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Apple Releases Aperture 2.0
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Downloaded the trial. It's very, very cool. Ever since getting my iMac I've been using iPhoto, which is ok with some basic RAW handling but it was always a bit technically lacking compared to what I was used to on the PC (Breezebrowser etc). However the way it worked - flicking through events etc - made me stick with it. Now that Aperture has the same features and is essentially iPhoto for serious photographers it fills the gap nicely, with some truly awesome tweaking options.
My only gripe is that after importing an event from iPhoto I can't easily tell which the original RAW file is and which the tweaked version is (it imports both, as a stack of 2) without relying on judgment. I'm sure there's a way though.
I love the fullscreen mode.
My wallet can expect a sting next month!
If only the feckin' useless TN display in the 20" iMac was actually suitable eh! I'm going to regret that one bigtime for the next 4 years. (When you can convert a photo from "gorgeous sunset" to "mid-day daylight" just by moving the window towards the bottom of the screen, you know it's a bit crap)
My only gripe is that after importing an event from iPhoto I can't easily tell which the original RAW file is and which the tweaked version is (it imports both, as a stack of 2) without relying on judgment. I'm sure there's a way though.
I love the fullscreen mode.
My wallet can expect a sting next month!
If only the feckin' useless TN display in the 20" iMac was actually suitable eh! I'm going to regret that one bigtime for the next 4 years. (When you can convert a photo from "gorgeous sunset" to "mid-day daylight" just by moving the window towards the bottom of the screen, you know it's a bit crap)
But, it (iPhoto) makes a COPY of the image... resulting in filling up your hard drive faster. Aperture applies the changes on top of the photo requiring only a small file that Aperture reads and displays the edits. So Aperture doesn't duplicate your photos and it also never touches the master version. Also, you can make as many variations of the same photo as you want without requiring more disk space.
Again, you find the loupe slow. I don't. What I don't appreciate, however, is suggesting that I am tolerating a poor functioning piece of software, because that simply is not the case. You are spreading misinformation for whatever reason, and it is unnecessary.
I am running Aperture 2 on my MacBook (Black) and it runs fine. It will undoubtedly run even better on my Mac Pro, but it isn't worthless, by any stretch of the imagination, when running on my MacBook.
Downloaded the trial and I'm not hugely impressed. I've recorded some feedback for Apple which I will share here. Obviously I'm not a pro user so maybe I'm not in the actual market for the app. Just wanted a step up from iPhoto for JPEGs. Anyway, here's my first impressions (as addressed to Apple, sorry it sounds so negative):
Why does your latest piece of software have window appearance that looks more like Tiger? What's with the nasty rounded corners? The small windows look even sillier. I thought Leopard was supposed to bring a consistent look...
Why does the magnification of the loupe change randomly? Might it also be useful if it appeared where the cursor is? Neither of the two options is really all that intuitive.
Import: I can't select a whole iPhoto library, only one event at a time.
iPhoto browser: You can't select multiple events if you need to scroll the window - any selection is lost when you attempt to scroll.
I've imported all the events from an iPhoto library. How do I get the events to appear in the new project in chronological order. They seem to be in alphabetical order at the moment.
Please could you make it so that my computer is still useable while Aperture is working on 'previews' in the background. Everything runs so slowly on a MBP 2GB C2D, even just using the finder or typing in Mail becomes problematic.
Ultimately I'm finding Aperture a disappointment. I like the advanced editing features - a step up from iPhoto. But where's the speed? With the FCP interface being so much faster than iMovie HD I thought you might achieve something similar here. Switching between projects and between the other inspector tabs is just sluggish - more so than any application that I currently use. I wanted to use Aperture to manage JPEGs mainly (I imported about 5000) but honestly iPhoto is so much faster. Perhaps you could put the loupe in iPhoto! (Also when using iPhoto, switching to other applications doesn't slow to a crawl, even on a fresh boot. When Aperture is simply open all other applications seem to go into slow motion).
The main reason I wanted to look into Aperture was to get round the annoying limitation of having only one iPhoto library 'live' at any one time. Aperture sort of gets round this by allowing you to have folders full of projects. Shame you haven't implemented something like the 'events' in iPhoto - now that I've learned how to navigate them in the media browser I'm beginning to like them. You'd think projects could be shown in the same way as events?
