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All of my HD TV shows (from iTunes) have been copying back (sync) to my ATV since the upgrade and ones that had not been re synced won't play (format unplayable). Has the format changed? Anyone else see this?
 
Well, some on the Handbrake forums are saying that it did not break DD. I would stick with devs/mods on Handbrake forum for true confirmation. Dynaflash sometimes posts on these forums and he has been notified per the thread over on HB so he should be looking into it.
 
How hard can it be to make it reliable though?

Installed update this morning. Son starts to watch a film. He comes home this afternoon and resumes watching the film to get the old invalid file format error. So we have to reboot. Try again and after pressing start from beginning we get a "synching with iTunes" thing which seems to last for ages. Let's not even mention the lingering Apple logo or blank menus which also need reboots.

If Apple could just give me a clue where to start to give me the best chance of having a reliable ATV then that would be progress.

The product has such potential, but just seems to be deeply flawed.
 
Programming Remotes w/2.3 Update

Hey Everyone-

I'm curious.... How people are programming 3rd party remotes to work with AppleTV, and does this include cable tv remotes....?

Also, are we able to control the volume on our AppleTV's with our little white remotes?


I haven't seen any postings on either. Thanks!! :D
 
It definitely doesn't break all Handbrake encodes. I just played a file I made a long time ago and I'm getting surround sound (my receiver lights up with DD5.1 and I can hear audio in the rear speakers).
 
Hey Everyone-

I'm curious.... How people are programming 3rd party remotes to work with AppleTV, and does this include cable tv remotes....?

Also, are we able to control the volume on our AppleTV's with our little white remotes?


I haven't seen any postings on either. Thanks!! :D

After selecting the Remotes menu under Settings, there is a new line in the menu to Learn Remote.

tv then asks you one by one to press and hold the button, corresponding to the function highlighted on the screen. You get visual feedback when you're pressing a button.

tv will recognize any IR remote this way. It's plain brilliant and done so simply.
 
So, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but after reading these forums and the handbrake forums it's looking like if you ripped with AC3+AAC you have 5.1, but if you only ripped AC3, you do not have 5.1. I'm not home and haven't updated. Can someone who has both types of files and updated to 2.3 confirm?
 
So, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but after reading these forums and the handbrake forums it's looking like if you ripped with AC3+AAC you have 5.1, but if you only ripped AC3, you do not have 5.1. I'm not home and haven't updated. Can someone who has both types of files and updated to 2.3 confirm?

This is what it is looking like, thank god I used AAC+AC3 container. I would imagine since HB Devs reverse engineered the startup movie that this is the case. Apple is trying to break as many things as they can without breaking their own movies.
 
Question....

After selecting the Remotes menu under Settings, there is a new line in the menu to Learn Remote.

tv then asks you one by one to press and hold the button, corresponding to the function highlighted on the screen. You get visual feedback when you're pressing a button.

tv will recognize any IR remote this way. It's plain brilliant and done so simply.

How the heck do you guys get the Apple symbol?
 
Since they removed the ability to go to standby without menus, any update is moot to me. I most frequently use ATV for music. Since Harmony remotes don't handle the "A,B,C" keys for my DVR well, I've given them up. This means to use the ATV's video, I have to cycle through 8 settings on my TV just to get to view the menus on ATV to put the darn thing to sleep. Now I just keep it unplugged most of the time. It's also crazy that EVERY time I open iTunes it turns the ATV on to sync it. I can't tell you the amount of energy wasted by the ATV being on and spinning with my screen saver for DAYS without me even being aware of it. So, as I said, I keep that electricity vacuum called the ATV unplugged.

I've read that standby usage is around 13 watts and playing video or audio uses 17-19.
 
So, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but after reading these forums and the handbrake forums it's looking like if you ripped with AC3+AAC you have 5.1, but if you only ripped AC3, you do not have 5.1. I'm not home and haven't updated. Can someone who has both types of files and updated to 2.3 confirm?

This is what it is looking like, thank god I used AAC+AC3 container. I would imagine since HB Devs reverse engineered the startup movie that this is the case. Apple is trying to break as many things as they can without breaking their own movies.

Confirmed on the Handbrake forums. http://forum.handbrake.fr/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=7734
BucksSaddler said:
Yep - just done a quick test and created 2 files, one with AC3 only and one with both AAC & AC3. The AC3 only movie had no sound, the one with both tracks played the DD5.1 track.
 
Apple is trying to break as many things as they can without breaking their own movies.

I wonder if this is the case, or if it was just oversight on Apple's part. I can only speak for myself, but I haven't purchased a single movie or TV show from iTMS, and only a handful of music albums back in the day. The reason I bought the ATV was to put my personal DVD collection on it. I suspect the same is true for a lot of other folks. I can't really see Apple purposely trying to sabotage these users, as they would just lose the customer altogether. Better to have people at least buy an ATV than to buy nothing at all. But with Apple, who knows. I love the company, but I question a lot of things it does.
 
I wonder if this is the case, or if it was just oversight on Apple's part. I can only speak for myself, but I haven't purchased a single movie or TV show from iTMS, and only a handful of music albums back in the day. The reason I bought the ATV was to put my personal DVD collection on it. I suspect the same is true for a lot of other folks. I can't really see Apple purposely trying to sabotage these users, as they would just lose the customer altogether. Better to have people at least buy an ATV than to buy nothing at all. But with Apple, who knows. I love the company, but I question a lot of things it does.

Apple doesn't see the ATV hardware as a profit center. They could care less about those using it for their personal collections. The ATV is a portal to their online service. Any other use of the device is ancillary to them.
 
