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I'm going to go ahead and update (I think all of my rips have both AC3 and AAC) but just in case... if I lose audio on my files... there won't be any trouble to downgrade again, will there?

Can someone post instructions?
 
I'm trying to set up my third party remote (DirecTV HR21) after updating to 2.3. It all starts well; I go to Settings -> General -> Remotes -> Learn Remote, but I am having an issue when I am making my Apple TV learn the second key (down arrow); I get the error message "apple tv has already learned this button". It's as if the Apple TV thinks the 'up arrow' and the 'down arrow' on my remote are the same key. I tried several times, to no avail.

Anyone else having this issue?
 
Why don't you just terminal in and do a sudo reboot? Most times for me, even if the ATV looks like it's frozen, I can still log in and run the reboot command.

Excuse me if I'm wrong, but doesn't that imply I have to first hack my AppleTV to support SSH? My AppleTV units are currently unmodified.

Since they removed the ability to go to standby without menus, any update is moot to me. I most frequently use ATV for music. Since Harmony remotes don't handle the "A,B,C" keys for my DVR well, I've given them up. This means to use the ATV's video, I have to cycle through 8 settings on my TV just to get to view the menus on ATV to put the darn thing to sleep. Now I just keep it unplugged most of the time. It's also crazy that EVERY time I open iTunes it turns the ATV on to sync it. I can't tell you the amount of energy wasted by the ATV being on and spinning with my screen saver for DAYS without me even being aware of it. So, as I said, I keep that electricity vacuum called the ATV unplugged.

I would imagine it's the same amount of energy when it's NOT on standby seeing as the AppleTV does NOT spin down the hard drive here when in standby mode. As far as I can tell there is absolutely no difference between standby and doing nothing other than the screensaver USED to keep running (it shuts off automatically after an undisclosed amount of time here in 2.2; I haven't watched 2.3 enough to be sure yet).
 
I'm going to go ahead and update (I think all of my rips have both AC3 and AAC) but just in case... if I lose audio on my files... there won't be any trouble to downgrade again, will there?

Can someone post instructions?

You can always restore to factory settings. But that brings up a question I have. What if you have one of the older units, where a factory reset takes you back to 1.0? Will updating software then take it to 2.3 automatically? Or will it do the intermediate upgrades?
 
You can always restore to factory settings. But that brings up a question I have. What if you have one of the older units, where a factory reset takes you back to 1.0? Will updating software then take it to 2.3 automatically? Or will it do the intermediate upgrades?

That's a great point!!

Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure from 1.0 it would take you right to 2.3.. unless Apple has the updates broken down to where you can install them individually via the usb crack..
 
I'm trying to set up my third party remote (DirecTV HR21) after updating to 2.3. It all starts well; I go to Settings -> General -> Remotes -> Learn Remote, but I am having an issue when I am making my Apple TV learn the second key (down arrow); I get the error message "apple tv has already learned this button". It's as if the Apple TV thinks the 'up arrow' and the 'down arrow' on my remote are the same key. I tried several times, to no avail.

Anyone else having this issue?

I'm having that exact issue - can't get it to learn anything but the first button.
 
Have they taken the update down? I just tried to update and my apple TV does see an update. Maybe they took it down?

Greg
 
I didn't see it mentioned before, and I'm pretty certain it wasn't there before, but now if you apply the show field to movies you can group things together in their own sub menu which is kind of useful for series of films and things where you have the trailer or other extras.
 
The remote control learning thing is something which is really useful for me, being someone who is quite into integration. However, it doesn't work with my BeoLink 1000, which most probably operates outside of the Apple TV IR's functional frequency range...
 
They will want to put their DVD collection onto it at some point too, and as confusing as the HandBrake interface is for the average user, it won't be long until there is an easy and simple way to rip DVD's without having to choose bitrates, decide upon quality % etc (just one preset in 'simple' mode for example, pop in the DVD and it'll come out at the same bitrates as the iTMS content) allowing them to start putting their collection into iTunes.

Awe c'mon Kilamite to be fair, in HB you have to just click on the included AppleTV Preset and voila, no problems. Don't be ridiculous. That preset even survived the change in 2.3 (which I might point out, I don't think VH's did) and is as good of quality as you will get from an sd dvd source.
 
Needs DVD

I know I might be missing the point, but if this thing had a DVD drive (and dare I say Blue Ray) it would sell shedloads more. Until then, it's a lot to pay for the ease of not plugging my MacBook into the TV. Besides, there are only so many inputs on most TVs, mine are all full!
 
5.1 is working for me still........

All my rips were in AC3+AAC. I have a new Onkyo 606 AV receiver. Just went home at lunch in a panic as I upgraded last night and went to bed w/o checking anything.

In short all my AC3+AAC rips have sound and are listed as "Dolby Digital" on the Onkyo screen, have the same listing when the :apple:TV boots up. I may have one of my first rips still that was only done in AC3. I will see if it works at all.

This will teach me to wait a few days once again but that fracking Video Playlist was calling my name saying "you know you want me".......:rolleyes:
 
Awe c'mon Kilamite to be fair, in HB you have to just click on the included AppleTV Preset and voila, no problems. Don't be ridiculous. That preset even survived the change in 2.3 (which I might point out, I don't think VH's did) and is as good of quality as you will get from an sd dvd source.

I know - I'm just saying the selection of options baffles the technological illiterate. If I was to explain how to do that to the likes of my parents, they'd end up clicking on an option they weren't meant to or something.

