it will look just like it came from your Web browser the day you bought it. (Whenever you print in Mac OS X, you have the option to save the document as a PDF instead of sending it to your printer.)
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This is a big deal for those who don't like hard copy. Sure you can go out and spend $300 on Acrobat but why? Supposedly Vista will be introing a PDF type file that you can create out of the box in the OS but its doubtlessly going to be some weird proprietary format.

By and large its a good site. They play fast and loose with some of the facts. *shrugs* Whatever.
 
oingoboingo said:
They do crash from time to time, but I have to say...I literally can't remember the last time my G5 crashed (I'm sure it hasn't done so once in 2005...maybe sometime last year perhaps?), and IIRC the last time my PowerBook locked up was about this time last year. Both of these machines are used daily, and they are both basically never turned off (only put to sleep). Two years after switching to the Mac, I'm still impressed with the stability. I think Apple is justified in including their statement. Maybe it's the reason that our friend with the PowerBook and the creased shorts is so excited.
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Pretty much like my XP machine, then. The problem I have is their comment suggests XP is very susceptible to crashing and that just hasn't been the case for me.
 
egor said:
Pretty much like my XP machine, then. The problem I have is their comment suggests XP is very susceptible to crashing and that just hasn't been the case for me.
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I personally consider it user error. Not sure what the deal is. Maybe some people are using older drivers. Maybe some don't have the most up to date firmware or don't have their computer secured but I can count on one hand how many times Windows 2000 and XP have crashed on my home computer systems in the last 5 years and 90% of that is because I was trying to do something funky. Force a drive for a device it wasn't intended for, etc.
I don't understand how I can use a new dell Optiplex 2.8Ghz, a Latitude CSx 500Mhz, a Toshiba Sat 850Mhz, and an IBM ThinkPad 1.5Ghz and none of them crash. Dead serious. They are all of various age and I never have any problems with them. In point of fact I loan the Tosh and Latitude out to friends when they need a laptop to work on. They never have problems either. Its got to be user error. :confused:
 
WTH is with everyone's hangup on the guys pants and if they are wrinkled?!!? They are shorts for god sake. Its not as if its a big freaking deal. I take mine out of the dryer all the time and put them on wrinkled. Its not as if you are making a fashion statement to begin with, with shorts. :rolleyes:

That looser. How dare he not wear a tie to the Apple store. BURN YOU HARITIC BURN!
 
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