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Apple Releases Aperture

"minimum system requirements"
already posted....

Doesn't make it sound anywhere near as bad as "2Ghz G5 only"...

I think this app is a great idea. And while we are on the subject, I would like to see the next OS update, 10.4.3 or thatever, replace the brushed metal appearance with the one found in iTunes, other than that I have no complaints with there being other app interfaces out there.

EDIT: someone beat me to posting the minimum specs
 
Griffindor73 said:
Requires dual 2.0 Ghz or faster!!!- so, they are going to sell loads of this program then...
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Does not. Minimum system requirements show even a 1.8ghz iMac will run it if it has 1gb+ RAM and Radeon 9600 or better - geforce 5200 won't do.
 
macjunkie82 said:
Has anybody else noticed that Apple's using Flash on the page for Aperture? They use QuickTime too, but I don't think I've ever seen Apple use Flash on any page. Maybe I'm wrong...

EDIT: Looks like rockman2023 beat me to it while I was typing this.
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EDIT 2: Looks like macjunkie82 beat me to quoting one of us. :D
 
It looks very sweet. I'm not sure why folks seem to thing that it's a competitive app to PS. I don't see it that way at all. Being able to keep multiple versions of a raw file while only having to store it once is huge.
 
Ya know, apple really burns my hide sometime.

So I've got a brand new ibook. G4 1.4 - 1 gig ram etc

I can run programs like motion, final cut pro, dvd studio - etc.

I can edit video and I can edit HD video for sakes

But I can't work with Photographs? A program I need more than I need the video editing stuff?

Come on apple.

You're leaving alot of people in the dark with that program.

(I don't wanna hear how it's a "pro" app either - to me that term doesn't mean squat. - I do all the "pro" things with my ibook just fine)

RAR :mad:
 
beerguy said:
It looks very sweet. I'm not sure why folks seem to thing that it's a competitive app to PS. I don't see it that way at all. Being able to keep multiple versions of a raw file while only having to store it once is huge.
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In one of the demo videos on the site, it shows that Aperture can export a picture you're working on to an "external editor", make changes, and put it right back into the stack for that image. The other editor looked like Photoshop, but they cropped out the menu bar at the top you can't tell. Just looking at it though... This makes it seem that Apple is setting this app up right alongside Photoshop. You keep track of all your thousands of images in Aperture and do minor image editing inside. All the really powerful image manipulation they leave to Photoshop. Smart plan if you ask me. :D
 
bitfactory said:
It's a Pro app - the 'Pros' have the equipment - or will upgrade shortly to meet the requirements.

This isn't for you and your momma.
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My momma just ordered a new Quad Core G5. :p
 
nagromme said:
I don't know if anyone REALLY believed Apple would try to kill Photoshop. Happily they did not :) This app meets a specific need that Photoshop didn't meet.
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But, it does open a door for Apple to build upon if Adobe does not port over quickly. JMO
 
Video card requirements are pretty steep. I wonder if RAW conversions are handled by the GPU.
 
Object-X said:
Look at this picture. It says it all. A Quad G5 with dual 30" displays and Aperature. If you are a professional photographer that works with digital how could you resist that setup? All it takes is money.
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HA! Except a professional photographer would NEVER use a LCD as their color correction display. They use the LCD to browse, but most pros have a very expensive CRT that has a much better contrast ratio. Even I can tell the difference on a LCD. The contrast just isn't there.
 
As I mentioned in the other thread, this was a really suprising move for Apple. They seem to be getting more aggressive in their new products. Aperture looks sweet on the Web site. I only hope it's not as bad as iPhoto. My biggest complaint is that they have set the price tag and requirements way too high. To use this program you basically have to buy a new machine. And for a program to complement Photoshop, it shouldn't cost as much Photoshop. Portfolio, if I'm correct is only around $300 (unless you buy the server version). It will be interesting to see if this catches on, then maybe we'll get an Aperture Express, like Final Cut Express.

I too found the Web page suprising. It is done in flash as far as I can tell and actually it doesn't display right on OS 9 browsers, you have to stretch the window way out to get the text. Maybe they are expirementing with new Web designs.
 
ajshades said:
Ya know, apple really burns my hide sometime.

So I've got a brand new ibook. G4 1.4 - 1 gig ram etc

I can run programs like motion, final cut pro, dvd studio - etc.

......
RAR :mad:
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Well if you are running Motion 2 (which according to the specs requires a Mobility 9600 rather than a 9550 as fitted to your new iBook) then you might be able to run Aperture. Why don't you buy it and try it?
 
ajshades said:
Ya know, apple really burns my hide sometime.

So I've got a brand new ibook. G4 1.4 - 1 gig ram etc

I can run programs like motion, final cut pro, dvd studio - etc.

I can edit video and I can edit HD video for sakes

But I can't work with Photographs? A program I need more than I need the video editing stuff?

Come on apple.

