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Apple Releases Apple TV 2.3 Software Update

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Just to thank for reporting not to upgrade Apple TV since Boxee would not work. Last night I was debating whether taking the update. Glad I did not. Apple TV is becoming more useful because of Boxee than because of iTunes movies.
 
TuckBodi said:
Why don't you just terminal in and do a sudo reboot? Most times for me, even if the ATV looks like it's frozen, I can still log in and run the reboot command.
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As far as I know, there is no patchstick for 2.3 yet, and he never mentioned having ssh enabled. So I'm assuming that's not an option for him.

My ATV locks up regularly, and when i don't feel like rebooting politely via ssh, i too love to watch the sparks fly.
 
cmendill said:
Increasingly I find myself bewildered by the odd choices apple makes when updating their software. Like when ATV 2 came out and they decided people no longer needed to organize their tv shows by season.

How does a decision like this get made? Really? You would have to try to make a decision this bone-headed. The mind reels.

The ATV is the only Apple product that really falls short of what is possible.

At least they are still updating it.
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It would seem like they have some College interns doing the work...

Knowing Apple, you should've expected the thing would be crippled in some way or another in order to get you hooked then keep you happy with the occassional update.

joemama said:
Well, no one mentioned it yet so I feel obliged to.

Still no DVR which = no sale.

There. Now, we can all discuss how Apple never will add the feature. Enjoy!
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Some folks just don't get it. Would they magically put a BMC connector on it to catch the cable input? It's a streaming device meant to open up the Apple's little world of iTunes to your TV. If you want a good DVR solution, go Tivo and get the software to send it to your Mac.

Seriously, another useless post.

Damn, I just got my invite to Boxee and was about to try it out. I guess I'll wait a few days then.
 
This is horrible.

The update sounds fantastic (learning remote function alone is awesome, plus hd movie flags, etc...), but if it brings up new problems playing back DD5.1 that's a deal breaker.

Are these problems isolated only to HB or VH encoded files as well? Is it simply looking at the meta field and therefore this can be bypassed? Is there anywhere people are talking about this bug/feature in more depth and detail? Why is this only mentioned by a handful of users?

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OllyW said:
joemama said:
Well, no one mentioned it yet so I feel obliged to.

Still no DVR which = no sale.

There. Now, we can all discuss how Apple never will add the feature. Enjoy!
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How could they add this through a software update? :confused:
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They couldn't. The AppleTV doesn't have any AV inputs. DVR functionality will never come to the AppleTV as we know it. This would require a complete redesign.
 
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They couldn't. The AppleTV doesn't have any AV inputs. DVR functionality will never come to the AppleTV as we know it. This would require a complete redesign.
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It wouldn't require anything more than a USB dongle with the appropriate inputs.
 
Nimiety said:
Are these problems isolated only to HB or VH encoded files as well? Is it simply looking at the meta field and therefore this can be bypassed? Is there anywhere people are talking about this bug/feature in more depth and detail? Why is this only mentioned by a handful of users?

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I'm with you... I don't understand why this isn't a huge deal on the forums? It's essentially my iTunes library broken if I update!
 
saltyzoo said:
Using that logic it could also be a helicopter. It wouldn't require anything more than bolting an engine with rotors on top.
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Yeah, that's it. My idea is realistic (and already doable with EyeTV and software) where yours is completely insane. :rolleyes:
 
skrutzen said:
Yes it does break the HB encodes. I no longer have 5.1 DD. Interestingly enough, when I play my DTS or DD music files, they only show as being 5.0 not 5.1 like they used to be. Audio on my movies are no longer working. The movies play but it's complete silence.
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What??? This is ridiculous. Is Apple breaking this stuff on purpose to keep us buying the content off ITMS?? Broken DD 5.1 passthru is a complete deal breaker, as this basically makes my whole movie library unwatchable. I am staying with 2.2 until this is fixed.

:mad:
 
MacFly123 said:
Why in the world would you ever want to watch something in full screen???
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It's not necessarily to watch TV/movies full screen, it's to have the proper aspect ratio and letterboxing when widescreen material is played back.

I shouldn't have to modify the playback size of every single video I encode to have them displayed properly, and I'm not about to replace my perfectly good $10000 TV because Apple didn't bother to include an aspect ratio setting (which would clearly be a no-brainer for them).
 
