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Apple Releases Boot Camp Beta

so useful!!!

OMG this is gonna be so cool!

my family switched nearly a year ago, and macs are pretty cool :p . knew you'd love me saying that. seriously, i've gotta get winxp for my next school, eton, and so i wasn't gonna be able to get a mac. but now... woohay! :D this rules!

winonmac.com (or whatever the address is) suckers!!!! ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

now, I just hope they a) manage to keep covering things up so well like this that we get a macbook, tablet mac, powermac, video-bluetooth ipod all tomorrow and b) they hurry up leopard like hell!
 
I can't believe this...

I am a new mac owner, just bought a G4 mac mini on eBay last month...I am new to the mac world but I have been lurking and reading these boards for years and this is my face right this moment :eek:
 
Rumor-mongering

eva01 said:
hahahah all those people searching forever for a way to install windows and all those countless hours gone to waste by Apple doing it themselves
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My bet is that all that onmac work didn't go to waste. I bet Apple didn't want to do it, for legal reasons (e.g. accusations of reverse-engineering Windows, to figure out how EFI should emulate BIOS?) and decided to wait until someone else had figured it out.

And then bought the solution.
 
10.5 will have virtualization support with Intel VT.
Imagine fast user switching, but with OSes ;)
And it won't be virtualization, but native switching ;)


Ok, back to the topic.
Apple, what about Linux and Solaris!!!!
 
Some features of Macs running XP won't work

Some hardware features don’t work:

The following hardware features are not supported in Windows XP:
• iSight cameras
• the Apple Remote
• the Apple USB Modem
• the keyboard backlighting on MacBook Pro computers
 
Stridder44 said:
So currently Mac OS can read and write to FAT but can only read to NTFS...anyone think this could change with 10.5 perhaps? (apparently FAT can only support up to 32GB while NTFS can support just about anything above that...although I hear NTFS is a better choice). Thoughts?
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if you read the instructions apple posted you would know the answer
 
Molson said:
Some hardware features don’t work:

The following hardware features are not supported in Windows XP:
• iSight cameras
• the Apple Remote
• the Apple USB Modem
• the keyboard backlighting on MacBook Pro computers
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Wonder how long til Apple releases Windows drivers for these?

If they're offically going to support Windows in 10.5, I'm sure they'll have everything working.
 
Molson said:
Some hardware features don’t work:

The following hardware features are not supported in Windows XP:
• iSight cameras
• the Apple Remote
• the Apple USB Modem
• the keyboard backlighting on MacBook Pro computers
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This is only the first release. They may continue to update the beta with new features as it develops, or maybe hold off on the FULL driver package until Leopard.

aristobrat said:
Wonder how long til Apple releases Windows drivers for these?

If they're offically going to support Windows in 10.5, I'm sure they'll have everything working.
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Damn you, Aristobrat! Beat me by mere seconds!
 
that's awesome!

this just makes me want to wait until the day the powerbooks include the new OS.
 
nostrum said:
It does raise an interesting issue though. If people start using this technology on their Macs, and it becomes quite widespread, why bother writing software for Macs? Could it lead to the death of the Mac software industry and ultimately of OS X?
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No, highly doubtful --- totally abandon the user base? Mac users are not used to running out and having to buy a new machine for an OS upgrade. One of the great things about Apple. :)

They are definitely taking a "risk" -- but they are showing that they have confidence in the OS X "experience". I see this as training wheels for switchers. Buy one machine, get to experiment with OS X and all it has to offer, iLife, etc. And then, when you need to, boot over to Win XP. They're betting that over time folks will find fewer reasons to boot over to XP. It's the classic Win -> OS X switcher's experience without having to have two machines.

It certainly worked for me when I bought my iBook 3 years ago "just to play around" --- I'm typing this on the Dual 2.5 G5 I have in my office and My new MBP is on my desk as I prepare it for a business trip.

It works.

JT
 
Dear Apple,

I currently cannot afford an Intel iMac. Please stop doing things like this to further tempt me. I do not need to go into credit card debt. EBay's rules currently state I cannot sell a kidney there. Either get them to change their rules, or please take all the temptation out of your current line of computers (you seem to be doing so well doing so with all the problems with the Macbook Pro... bravo.)

Thank you,

Dave Leblond
 
DavidLeblond said:
Dear Apple,

I currently cannot afford an Intel iMac. Please stop doing things like this to further tempt me. I do not need to go into credit card debt. EBay's rules currently state I cannot sell a kidney there. Either get them to change their rules, or please take all the temptation out of your current line of computers (you seem to be doing so well doing so with all the problems with the Macbook Pro... bravo.)

Thank you,

Dave Leblond
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LMAO!! THat is an all time classic in my book! lol

:D
 
amphi said:
os/2

remember that and what killed it?

Why on earth is anyone going to bother porting an app to OSX :confused: .

Perhaps Dvorak can see into Steve's brain.
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It doesn't automatically mean that because you can run Windows on you Mac that you don't want to use OS X anymore. Basically, there will always be Mac OS X users...maybe now even more :D
 
vlaleb said:
The only safe way to run Windows is in the virtual machine. I'll wait for VirtualPC or use Qemu.
On the second thought, there is no safe way to run Windows. ;)
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What he said.

Id rather have a windowed Windows running (not emulated) so i can kill it if it snaps at me like a starving child.:rolleyes:






I think that this will be neat to watch among "the masses"

When a regular shmoe can dual boot Windows as easily as any Mac software thingy (give it time) then people will finally see with their own eyes that running Windows is crap compared to OSX running on the same machine.
 
Whats in a name

When Apple anounced that OSX 10.5 would be called leapard I thought some cheesy line about using Intel processors would be marketed.
Now the leopard name makes absolute sense, Apple had this planned from the word go.
 
I dont get why people are saying that since it can boot windows.. developers will stop making native mac apps

its great that you can now boot into windows and use apps that are missing from osx.

I believe this will make alot of people switch as its safer.
but i also believe they will see how much better osx runs. and how much safer it is from virus and adware. that they will eventually forget about windows

sort of like classic OS9 mode.. atfirst i used classic then .. i just got rid of it. since osx did everything i needed (except quicken basic for Canadians)

I believe the opposite will happen.

if alot more people switch developers will see that people like osx and will make more software for it.. people will see osx is better and slowly drop windows.
 
200px-Nowai.jpg

No Wai!!!

Wow, all apple competitors should be pooing in their pants. Now I REALLY want a sub 15 inch MacBook or MacBook Pro.
 
nostrum said:
It does raise an interesting issue though. If people start using this technology on their Macs, and it becomes quite widespread, why bother writing software for Macs? Could it lead to the death of the Mac software industry and ultimately of OS X?
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the apple counterattack might be this (from macosrumors.com)

Apple's emphasis in the 10.5 era will be on resurrecting 'Yellow Box for Windows,' a set of Cocoa (and potentially also Carbon) API's for Windows that would allow Universal Binary applications to run on Windows with a mere 150MB software package installation. And best of all, there is no extra work to be done on the developer's part to get fully native, rock-solid stable performance from their Xcode-developed Universal applications on Windows
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