Why does your latest piece of software have window appearance that looks more like Tiger? What's with the nasty rounded corners? The small windows look even sillier. I thought Leopard was supposed to bring a consistent look...
Why does the magnification of the loupe change randomly? Might it also be useful if it appeared where the cursor is? Neither of the two options is really all that intuitive.
Import: I can't select a whole iPhoto library, only one event at a time.
iPhoto browser: You can't select multiple events if you need to scroll the window - any selection is lost when you attempt to scroll.
I've imported all the events from an iPhoto library. How do I get the events to appear in the new project in chronological order. They seem to be in alphabetical order at the moment.
Please could you make it so that my computer is still useable while Aperture is working on 'previews' in the background. Everything runs so slowly on a MBP 2GB C2D, even just using the finder or typing in Mail becomes problematic.
Ultimately I'm finding Aperture a disappointment. I like the advanced editing features - a step up from iPhoto. But where's the speed? With the FCP interface being so much faster than iMovie HD I thought you might achieve something similar here. Switching between projects and between the other inspector tabs is just sluggish - more so than any application that I currently use. I wanted to use Aperture to manage JPEGs mainly (I imported about 5000) but honestly iPhoto is so much faster. Perhaps you could put the loupe in iPhoto! (Also when using iPhoto, switching to other applications doesn't slow to a crawl, even on a fresh boot. When Aperture is simply open all other applications seem to go into slow motion).
The main reason I wanted to look into Aperture was to get round the annoying limitation of having only one iPhoto library 'live' at any one time. Aperture sort of gets round this by allowing you to have folders full of projects. Shame you haven't implemented something like the 'events' in iPhoto - now that I've learned how to navigate them in the media browser I'm beginning to like them. You'd think projects could be shown in the same way as events?
The look is the only thing that bugs me. Finally with Leopard they standardised the visual styles... and now they come up with yet another 
The look is the only thing that bugs me. Finally with Leopard they standardised the visual styles... and now they come up with yet another
They (Apple) didn't just come up with yet another look. Aperture is part of the pro series of applications from Apple, and all of them use the same visual stylings. For example, my copy of Final Cut Studio 2 and Logic Studio both look like Aperture in terms of styling.
Heck, even Garage Band doesn't follow the standardized look of Mac OS X per Apple's own rules, but these differences in styles are not new with Aperture 2.
Yes, that was what I thought too. Take a look at Soundtrack Pro. Quite the difference.
Fair enough. I hope I didn't come across sounding too rash as I didn't mean to. That being said, it took me a little while to get used to the pro applications look, but now that I have been using several of these apps for a little bit now, I am more comfortable with the gray coloring and the micro-sized font.
I have an interesting story that I thought I would post here as a matter of interest to higher ed students/faculty interested in getting Aperture. First off, you might be able to get your educational copy from your University for much cheaper (mine offers version 1.5 for $99).
However, I am about to finish my MS this year, and I was kind of interested in getting the retail version. Anyway, because I am kind of retarded, I initially bought the academic version from Apple for $179. After thinking about it, I thought that was kind of retarded. I could get the fully upgradeable retail version for just another $20. Then Aperture 3.0 might be only $99 for the upgrade rather than having to pay full price.
So, I received my Academic version today, and called them up to return it. I was on the phone with the Apple rep, and she asked me why I was returning it, and so I told her that I had decided a little late in the game that I wanted the Retail version so I could upgrade for cheaper when 3.0 comes out. She said that was understandable, and then she told me that you can actually get the Higer Education discount on the Full Retail version of Aperture. There doesn't appear to be a way to do this on the internet, but you could presumably do it in the Apple Store, and you can call and place your order and ask for it.
That really sounds like a glitch in the system. Anyway, I personally was going to cancel my order and order through Amazon for $189 with free shipping and no tax, but the Apple Store price with tax was about the same, so I went ahead and had her put me in for the retail version from Apple. And I am glad that I did--they already shipped it (I ordered it at like 4:00 PM this afternoon, so that's awesome). The sales rep told me the estimated arrival was at the end of next week, but the FedEx delivery estimate is now Tuesday the 19th.
So, if you want Aperture 2 (Full Retail) for $20 off, you can call them up and ask for the Higher Ed. discount on the retail version. And you will probably get it much sooner than from Amazon, who appear to be out of stock.
