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DTphonehome said:
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EDIT: Poor Steve...missed the $13k bounty by only two weeks ; )

Hah! I was thinking the same thing... It's funny, but the hackers were even faster than Apple. In fact, they probably forced Apple to release this sooner than originally planned.
 
tcmcam said:
My hunch is you could make a 3rd partition, format it as FAT and use it as a "data sharing" space that both the MacOS and WinXP could see.

Does this mean that we can't see or access the files that are on the os x partition when running on windows??
 
nostrum said:
It does raise an interesting issue though. If people start using this technology on their Macs, and it becomes quite widespread, why bother writing software for Macs? Could it lead to the death of the Mac software industry and ultimately of OS X?

Which really scares me. I hope Apple know what they are doing here.
 
Wish I had known this a week ago so my Mum could have gone Mac rather than the Dull :(

Also thinking out loud, would a Mac running Windows be at risk from the same viruses at a hardware and BIOS level? Would it simply be a case of not being able to load the Windows partition?

Dan
 
This is simply too cool, not for being some great engineering feat, but because Apple is offering and supporting this feature themselves! I wish my iMac G5 were Intel, then I'd ditch my desktop PC right now. Maybe next year I'll replace my Thinkpad with a MacBook Pro. Visual Studio on a Mac would be awesome!
 
micvog said:
I agree. Look at this paragraph:

More and more people are buying and loving Macs. To make this choice simply irresistible, Apple will include technology in the next major release of Mac OS X, Leopard, that lets you install and run the Windows XP operating system on your Mac. Called Boot Camp (for now), you can download a public beta today.​

Why wouldn't Apple say "dual-boot" instead of "install and run" with Leopard, and why would it be called Boot Camp "for now"? I think this is because Leopard will allow for virtualization, and Boot Camp is merely to test Windows on Mac hardware (drivers, etc.).

I think you're spot on with that observation.
 
iSee said:
Hah! I was thinking the same thing... It's funny, but the hackers were even faster than Apple. In fact, they probably forced Apple to release this sooner than originally planned.

Probably true. They'd rather do it right themselves than have to deal with a bunch of novices destroying their macs.
 
iSee said:
Hah! I was thinking the same thing... It's funny, but the hackers were even faster than Apple. In fact, they probably forced Apple to release this sooner than originally planned.

Nah...this here is easier...this is done Mac style....:cool:
 
WeeManDan said:
Wish I had known this a week ago so my Mum could have gone Mac rather than the Dull :(

Also thinking out loud, would a Mac running Windows be at risk from the same viruses at a hardware and BIOS level? Would it simply be a case of not being able to load the Windows partition?

Dell will let you return it. And I hope that the virus issue will be confined to the win partition!
 
Hah!

Look what Apple wrote on EFI and Bios:

EFI and BIOS
Macs use an ultra-modern industry standard technology called EFI to handle booting. Sadly, Windows XP, and even the upcoming Vista, are stuck in the 1980s with old-fashioned BIOS. But with Boot Camp, the Mac can operate smoothly in both centuries.

Kinda funny they add support to and also slap fun at Microsofts platform.
 
Wow (with caution)

This is amazing and shocking news.

However, I'm a bit concerned regarding the status of OSX.

Perhaps human nature and the overarching Windows use would cause those to use XP and "ignore" Mac OS on the machine?

Yes, this could be a very good thing for Apple -- grab mindshare and sales. But what if... only if... those users utilize the Apple machine to use XP primarily, thus "diluting" the use of OSX? If that occurs and Apple continues with its mainstream strategies... would the OSX eventually suffer?! Would the OSX stop with its continual updates and innovation?!

Double edged sword / OS / scenario...

It's nice to have a choice, but I pray that many users (new and old) discover and continue to use OSX as their primary.

(this argument could be debated, and could be negated with Vista around the corner!)
 
os/2

remember that and what killed it?

Why on earth is anyone going to bother porting an app to OSX :confused: .

Perhaps Dvorak can see into Steve's brain.
 
mark88 said:
No one says you have to connect to the internet while using windows if that's what you're worried about.


The decisions that led to my switch to Apple has nothing to do with the internet. My confidence in Apple's machines is that I never have to worry about the "blue screen of death" that plagues Windows. I think this news is great for those who absolutely need or simply want Windows on the beautiful Mac machines. At the same time it raises alot of concerns about the stability of two different OSs running natively on one machine. No thanks, not for me.
 
Installing now. So far I'm at the partitioning stage, and I've already burned the CD with the drivers.
 
This is great news for Apple but I still think that it gets filed under "be careful what you wish for." The last thing that I want is to have my smooth running Mac OS get screwed up by Windows. Hopefully a partition will keep them separate.

I'm assuming that they only comment on XP (and ignore Vista) because they cannot test it on Vista. Maybe in 2008 when Vista comes out they'll run it...
 
tcmcam said:
the GOOD:


3. It's still Windows, so now I have to worry about Virus Patches, SpyWare, and all that other junk. Just the thought of that junk on my MBP hard drive gives me the willies......

It's not as bad as everyone makes out. Don't use IE, don't double click emails, don't use p2p, use a firewall and a virus checker and you'll be fine :)

FWIW I never run windows update
 
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