Since they removed the ability to go to standby without menus, any update is moot to me. I most frequently use ATV for music. Since Harmony remotes don't handle the "A,B,C" keys for my DVR well, I've given them up. This means to use the ATV's video, I have to cycle through 8 settings on my TV just to get to view the menus on ATV to put the darn thing to sleep. Now I just keep it unplugged most of the time. It's also crazy that EVERY time I open iTunes it turns the ATV on to sync it. I can't tell you the amount of energy wasted by the ATV being on and spinning with my screen saver for DAYS without me even being aware of it. So, as I said, I keep that electricity vacuum called the ATV unplugged.

Can you not hold the Play button down for 5 seconds and it sleep? That's what I do (albeit I'm still on 2.1).
 
As far as I know, there is no patchstick for 2.3 yet, and he never mentioned having ssh enabled. So I'm assuming that's not an option for him.

My ATV locks up regularly, and when i don't feel like rebooting politely via ssh, i too love to watch the sparks fly.

"(I've had to reset it about 2 dozen times in the past year like this)"

That's what I was referring to....
 
Works fine for me.

Glad to see they've put in a volume control for music - but it is disappointing that it doesn't apply to movies. They need to size down the volume display too, especially if this was at some point added to movies.

I have yet to see if this works over optical, but I see no reason why it shouldn't.
 
Apple doesn't see the ATV hardware as a profit center. They could care less about those using it for their personal collections. The ATV is a portal to their online service. Any other use of the device is ancillary to them.

I understand this. But I'm just saying that I highly doubt that, if say Apple were to break 5.1 completely for people who did their own encodes, many people would suddenly start buying the crappy stereo SD movie offerings the iTMS has.

Oftentimes, if people can't have it their way, they choose not to have it at all.
 
Apple doesn't see the ATV hardware as a profit center. They could care less about those using it for their personal collections. The ATV is a portal to their online service. Any other use of the device is ancillary to them.

Dude you're killin' me. They don't see the hardware as a profit center? Ridiculous. It's called Apple TV, not iTunes Storefront. I'd venture to say the majority of media played back thru the Apple TV is not from the iTunes store. Especially not with Boxee around.

Apple TV is Apple's most crippled device. No DVR, , no 1080p, no physical media drive, no internet support other than iTunes access. Quit drinking the Kool Aid and realize you're happy with a half assed product. It may do what Apple says it's supposed to, but that ain't much.

To hear all these cheers becasue they put in volume control? Beyond me. Way beyond me. Call me when they make the Apple TV a viable product...
 
Dude you're killin' me. They don't see the hardware as a profit center? Ridiculous. It's called Apple TV, not iTunes Storefront. I'd venture to say the majority of media played back thru the Apple TV is not from the iTunes store. Especially not with Boxee around.
I disagree. I think the vast majority of ATV users don't even know about Boxee or Handbrake.

Apple TV is Apple's most crippled device. No DVR, , no 1080p, no physical media drive, no internet support other than iTunes access. Quit drinking the Kool Aid and realize you're happy with a half assed product. It may do what Apple says it's supposed to, but that ain't much.

Who said I was happy with / about it? I certainly didn't. In fact, I'm just realistic about how Apple views the product. I don't like it one bit.
 
Dude you're killin' me. They don't see the hardware as a profit center? Ridiculous. It's called Apple TV, not iTunes Storefront. I'd venture to say the majority of media played back thru the Apple TV is not from the iTunes store. Especially not with Boxee around.

Apple TV is Apple's most crippled device. No DVR, , no 1080p, no physical media drive, no internet support other than iTunes access. Quit drinking the Kool Aid and realize you're happy with a half assed product. It may do what Apple says it's supposed to, but that ain't much.

To hear all these cheers becasue they put in volume control? Beyond me. Way beyond me. Call me when they make the Apple TV a viable product...

Disconnect your phone line. You'll be waiting a long time.
 
I disagree. I think the vast majority of ATV users don't even know about Boxee or Handbrake.

I'd say you're right about Boxee, but not right about HandBrake.

The Apple TV is a hobby, and the majority of users will be using it as a hobby and ripping their DVD's to put onto their Apple TV and HandBrake is the best way to do that.

There is probably only a very small amount of people who solely bought an Apple TV to rent movies and nothing more.
 
There is probably only a very small amount of people who solely bought an Apple TV to rent movies and nothing more.

Perhaps amongst the pioneers... but I'm witness to the fact that friends who come over fall in love with the device and several have already bought one. They use it to display the content they have on their iTunes already and have been getting into purchasing TV shows and renting movies. They almost never delve further into ripping and the sort.

My financial advisor came over one time and asked me how I was playing music on my TV and controlling it with my phone. I pointed at the tv and gave him a quick tour. When I told him it was basically an iPod for your TV, he immediately understood the concept. We had another meeting last week and he told me he had bought one. He's not your type of person to get into ripping DVDs and all that geeky stuff. He simply follows the concept.
 
I'd say you're right about Boxee, but not right about HandBrake.

The Apple TV is a hobby, and the majority of users will be using it as a hobby and ripping their DVD's to put onto their Apple TV and HandBrake is the best way to do that.

There is probably only a very small amount of people who solely bought an Apple TV to rent movies and nothing more.

I'm not even sure he's right about Boxee. Just look at all the attention it has gotten from a bunch of different sites. People are literally begging for invites. The ATV is still a hobbyist's toy, and hobbyists are the ones likely to familiarize themselves with all the latest tricks.

I agree 100% with your last statement, which was what I was getting at earlier. That's why Apple needs to start moving away from the iTMS model. It might work if the offerings were outstanding, but it just doesn't cut it when the movies to buy are crap quality, you can't buy HD movies, and you can get TV shows off the internet or from Netflix.

I understand the studios are a PITA to deal with, but come on Apple, it's time to make the ATV truly shine.
 
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