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daneoni said:
PowerBook G5 next tuesday?

I agree with everyone else who has responded to one of these, this is getting frikkin OLD.

Knock it off, its not funny anymore.

SHeesh.
 
daneoni said:
PowerBook G5 next tuesday?

Someone tell Arn/Demis to impose a compulsory 4 week ban on anyone that uses this joke again.

:p :D
 
FlyNolJ said:
You'd think that with a 24 inch screen, they'd replace that ugly ass chin...disgusting. :(

Hey, I love that "ugly ass chin", it makes the iMac look cooler, IMO. Love that Apple logo right in the middle at the bottom.
 
DavidLeblond said:
Just think about how many emails/websites you could view AT ONE TIME on a 24" display. Is that not worth the cost??!? ;)

Damn, Imagine a 16-pane "Spaces" interface on such a huge screen :eek: :eek: :eek:
 
Manic Mouse said:
I hate this "Apple gives us what they want and we like it or lump it" attitude many of you have.

I doesn't MATTER if Apple sees a gap or not. If consumers see one then those are potential Mac customers that are lost.

And they WILL see a gap when they're looking at Conroe PC desktops compared to laptop based iMac's.

Apple, like any company, should be bending over backwards to get every customer they can. Not the other way around.

Why do you want Apple to grow so much? I for one think it's fine where it is. They are making a healthy profit, making innovative hardware and software, and providing great products. The larger they get, the less we'll see of all of this, well except for the profits that will goto the board members.

Keep the mass market out.
 
Chef Medeski said:
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Under Buy options when you spec out a new iMac or Mac Mini.
I see. I was looking at buying them seperately at the Apple store.


Hopefully you can do the same with the MBP.

-Matt
 
Hot damn!

I want that 24" iMac. That might be my next machine, instead of the Mac Pro + 30" ACD I had been planning on.

In any case, I have to recover from the massive camera gear purchases that are about to take place around here.
 
New iMacs?

Apple does realize they have a Special Event to fill next week, right?
 
zap2 said:
Are you looking for speed or being able to upgrade? Because Apple has what your looking for. the iMac is fast, not with Merom its even faster! As for upgrading get a Mac Pro..if it cost to much money get a 2.0Ghz one, and sell one chip, you would make good money.

I think the reason Apple doesn't have a Prosumer Mac because the market is not there. Tons of people buy Tower PCs but never upgrade them, and the people who do often buy high end PCs, or build there own.(I know you want it, and so do a few others but Apple doesn't think there is a big enought market for it)

Apple doesn't have what I'm looking for. The imac is not upgradable, it's not an option for someone who doesn't want AIO, and it's not as fast as it could be. And the mac pro is way overpriced for someone who just wants a reasonably fast machine with some expandability. On the PC side you can get a desktop with expandability for under a grand, apple has no excuse for not making such a machine.

And just because some people don't upgrade towers doesn't mean there's no market for them.

iGary said:
Christ, can we not turn this into another "mini" tower thread?

Pretty please? :)

Nope. Sorry.

whatever said:
MP3 player? What are those. Apple sells a digital music player and heavly promotes AAC. MP3, come on that's so Y2K.

Alright you got me. But mini towers just are so ugly and useless. How about a Cube. Would that satisfy the mini tower people.

Useless? What is a mini tower missing that other macs have that makes it useless? If you're not interested in one that's cool, but quit drinking the kool-aid already.

jholzner said:
I really don't see the ligic in your statement.

That's fine, I really don't see the logic in yours. :rolleyes:

whatever said:
But Apple does not see it to be a gap. Adding another machine will just confuse consumers. Have you been to Dell's website lately.

Apple did try this before. It was called the Cube. A computer that everyone loved, but no one bought. I for one serously looked at it and in the end decided to spend the extra money and get the tower. I assume most other people also went that path. And at the time the iMac or the Mini (which didn't exist) weren't even a option.

Dell has a million models, and their website sucks. Apple would go from two desktops to three. You think the average consumer is so dumb they'd get confused by small/medium/large?

And the cube failed mostly because of pricing. It was a great machine, but way overpriced for what you got (it cost almost as much as the tower!). A minitower could be made extremely cheaply and priced very competitively, which would fare completely differently than the cube did, I think it could be one of apple's biggest sellers, especially to switchers.
 
slffl said:
Why do you want Apple to grow so much? I for one think it's fine where it is. They are making a healthy profit, making innovative hardware and software, and providing great products. The larger they get, the less we'll see of all of this, well except for the profits that will goto the board members.

Keep the mass market out.
I totally agree with this one, amen.
 
Chef Medeski said:
I bet you a BT Might Mouse we won't see a Conroe Mac in the next 4 months.

I'd like to take this bet. For "four months" can we just say on or before January 6, 2007? If apple ships a mac with conroe before that, you buy me a BTMM, otherwise I buy you one when that date passes.