You're leaving alot of people in the dark with that program.

(I don't wanna hear how it's a "pro" app either - to me that term doesn't mean squat. - I do all the "pro" things with my ibook just fine)

RAR :mad:
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Do you really aim to do critical photo comparisons (culling, for example), color matching and image manipulation on an iBook? While I think the 12" iBook screen may be better than the 12" PB screen (yes, we have one of each at home) ....the 12" screens do not compare (for example) to the 15" and 17" screens. And the Cinema Screens (or one of the Eizos or LaCie LCDs) are even better. But frankly, many Pros still prefer CRTs for serious photo work. LCDs are making inroads, but at the $3000 - 5000 price points.

I cannot imagine ever doing anything critical to an important photo on one of the 12" screens and I know I am not alone in this. This is a Pro App and it shows.

JT
 
No

Griffindor73 said:
Requires dual 2.0 Ghz or faster!!!- so, they are going to sell loads of this program then...
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No, it requires a single G5 of 1.8 GHz or faster. You are looking at "recommended."
 
physics_gopher said:
In one of the demo videos on the site, it shows that Aperture can export a picture you're working on to an "external editor", make changes, and put it right back into the stack for that image. The other editor looked like Photoshop, but they cropped out the menu bar at the top you can't tell. Just looking at it though... This makes it seem that Apple is setting this app up right alongside Photoshop. You keep track of all your thousands of images in Aperture and do minor image editing inside. All the really powerful image manipulation they leave to Photoshop. Smart plan if you ask me. :D
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This program is more powerful for image manipulation than photoshop. What it's lacking are some of the tools for selecting areas of the image like the magic wand, lasso, and layers. But that sort of stuff is hardly used by pros. These newer apps do it by selecting areas 99% of the time by critera with levels and blacks, whites, midtones, etc.

Adobe has been trying to get into this market with photoshop. There's no reason they couldn't. But for some reason, they can't. I fully believe that Apple is simply a better software developer. Hands down. I mean, Adobe and Macromedia had to merge to have a full software lineup. My guess is that you'll see Adobe Dreamweaver and GoLive will go away. But does anyone out there not believe that Apple could whip out a web design program in the next 6 months that makes Dreamweaver look like an antiquated piece of crap? They could. Who has this company sold it's soul to and for how much I ask?
 
This is a stingin' App! Wow it looks the biZ! I've just got into photography too and this turns up! Shame about the RRP. Its too much for meh right now.
 
Truffy said:
I'm obviously missing something. What does it offer that Photoshop CS2 and Bridge don't?
:confused:
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Many things, including robust cataloging, a *true* lightbox for comparing, digital loupe ...and presumably speed.

Have you ever tried to scan through 100 shots trying to identify the best using Adobe's Bridge? Brutal. And it's not what Bridge was designed for.

This program fits into a great niche.

JT
 
Man I wanted to buy this as soon as I saw it but with a recommended 2 ghz G5 I'm gonna have to at least hold off for some speed tests and reviews. Everything on this is amazing and better than what I could immagine. But if the thing is gonna run like a gimped turtle on my 1.5 ghz Powerbook no thanks.

Those Intel machines can't come soon enough. :(
 
kiwi-in-uk said:
Well if you are running Motion 2 (which according to the specs requires a Mobility 9600 rather than a 9550 as fitted to your new iBook) then you might be able to run Aperture. Why don't you buy it and try it?
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Actually yes I am running Motion 2, and it runs great actually, rarely does it bog down, except maybe when you've got tons of particles and replicators run on the same frame then the FPS does go down, but to my experience no video requires such nonsence of multiple effects.

I would love to buy it and try it but for $250 edu discount that is very steap esp if I can't run it.


Again - a note on the "pro" line.

I can edit video, burn dvd's but I can't work with photos?

Apple was not thinking exactly straight on the market they are trying to send this product to.

I know of very, very, very few photographers (graphic designers to) that run those kinds of systems AND would intersted in a program like that.

Come on apple..
 
I've just got a Canon EOS 350d (Rebel XT) and have photoshop. I am a little strapped for cash at the moment so am stuck with a 1Ghz Powerbook so no Aperture for me. But when the intels come out I'm getting this app. It looks incredible and offers the ingredient that Photoshop is missing.
These 2 apps combined and a decent camera and wow.

But I am sad cos I want a QUAD!
 
bretm said:
Adobe has been trying to get into this market with photoshop. There's no reason they couldn't. But for some reason, they can't.
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Right on. Photoshop has been getting more and more bloated on features and moving away from actual photo editing. They seem more concerned on piling all their applications into one.
bretm said:
But does anyone out there not believe that Apple could whip out a web design program in the next 6 months that makes Dreamweaver look like an antiquated piece of crap? They could.
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But they need to come out with a spreadsheet and decent word processor first, so they can finally give us an alternative to Microsoft Office...
 
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