Tiger was updated lots when it first came out too but as it matured the updates came further and further apart. I expect this trend to continue with Leopard.
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Apple release Security Update 2008-002
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Tiger was updated lots when it first came out too but as it matured the updates came further and further apart. I expect this trend to continue with Leopard.
I just don't remember rebooting after the updates for tiger unless I've blocked that part of my memory.
Yeah - all this brouhaha is for nothing.
Safari Update: also updates WebKit, a core component of OS X used by many apps for HTML rendering, JavaScript support and more. Reboot unsurprising. Note how WebKit nightly builds do not need a reboot simply because they install beside the system-level version, not replace it. Every Safari update I've ever installed since its first appearance back in the day has required a restart.
Mac OS X Security Update: low-level update which touches many core components of the OS. Again, reboot unsurprising -- every Security Update since the dawn of time has required one.
Software Update should be used for its intended purpose: notification of the availability of updates. Note that Software Update shows the small 'reboot required' symbol next to updates which require a restart. Not only that, but it notifies the user that a reboot will be required before the updates are installed and provides the option to cancel. Finally, after the updates are ready to be installed, Software Update once again asks the user if it is convenient to restart, providing a handy Not Now button. You'll notice that in Leopard, the actual file-copy process for reboot-required updates only occurs during the shutdown sequence, so it's perfectly safe to answer 'Not Now'.
Really -- the power is in our hands
Uh, was this really necessary?
Yep I think so and I really appreciate him/her taking the time to post the particulars of this security update. Why would you have a problem with that?
A security update is pretty important, I'd say users shouldn't wait on installing it.
Again, why couldn't apple just have waited for the second of today's updates and released them together? Apple usually does this instead of releasing updates just hours apart (I did the first because I didn't expect there would be another just hours later), I just wish they would have been more careful with the ones today.
It would be rather absurd to install a security update and then be forced to use telnet instead of ssh!
seriously, doesn't it get old bashing Microsoft and Vista after a while?
Nope.
But you would think they'd get tired of being such an easy target.
It looks like some people have some problems with the update.
from here
http://http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=6859298
from here
http://http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=6859298
OMG!
I has to reboot again! Just another sign of how Apple is becoming less and less consumer oriented and more about making evil money! but seriously ... does Doc Q do the details for every update? I never noticed that before. Thanks Doctor Q.
Some of these flaws have been public since 2005!! Several are from 2006 too!
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=307562
When I can, I try to provide that information in Security Update threads because it helps focus the discussion (some people are too lazy to click the link or two to get to Apple's description) and because it lets the thread be retrieved when people search the forums for some of the terminology or application names.
The nice thing is most or the arbitrary code execution exploits are only for 10.4.X. Apparently Apple's done some work to make sure they don't work under 10.5
On a side note the cool thing about these updates is they aren't just security updates. If you look at the release notes any time there's a security hole in a *nix service Apple just bumps the version to the newest point release since it's easier for them. This means we get all the latest security updates and the bug fixes. This may be why some people are having problems with SSH since the new version included includes a lot of updates to the encryption algorithms used in the client / server.
Apple and M$ have two different update methodologies in all fairness. Windows Service Packs are more like major (ex. 10.4 to 10.5) point releases (minus dramatic feature changes) than Apple's minor (10.5.1 to 10.5.2) point releases. I prefer Apples approach because it addresses problems quickly. But the Service Pack approach has its advantages also.
I have the bus error as well... extremely annoying as I cannot reach any of my linux boxes anymore :S Looks like I need to get a SSH app instead :S
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This worked for me; seems like AirFoil is the cause:
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SSH Bus error fix
It seems that people suffering the bus error have Rogue Amoeba's Instant Hijack installed, which may or may not be causing the problem.
As per this message on the Apple Discussions site, disabling Instant Hijack with
seems to fix the problem.
Another work around is to run ssh via sudo, e.g.
becomes
Of course, any keys or configuration stored in your ~/.ssh directory won't get applied to this connection but if you simply can't live without Instant Hijack, it's the way to go until this is fixed by the responsible party.
It seems that people suffering the bus error have Rogue Amoeba's Instant Hijack installed, which may or may not be causing the problem.
As per this message on the Apple Discussions site, disabling Instant Hijack with
Code:
sudo /usr/local/hermes/bin/hermesctl unloadAnother work around is to run ssh via sudo, e.g.
Code:
ssh user@example.com
Code:
sudo ssh user@example.comDoes it really matter? Anyway, my point was perhaps more, the safari update could've waited, and people could wait out the week or until more important updates come (such as the security one).
Also, I stand a little corrected, as I forgot the updates were only hours apart (I downloaded Safari before I went to bed and the security one in the morning).
I don't get it.....for some reason when i downloaded it and installed it, it got stuck at the screen where it says CONFIGURING FILES. during the reboot process.
anyone have any idea why this is happening?
EDIT: WIERD! I just re-downloaded it from the apple.com link from the front page and installed it with no problems now.
anyone have any idea why this is happening?
EDIT: WIERD! I just re-downloaded it from the apple.com link from the front page and installed it with no problems now.
Unable to boot after Security Update and Safari Update
I installed the updates for both packages and my Powerbook is now unable to boot. I've gone through the battery of boot options (safe, verbose) and done the non-intrusive fixes (nvram, PRAM) -- both with no success.
Any thoughts?
10.5.2
PB G4 1.67
768 RAM
I installed the updates for both packages and my Powerbook is now unable to boot. I've gone through the battery of boot options (safe, verbose) and done the non-intrusive fixes (nvram, PRAM) -- both with no success.
Any thoughts?
10.5.2
PB G4 1.67
768 RAM
I did. My finder menu remains grayed-out for 30-45 seconds after the machine is booted. The only menu item not gray is "Label". After that the normal items become black text and usable.
I'm still trying to figure this one out.