Apple release date of unlocked AT&T iPhone

[RetiredInFl]

Not necessarily true, please see this handy chart from this great thread by Satnam.
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Despite the "handy chart" (which I have not looked at) ATT & T-Mo UNLOCKED iPhone WILL NOT work on Verizon however Verizon iPhones, which are unlocked WILL WORK on T-Mo & AT&T. Verizon will NOT allow outside phones on their CDMA network. You can show me all the charts you like, but that is the fact.

 

[michlc88]

If you buy any ATT model from the Apple Store "device only" it will be unlocked as well. I bought a 64GB Gold 5S without giving any of my ATT account information. When I connected it to iTunes I got the "Congratulations, your iPhone is unlocked" message.

 

[alphaod]

The T-Mobile or Verizon one comes unlocked. Sure the T-Mobile one comes with a SIM card, but it works. I bought like 3 of them, so I'm sure

 

[Agent OrangeZ]

That makes the Verizon version the most valuable. It is unlocked... so it will work on T-Mobile and AT&T just fine. But it ALSO works on Verizon's CDMA network, so when it comes to reselling it, you have more potential buyers.

 

[terraphantm]

No, that's not strictly true. The hardware and thus, model number, is identical however only the Verizon units have CDMA support enabled in the radio baseband. An AT&T/T-Mobile iPhone will be data-only on Verizon until VoLTE (and even that's assuming Apple upgrades iOS to support VoLTE on already sold iPhones, which may or may not happen)

You sure about that? Back in the 4S days, the hardware was the same across the board, but the ones with the CDMA radio disabled had different part numbers. Has anyone actually tried using a T-mobile or AT&T 5S with Verizon?

 

[imaginex20]

You sure about that? Back in the 4S days, the hardware was the same across the board, but the ones with the CDMA radio disabled had different part numbers. Has anyone actually tried using a T-mobile or AT&T 5S with Verizon?

The T-Mobile and AT&T have their CDMA radios disabled so therefore it will not work on Verizon. Verizon's 5S/5C is identical to the T-Mobile/AT&T phone just with the CDMA radio enabled and they have the same Model numbers.

Same thing happened with the AT&T iPhone 5 vs T-Mobile iPhone 5...same exact phone but when T-Mobile released the iPhone 5...both models were exactly same but the early AT&T phones didn't have the AWS band enabled.

 

[terraphantm]

Same thing happened with the AT&T iPhone 5 vs T-Mobile iPhone 5...same exact phone but when T-Mobile released the iPhone 5...both models were exactly same but the early AT&T phones didn't have the AWS band enabled.

That was at least a staggered release date. After that April cutoff, everything was sold with all bands activated, and the warranty replacements were compatible with either carrier. Again, has anyone tried?

I would be curious to know if the warranty replacements are the same or not. At least in the 4S days, Verizon and Sprint warranty replacements came out of the same "pile".

 

[imaginex20]

That was at least a staggered release date. After that April cutoff, everything was sold with all bands activated, and the warranty replacements were compatible with either carrier. Again, has anyone tried?

I would be curious to know if the warranty replacements are the same or not. At least in the 4S days, Verizon and Sprint warranty replacements came out of the same "pile".

Again...the Verizon 5S has the CDMA baseband enabled where as the ATT/TMobile does not. You are going to get a Verizon one if you original had a Verizon. I don't know why its so hard to understand...

 

[terraphantm]

Again...the Verizon 5S has the CDMA baseband enabled where as the ATT/TMobile does not. You are going to get a Verizon one if you original had a Verizon. I don't know why its so hard to understand...

I just want to know if anyone actually tried. Because CDMA and non-CDMA never shared part numbers in the past. If I get my hands on an unlocked GSM iPhone 5s this will be the first thing I try if no one else has.

With things like warranty replacements, generally the "same model number" phones came out of the same pile. If that's still the case today (otherwise I can't imagine why Apple wouldn't have just issued a new part number), then that means that either Apple has a mechanism for whitelisting replacements, or they're all whitelisted from the get go.

 

[imaginex20]

I just want to know if anyone actually tried. Because CDMA and non-CDMA never shared part numbers in the past. If I get my hands on an unlocked GSM iPhone 5s this will be the first thing I try if no one else has.

With things like warranty replacements, generally the "same model number" phones came out of the same pile. If that's still the case today (otherwise I can't imagine why Apple wouldn't have just issued a new part number), then that means that either Apple has a mechanism for whitelisting replacements, or they're all whitelisted from the get go.

Could be model number and carrier...