I haven't had a chance to check if my movies encoded using VisualHub via Apple TV preset work - are you implying they won't? :eek:
 
I haven't had a chance to check if my movies encoded using VisualHub via Apple TV preset work - are you implying they won't? :eek:

I don't think the VisualHub AC3-in-a-mov-container hack survived 2.3. At least that's what I've been reading. Not a VisualHub user, though, so I can't say for sure.
 
I know - I'm just saying the selection of options baffles the technological illiterate. If I was to explain how to do that to the likes of my parents, they'd end up clicking on an option they weren't meant to or something.

Hence the preset which plainly says "AppleTV" ;) ... and best of all it works.
 
I don't think the VisualHub AC3-in-a-mov-container hack survived 2.3. At least that's what I've been reading. Not a VisualHub user, though, so I can't say for sure.

Ahh, I don't have any H.264 encodes in a .mov container.

All the .mp4 files should be fine right?

Hence the preset which plainly says "AppleTV" ;) ... and best of all it works.

Haha yeah I know! But it doesn't hide all the other options that might end up doing something. Just a simple put the disc in, click a big red button, and that's it!
 
Ahh, I don't have any H.264 encodes in a .mov container.

All the .mp4 files should be fine right?



Haha yeah I know! But it doesn't hide all the other options that might end up doing something. Just a simple put the disc in, click a big red button, and that's it!
As far as I remember, VisualHub never allowed for AC3 in MP4.
 
Awe c'mon Kilamite to be fair, in HB you have to just click on the included AppleTV Preset and voila, no problems. Don't be ridiculous. That preset even survived the change in 2.3 (which I might point out, I don't think VH's did) and is as good of quality as you will get from an sd dvd source.

As much as I love Handbrake, and would be completely lost without it, I tend to agree with Kilamite on this one. I understand it, most users on the Macrumors forums and handbrake forums won't have ANY problems with it, but the program in general is VERY advanced. If I sat down someone who was pretty advanced in Excel, Outlook, iTunes, iPhoto, etc. in front of Handbrake, they would most likely be VERY confused.

If you ask me, the program as it is now should be be the "expert mode", and the general mode would essentially involve telling the user to choose the device they want the file to work with, allowing for multiple checks, and telling them to insert the video. Simple as that. Any more complicated and 90% of computer users are lost.

I guess it just depends on the goals of the Handbrake developers. Like I said, it's fine for me... but familiarity with the program is the only reason I can use it as I do now. The learning curve is very steep. If the goal is to get many people using Handbrake, it needs to be simplified considerably.
 
If the goal is to get many people using Handbrake, it needs to be simplified considerably.

To be honest, like most open source software the goal of HB is to be the best video transcoding program it can be, the devs build it for themselves and if others enjoy using it. Then great.

Agreed, most of its interface is designed with the serious video encoder in mind.

I however personally developed the preset system to take the guesswork out of getting an optimal encode for a given purpose, like the atv with one click .

I understand (believe me) that the main window can be intimidating and offers more flexibilty than even most geeks can handle . However, for the point and click crowd that preset drawer that has a setting called "AppleTV" just seems way too obvious. It works great and frankly has to this day withstood all atv updates very well.

Points taken though.

Can't please all of the people all of the time. :) But, we do try.
 
I don't think the issue is with Handbrake, but rather with the way DVDs are authored, encrypted, etc. Want to rip your CD? Toss it in and click a button. Want to rip/encode a DVD? Well, what kind of copy protection does it have? What kind of device do you want it to play on? Subtitles? Surround sound or just stereo? Is the source progressive or interlaced? Telecined? See where I'm going with this?

Video is just more complex than audio alone. But I gotta say, if you can't click on the Universal or ATV preset in Handbrake, then you probably couldn't get your ATV set up in the first place.
 
To be honest, like most open source software the goal of HB is to be the best video transcoding program it can be, the devs build it for themselves and if others enjoy using it. Then great.

Agreed, most of its interface is designed with the serious video encoder in mind.

I however personally developed the preset system to take the guesswork out of getting an optimal encode for a given purpose, like the atv with one click .

I understand (believe me) that the main window can be intimidating and offers more flexibilty than even most geeks can handle . However, for the point and click crowd that preset drawer that has a setting called "AppleTV" just seems way too obvious. It works great and frankly has to this day withstood all atv updates very well.

Points taken though.

Can't please all of the people all of the time. :) But, we do try.

Since you seem to be the go-to guy for this, what's the difference in the presets Television and Apple TV and why the distinction. I'm at work so I can't look at the settings at this moment. If there is documentation on the net, that link would be appreciated... Otherwise I guess I'll just check when I get home.
 
I however personally developed the preset system to take the guesswork out of getting an optimal encode for a given purpose, like the atv with one click .

If you ask me, this is the single best feature of Handbrake. I think without this feature, I probably wouldn't be using it. Thank you, dynaflash, for creating it!!!


I understand (believe me) that the main window can be intimidating and offers more flexibilty than even most geeks can handle . However, for the point and click crowd that preset drawer that has a setting called "AppleTV" just seems way too obvious. It works great and frankly has to this day withstood all atv updates very well.

Points taken though.

Can't please all of the people all of the time. :) But, we do try.

A lot of good stuff here. A lot of wisdom shown with that last statement especially. I think all I'm really saying is that if Handbrake was the 'best video transcoding program' it could be underneath, and also had a quick-n-dirty option for the masses, you could probably make some decent money with this thing as shareware. It's excellent software, and as more and more people start hoarding video as they do now with photos and music... the person who owns the fastest, easiest software to help people build their libraries will have a VERY good thing on their hands.

As things sit now, I'm 100% happy with it. Don't change anything for me. ;)
 
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