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Update from 3.2 led to app crash on start-up

on both Lion and Snow Leopard for me. I had to trash the app from Programs and reinstall completely using the App Store.

Possibly related App Store limitation: it doesn't separate different start-up volumes on one drive (one SL, the other Lion, each with its own Programs folder).
 
Maybe it's you, or your library...

Great to see issues fixed, but I am still amazed at how absolutely inefficient Aperture is.

Incredibly slow. Yes. I have a large library. Yes, the images are large. But, isn't this the professional-level library management tool?

The issue I have here is that I know it is possible to do much better. Software can (and does) scale much better - and it isn't the hardware I'm running on :).

I think performance, scalability, and responsiveness is the next thing Apple needs to focus on here.

Have no clue what you are running A3 on, or how much ram you have, and where your library is stored, so I will leave that alone (but could be obvious culprits). I have a large library, of large images and recently just topped the 100,0000 mark on my main library.

Previously I was running A3 on an iMac 24" with 3gb of ram, or thereabouts. It ran fine, not amazingly, but adequate. Last year I upgraded to a 27" iMac with 16gb ram. I also moved the image library to the internal hard drive. Obviously the more ram the better, so max it out. It isn't that expensive when you buy it third party from Crucial or elsewhere.

About a month ago, I noticed A3 starting to creep, and bog down a bit. If I made an album with selections it would lag and stall for increasingly longer bits of time. After I hit the 3-4 minutes for the album to render, I knew there were issues. Faces & Places were off, so I knew it wasn't that.

First off, I made sure I backed up the library before I started mucking about. Then I repaired my permissions with Disk Utility.

Then using Aperture's First Aid tools, I repaired the Aperture library Permissions, followed by a Repair of the Database. (see http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3805).

I also, deleted and rebuilt my thumbnails (see here: http://brettgrossphotography.com/2008/04/24/aperture-library-slimming-the-size).

Or you can easily do it by "You can easily do the same thing for aperture 3 by right clicking the library, select open package contents, then delete the thumbnail folder within the package.... no terminal commands required. Then the next time you open the library, aperture will rebuild thumbnails for any photos still in the library." (https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/911505/).

I also deleted my previews & regenerated new ones... which took a few clicks, and a bit of time to generate the new ones (see below).

Click for large view - Uploaded with Skitch

and then to generate new ones...
Click for large view - Uploaded with Skitch
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There is a good deal of discussion about whether using Aperture's First Aid fixes the previews & thumbnails. I have no idea, however, just doing the First Aid didn't solve my issue, and so continued on with the other steps. I suspect that choice number three (Rebuild Database) would do all of it, by is a LAST choice for good reason, and avoided in my case.

All of this took a good bit of time to accomplish, about half a day or six hours. However, the end result was a resounding success for me. A3 was as zippy as the first day I installed it on my 27" iMac. I could create albums in seconds, and scrolling about was a breeze again, with nary a beach ball in sight. A I would also point out, if you can break up your library into smaller ones, do so. I have three now, and switching between them is a click away. Aperture is an amazing, mostly rock solid PROFESSIONAL app for me. I use it every single day, and have shifted vast chunks of my workflow away from Photoshop (all for the better) .

Cheers & good luck,
Michael
 
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"....in the grand scheme, it's actually positive"

How so?

The business you're in today can be reinvented tomorrow. Everyone must reinvent themselves. Tech is changing. Even specialized, niche markets. There is no niche market that is today immune from the sea-changes that take place in the wider consumer markets. It all filters and branches outward to niche segments.

And those niche segments are also changing, and are being integrated with the wider consumer segments. The average person a few years ago would be hard-pressed to do any advanced level of photo-editing, especially without purchasing ridiculously expensive software and having to put up with serious learning curves.

Now, in the span of only a few years, look at the kind of power that has been put into Joe Average's hands. It's incredible. You can even do, with some iOS apps (of all things!), things that were a few years ago only possible with much more complex and expensive software.

The line between "Pro" and "Consumer" has been blurred to an unprecedented degree. Hence, today we have what is known as the "Prosumer." And these Prosumers are growing in number and strength every day. One of the companies serving them is Apple.

The Pro market is dwindling. The Prosumer market is expanding rapidly. The skills that at one point were hard-earned and rare (Pro skills) are being steadily, slowly but surely, acquired by even average users with a little time and curiosity. As tech becomes much more accessible to Joe Average, those skills that were once prized in the industry will eventually become commonplace. What took a lot of skill yesterday can be easily accomplished and on a larger scale today, due to increased exposure and access that Joe Average, and for that matter you and I, are enjoying. It all filters down due to increased access.

The "Pro" market is not the same market that Apple allegedly turned their back on years ago. It has changed. And it is no longer a market that can sustain anyone exclusively. At all. Especially with the Rise of the Prosumer. The traditional "Pro" market is slowly dying, but also changing. It is becoming integrated with the consumer market, and Prosumers are making it happen.

In time there will be no specialized, niche markets at all in consumer tech, and that includes the "Pro" segment. We will all have access to them, with better tools that will be far easier to use.
 
Activity Monitor

Slowww......
OSX 10.7.2 Lion, 2GHZ Intel Core 2 duo, 4gm 667 mhz ram.

Aperture 3.21, 18gb library size

According to activity monitor:
Virtual Memory Usage: 1.72 gb
Real Memory Usage 1.1 gb
82% CPU

No other app even comes close to these numbers

Unable to shut it down so all other running apps have slowed to a crawl. I am barely able to type this message and am afraid to force quit it for fear of data corruption. It is currently stuck on importing but is always slow. Hard drive is churning like crazy.

Troubleshooting, so far:
Faces is disabled. I'll try the 32 bit idea and disable spotlight next. I'll also try disabling iCloud in case that is where it is trying to import from.

I'll post new numbers as I play..
 
Results After 32 bit

I finally had to force-quit Aperture after it locked up on importing ... No ill effects on the data.

Switching to 32 bit mode did not make any difference, but what did help was tossing the aperture .plist file (located in /library/preferences/).

Now, in 32 bit mode, after trashing the plist:
Virtual memory: 646mb, real memory: 738mb, cpu 40%-103%

Switching back to 64 bit mode, same numbers except cpu is 20-40%.

64 bit should always perform better since the "highway" is wider. Programs running in 32 bit mode are unable to address more than 4GB of Ram. That's all I have in my case, but those of you with more than this lose that benefit if you run in 32bit.

I have faces turned off in both cases.

Seems better, but time will tell... An option for some is Adobe Bridge / Photoshop but these don't play with iCloud and iPhones.

Kevin
 
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I just upgraded to 8GB RAM on my Mid 2009 MBP and i opened Aperture 3.2.1 to modify some photos. Aperture was using 1GB of ram. As soon as i zoomed in to 100%, i got 3GB used by aperture and also 59MB of swap file used on my HD! And fortunatly i have these 8GB of RAM!!
 
menu bar appear

after switching desktop and back to aperture in fullscreen mode the menu bar has appear…I know it's wrong…because previous version didn't do that…
 
Some interesting posts by smart people, but really these cures should not be necessary. Apple needs to fix the issue, not to force people to spend countless hours messing around with scary stuff buried deep in the system.
 
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