JAWWC said:
I'm with you... I don't understand why this isn't a huge deal on the forums? It's essentially my iTunes library broken if I update!
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I know! I check all the headlines before I leave for work in the morning, but I don't catch up on the forums until I get there, so I didn't see this issue until after I left the house.

Why isn't this front page news? Don't most* people rip DVDs to their Apple TVs?

If I'd have hit the snooze button twice instead of three times I would have updated this morning and lost my hundreds of DVD rips. Thank God for the snooze button!

*most=people who have AppleTVs and are reading MacRumors.
 
How can I go back to 2.2?

ALL of my movies have been ripped in 5.1 from Handbreak and they are now useless.
 
Mindflux said:
Yeah, that's it. My idea is realistic (and already doable with EyeTV and software) where yours is completely insane. :rolleyes:
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Hey, I used your logic, so call it insane if you want.....


The point is that adding USB devices to the Apple TV would be neither simple, nor straightforward. It would cause endless support issues, increase testing and development costs, reduce revenue from Apple's online offerings, and provide no additional revenue to Apple. From Apple's point of view it's no different than you buying a DVR on your own anyway with no benefit to them. From their point of view you might as well make it a helicopter. It would make as much sense to them.
 
JW008 said:
I know! I check all the headlines before I leave for work in the morning, but I don't catch up on the forums until I get there, so I didn't see this issue until after I left the house.

Why isn't this front page news? Don't most* people rip DVDs to their Apple TVs?

If I'd have hit the snooze button twice instead of three times I would have updated this morning and lost my hundreds of DVD rips. Thank God for the snooze button!

*most=people who have AppleTVs and are reading MacRumors.
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I dunno, maybe the headline "All you people violating copyright laws DON'T update your apple TVs" didn't seem to fit. :p

It does suck to high heaven though it doesn't shock me.
 
I woke up this morning and saw this thread and was going to update my :apple:TV then, but decided to wait until after work to read reviews. Glad I did, seeing that it disabled 5.1 playback. That is a huge blow to the :apple:TV community, since most rip their own videos. I really hope that either Apple releasing an update soon to fix this, or there is an easy way to fix the file so I don't have to re rip everything again. Even though 2.2 has caused a lot of network and connection problems for my system, I'm sticking with it until this is resolved.
 
saltyzoo said:
Hey, I used your logic, so call it insane if you want.....


The point is that adding USB devices to the Apple TV would be neither simple, nor straightforward. It would cause endless support issues, increase testing and development costs, reduce revenue from Apple's online offerings, and provide no additional revenue to Apple. From Apple's point of view it's no different than you buying a DVR on your own anyway with no benefit to them. From their point of view you might as well make it a helicopter. It would make as much sense to them.
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If you insist. Tivo's only source of revenue aside from initial purchase cost is the cost to download the guide and further development of the software on the boxes in existence. Apple could do the same thing. Since the AppleTV already has a USB port, create a dongle and guide software with DVR capability and charge a flat fee $15/mo for guide updates and added software features. Wallah, instant revenue.

:eek: Imagine that.

How does turning the AppleTV to a helicopter add revenue for Apple?
 
To everyone stating that you no longer receive 5.1 from your Handbrake files...

Do you still get a 5.1 signal on your receiver during the AppleTV startup movie? This file was used by the devs to figure out how the AC3 in MP4 worked in the first place.
 
leave it alone

maybe its best to just leave the appletv alone. its a neat product that has lots of potential. Maybe its best not to try to hack the thing or spend your time ripping dvd's with 3rd party apps. Lets just watch and see where apple takes this thing.
 
saltyzoo said:
I dunno, maybe the headline "All you people violating copyright laws DON'T update your apple TVs" didn't seem to fit. :p

It does suck to high heaven though it doesn't shock me.
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That headline sounds about right to me!:eek: But in all seriousness, even a note about "previously acquired" 5.1 files would be nice. (well, nice for others, it really doesn't do me any good since I already know)

So we're pretty sure this "bug" was purposeful?
 
JW008 said:
That headline sounds about right to me!:eek: But in all seriousness, even a note about "previously acquired" 5.1 files would be nice. (well, nice for others, it really doesn't do me any good since I already know)

So we're pretty sure this "bug" was purposeful?
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How in the world we know if it was purposeful? All we have here is a bunch of conjecture at this point...
 
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