Are you in?
 
Manic Mouse said:
I hate this "Apple gives us what they want and we like it or lump it" attitude many of you have.

I doesn't MATTER if Apple sees a gap or not. If consumers see one then those are potential Mac customers that are lost.

And they WILL see a gap when they're looking at Conroe PC desktops compared to laptop based iMac's.

Apple, like any company, should be bending over backwards to get every customer they can. Not the other way around.
You can't compare the iMac with a Windows tower, you have to compare it with something that has a similar form factor. The iMac is all about the quiet, non-obtrusive all-in one form factor. Combined with OS X, it's the essence of simplicity. That's why it has Merom and not Conroe in it.

Apple may yet introduce a Conroe-based minitower on Sept 12. I suspect the reason the iMacs and Minis were introduced today was to spread out the announcements to keep Apple in the spotlight, and because there is too much else to talk about on Sept 12.

And for those who need a monitor, these iMacs represent great value, IMO.
 
alexf said:
Well, it is the exact same number as one can with an Apple 23" display, as Apple kept it at the same resolution instead of taking advantage of that extra inch. (1900 x 1200) :confused:

Maybe there is a reason most 23"/24" LCD panels are 1900 x1200? Apple doesn't make LCD panels and there are also ideal resolutions for DPI etc....I'm sure it wasn't to short change anyone.
 
MacinDoc said:
You can't compare the iMac with a Windows tower, you have to compare it with something that has a similar form factor. The iMac is all about the quiet, non-obtrusive all-in one form factor. Combined with OS X, it's the essence of simplicity. That's why it has Merom and not Conroe in it.

Apple may yet introduce a Conroe-based minitower on Sept 12. I suspect the reason the iMacs and Minis were introduced today was to spread out the announcements to keep Apple in the spotlight, and because there is too much else to talk about on Sept 12.

And for those who need a monitor, these iMacs represent great value, IMO.

I agree with you.

My point is: What Mac is comparable to a windows tower (the best selling form factor)?

They have a gap in their lineup.

And I gap that I, unfortunately, fall into. :(

I would be so happy if a tower was unveiled on the 12th!
 
MattDell said:
I see. I was looking at buying them seperately at the Apple store.


Hopefully you can do the same with the MBP.

-Matt


It's not $60 for them, it's $60 to UPGRADE to them. You're already paying the price for the regular KB and mouse in the price of the iMac.


On the Mac mini page it's $99 US for the wireless KB and mouse - that's cheaper than buying them separately. Not a bad deal to be honest.
 
Weird timing. Just last weekend I had an extensive discussion with my wife concerning Macs and why I think she'd enjoy having a Mac more than her current Dell machine. Her initial concerns were reduced to preferences that could be turned on or off in the OS, and she opened up to the prospect of having one.

Well, before we knew it, we were over at the local Apple retail store and I was showing her one of the iMacs. In the end, she decided to wait a couple of months and then buy.

Glad she did given the update released yesterday, now she has even more of an incentive to buy. :D
 
milo said:
Dell has a million models, and their website sucks. Apple would go from two desktops to three. You think the average consumer is so dumb they'd get confused by small/medium/large?

This is exactly what apple needs to do. Mac Mini low-end for budget-concious people, Mac (insert enidng here) for the midsumer, and the Mac Pro for the prosumer.

And no, the iMac does not count as a machine for the midsumer. Its not headless, and lots of people would rather have a tower than a... monitor with a built-in computer. I know its odd, but, its the truth. They don't want to have to junk the whole thing if they want to upgrade.
 
sbarton said:
Maybe there is a reason most 23"/24" LCD panels are 1900 x1200? Apple doesn't make LCD panels and there are also ideal resolutions for DPI etc....I'm sure it wasn't to short change anyone.

It's 1920x1200, not 1900x1200. They are all ~100 pixels per inch which is currently considered an optimal density for text and image display. With resolution independence coming in Leopard we will be able to use much higher pixel densities without changing the apparent size of the UI elements.

For example, you could have a 13" widescreen on a MacBook with 1920x1200 resolution but the menu bar, buttons and everything would look the same size but much clearer because there are more pixels in each element. So you'd have the readability of larger UI elements with the ability to play HD content natively.
 
slffl said:
Why do you want Apple to grow so much? I for one think it's fine where it is. They are making a healthy profit, making innovative hardware and software, and providing great products. The larger they get, the less we'll see of all of this, well except for the profits that will goto the board members.

Keep the mass market out.

Well firstly I would like a mid-tower for my own use. As it stands Apple do not offer a machine that suits my needs. I want to buy a Mac, I know how much better OSX is and all that, but they simply don't offer a computer that's acceptable for my usage.

Secondly, you think Apple being more successful would be a bad thing? I really don't get the "Mac snobbery" that makes people write comments like "keep the mass market out".

The more successful Apple are the better for them and the better for us Apple fans.
 
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