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ro2nie said:
Hey...The 17-inch powerbooks have been removed from the store :)

So. as laptops, there are only ibook 12", ibook 14" and powerbook 12" left with PPC processors waiting for their successors.
 
otter-boy said:
I doubt that "Most PC laptops have dual-layer drives," especially since most Windows laptops sell for less than $800.

In your statement, you're describing one part of the high-end market. There are still companies like Sony and Lenovo that make $2500+ laptops with no internal DVD drives.

Companies make trade-offs with every computer they produce. I think Apple should have gone for the dual-layer burners in the 15", but it's hardly as simple as saying that that is the only reasonable choice. I am glad they chose the 8x dual-layer drives for the 17".

The $800 laptops do have the DL DVD burner. The $600 ones come with a combo drive. Apple's tradeoffs are in favor of looks, size, and weight. It's going to be more expensive and not have some of the features the PC ntoebooks do, but it wins hands down on portability and design.
 
Cue said:
I see
ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 with 128MB of GDDR3
and
ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 with 256MB of GDDR3

Does this mean
ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 with 64MB of GDDR3

for the 13.3' Macbook? :p
A man can dream....

I'd be surprised to see the X1600 in their consumer portable. They have to make some drastic distinctions between their pro and consumer lines. Graphics seems to be a logical place to do that since most people don't *need* a great graphics chipset. (Keep dreaming.)
 
17" LAPTOP!!
How fat are we getting in this country

No the vibe i'm getting is alot of us (myself included) are waiting for the macbook to be released. Being a 12' powerbook owner, can't imagine moving to such a large laptop in the mobility sense, unless you really need it as a desktop replacement or on-the-go-pro work.
 
Again, I keep adding the 17" to my cart at the Apple Store and then taking it out. I want a new 'book, but I have to wait for Adobe to release a UB version of CS so I might as well wait for the Merom procs, no? I can't stand this! Unless of course, Apple decided to socket the Yonah procs in the 17", I could then upgrade the proc later. Someone needs to crack that case now and find out!

B
 
dferrara said:
Poor 12". You deserved a 120GB option and DL a long time ago.

But now, at least you are the master of your domain. :D

Thinkin about it i've had my 1.5Ghz 12 incher for over a year now with no real updates. I never thought that my powerbook would become the king of all powerbooks especially after buying 15 months ago.

LONG LIVE THE POWERBOOK!!!
 
hope the price will go down to the old pricing of the powerbooks, 1599 for bottom 15 inch, 1999 for the 17 inch
 
icloud said:
17" LAPTOP!!
How fat are we getting in this country

No the vibe i'm getting is alot of us (myself included) are waiting for the macbook to be released. Being a 12' powerbook owner, can't imagine moving to such a large laptop in the mobility sense, unless you really need it as a desktop replacement or on-the-go-pro work.

I'd like a 20" MacBook Pro :p
 
JRM PowerPod said:
Thinkin about it i've had my 1.5Ghz 12 incher for over a year now with no real updates. I never thought that my powerbook would become the king of all powerbooks especially after buying 15 months ago.

LONG LIVE THE POWERBOOK!!!

Lol! Yes, it's a miracle. Baby brother finally wins.
 
jcoffman78 said:
Who gives a rats ass about a 17in Macbook Pro. unless you have 2800.00 to blow. Damn you Steve give me my Macbook!!!!!(In Black Preferably)
You really can't blame Apple...

People want new INTEL portables...

The majority want the updated iBook but you can't offer that first 'cause the majority would buy that and forget the more expensive ones. Better to offer them last.

You also, don't want to offer the 17" MacBook first, 'cause it's still pretty high and the people who would buy a high unit, just might upgrade this one when you finally do bring it out. Plus, those waiting for an iBook will never think about upgrading to something so lush. They'll wait it out till you bring on the iBooks.

You offer the 15" MacBook pro right out of the shute and the Gotta-havers will jump on immediately just because they want to try the whole Intel thing. Also, you have a chance to convert some of those waiting for iBooks and just decide to bite the bullet and get the low-end MacBook Pro.

Executed perfectly, if you ask me.

Plus, something I guarantee you...

There will be some extra something specials (and not just color) that only the iBook (MacBook?) will have -- it will be cheap enough I bet that some owners of the new Pro line will say "Hhhhmmm.... I'm gonna get one of these too for knock-about use just so I can do (have) X, Y and Z."
 
In the Apple Store it states 3 USB pors... on the Apple hardware/hompage it states 2 USB ports...? WTF?

again... FW800...oooooooooo aahhhhhhh...oooo...ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
 
Another thing to consider for those comparing the MBPs to Windows laptops--how many open RAM slots do the Windows machines have? The MBP in its standard configuration of 1GB RAM has an open slot. In fact, you can save $100 if you are willing to buy the machine with 2 512MB DIMMs instead of the standard, single, 1GB DIMM.

Chris
 
Another Dell comparison, the Inspiron 9400 prices out to $2498 with the lower rez screen, the upgrade to higher resolution is $119. That's with only 100 baseT and I'm not sure what FW it has if any.

Apple's laptop pricing is looking good on the high end, it would be nice to see a drop on the 15's, and hopefully they'll have at least one seriously budget config of the macbook when it's released.

I would also like to see a higher resolution available as an option for the 17.
 
Cue said:
I see
ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 with 128MB of GDDR3
and
ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 with 256MB of GDDR3

Does this mean
ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 with 64MB of GDDR3

for the 13.3' Macbook? :p
A man can dream....
Nope the dream will die, the smaller MacBook is going to have integrated graphics, its going to be some Intel 9450, and everyone is going to bitch about it. So lets get it over with, integrated graphics will be in the small MacBook:(
 
Whigga Spitta said:
oh wow, i know it's been practically beaten to death BUT...

15" MBP with 2.16GHz Core Duo and 120GB harddrive (both standard on 17")-- $2659

17" MBP-- $2599

granted this in the education store, but wow, what a steal...you save $60 by getting an extra 2" of screen size, another USB port, FW800, and an 8x Superdrive.
'

Do you fail to see the 17" is over a pound heavier and almost 7 pounds? People have different needs. Some of them prefer to lug smaller machines around, and lack of FireWire 800 is not the end of the world to them.
 
dferrara said:
Only the 12" G4 remains... it's so lonely... :(

I really wonder what will happen to the 12", will it just disappear when the MB is released? Or will there actually be a small Pro model?
 
Leoff said:
Geeze, some of you people are never, ever going to be satisfied.

Apple comes out with a new product, and I see a large number of you screaming because there's no 13.3" MacBook out yet. Would you rather they release it now with all sorts of bugs and a massive backorder? Or would you like them to take their time, do it right, and then release it?

You're probably the same people who will complain when the MacBook DOES come out and it has crappy video card, as it's expected to have.
And some people just like to complain about people who complain. :rolleyes:
 
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