However, I am about to finish my MS this year, and I was kind of interested in getting the retail version. Anyway, because I am kind of retarded, I initially bought the academic version from Apple for $179. After thinking about it, I thought that was kind of retarded. I could get the fully upgradeable retail version for just another $20. Then Aperture 3.0 might be only $99 for the upgrade rather than having to pay full price.
So, I received my Academic version today, and called them up to return it. I was on the phone with the Apple rep, and she asked me why I was returning it, and so I told her that I had decided a little late in the game that I wanted the Retail version so I could upgrade for cheaper when 3.0 comes out. She said that was understandable, and then she told me that you can actually get the Higer Education discount on the Full Retail version of Aperture. There doesn't appear to be a way to do this on the internet, but you could presumably do it in the Apple Store, and you can call and place your order and ask for it.
That really sounds like a glitch in the system. Anyway, I personally was going to cancel my order and order through Amazon for $189 with free shipping and no tax, but the Apple Store price with tax was about the same, so I went ahead and had her put me in for the retail version from Apple. And I am glad that I did--they already shipped it (I ordered it at like 4:00 PM this afternoon, so that's awesome). The sales rep told me the estimated arrival was at the end of next week, but the FedEx delivery estimate is now Tuesday the 19th.
So, if you want Aperture 2 (Full Retail) for $20 off, you can call them up and ask for the Higher Ed. discount on the retail version. And you will probably get it much sooner than from Amazon, who appear to be out of stock.
I get a discount because of my job, and my friend gets a discount because he is a teacher. This has always been the case, and we both end up with the full version (not the academic version) of the software that we buy.
Apple offers some huge discounts for certain jobs and job types, but you have to ask for the discounts when you buy. The sales people at the store have several pages of discount codes that they can look at to find the discounts applicable to your job. Just ask for it when you are buying.
That was probably me, though I'm not sure if it was in this thread or elsewhere. It was edu institutional, not individual -- maybe that is why you can't find it.
Slow, buggy. Not much else to say about this upgrage. Hard for a professional to keep a real workflow. I tried the software with a 1200 photos project, but it was a disaster. In order to be able to deliver to the client I had to start over on Adobe Lightroom.
So many small problems, and one huge problem: The previews are blurred. Also everything runs way too slow on my Macbook Pro.
Don't they have quality control at Aperture? What do they use, the same people from their Interlaced IMovie?
Why can't Apple produce software that "just work" like Adobe on Windows?
So many small problems, and one huge problem: The previews are blurred. Also everything runs way too slow on my Macbook Pro.
Don't they have quality control at Aperture? What do they use, the same people from their Interlaced IMovie?
Why can't Apple produce software that "just work" like Adobe on Windows?
What kind of pictures did you import?
I have projects with 2000 pictures and my system is blazing fast.
Thanks for the reply, glad to know there is hope for a solution. Those are 12MP Jpegs from the Canon 5D. The computer is a Macbook Pro Core Duo with 2Gb Ram and 256Mb graphics.
Obviously I have less photos loaded than you do and you don't seem to experience speed problems. In previewing the photos, do you lose sharpness?
I have a similar machine to yours--a C2D 2.33GHz, 3GB RAM, 256MB Graphics, blah... see my sig for the rest
. I work with 8MP RAW images which are significantly larger than 12MP JPGs. I have never had issues with speed or stability, but I did have to make a new Library to fix the problem where the "built-in smart albums" (i.e. "Rejected," "* or better," "*****", etc. under the "Library" tree) didn't show up right (they were displaying as "010 - EntireLibrary," etc. I tried all kinds of stuff to fix this, including messing with the sqlite3 aperture database, to no avail. I had to move my projects to a new Library to get them working properly, and then I had to manually recreate all my smart albums, because Apple doesn't let you move Smart Albums from Library to Library, which is royally stupid for $200 software. Anyway, other than that nuisance, which I have now dealt with, things are going great. It's fast, loads pretty quick--I will say that previews show up blurry when it is in "full" mode. It doesn't render the large-resolution preview while it's trying to load the full image with edits. I think they blur it on purpose in this mode, so you know that the image is not ready yet. I would suggest you try the new "Quick Preview" mode (shortcut is P). In that mode it loads the previews up. A lot of times the colors of the preview can be off, but the images have fine resolution. On my system, browsing in Quick Preview has no delay, and browsing in regular mode is fine. Not blazing, but also not unpleasant.