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sbarton said:
Nice job by Apple on the 24". Very tempting system.

The 7600GT isn't a bad card at all for gaming. The only thing to rememeber is that it has to push 1900x1200 in those games unless you drop the resolution. I think the 7600GT has a 128 bit memory bus. All in all it should do fine for the games that are availible right now.

Yeah, I almost bought one this morning out of pure excitement, then I stopped myself and realized, "Hey! I'm waiting for the C2D MBP. What the heck do I want a 24" iMac for?" Answer... because I'm insane. The 24" is very tempting.
 
scmacdaddy said:
are the hard drive and processor upgradeable by user (sorry if this has been answered but this is a huge thread)
Yes, but as far as the processor, what's available now is all you can upgrade to (2.33GHz max). The next Core 2 Duo's, ie. the next iMacs, will have a new socket and 800MHz FSB.
 
zwida said:
Seems pretty unlikely that they'll be revving Macs on Tuesday at this point.

Maybe we'll see some action on that front if they ever decide to swallow Elgato.
Not revving, adding. Besides Apple needs to sell some sort of a device where you can watch the movies. Most people prefer to watch movies on their TV over their computer or iPod. You don't want a MacPro next to your TV... (ok you might, but it would be a terrible waste of money)
 
thedonga said:
advantage? cheaper
disadvantage? not as crisp...you are taking something that displayed on a 23" and streching it so it will display on a 24"
Dell does it with the 2405/2407. It's going to have a lower pixel density, is all. Bad from a perspective of having finer detail by providing smaller pixels, good from a perspective of larger pixels are easier to see (until we have full resolution independence) and it's one step closer to the 1:1 (72 DPI) for print work we used to have (also moot once we have resolution independence... more or less).

What /I/ wonder is, how's the quality? Is it going to have any of the problems of the 23" ACD? Is it going to be as nice looking (the previous iMac LCDs don't even compare)? What does this mean for the ACD, are they going to release a 24" update soon?
 
Prom1 said:
Although I applaud the new 24" iMac, I have to say this upgrade is a horrible upgrade.

1) the 17" goes 1.5 years in the paste with video memory to 64MB!! Ridiculous! Just like the previous lineup the memory was at 128MB.

2) with 24" of screen I half expected the top of the line would be bumped to 256MB of video memory.

Well, I think the 17" is kinda geared as the as cheap as we can go model. I think it's a good idea, especially for schools. Look at the price, they did a great job IMO.

256 mb on the 7300 is a waste. More texture ram does not necessarily mean more speed. That card is a decent low-midrange card, but it's going to be busy enough with most modern games and really doesn't have the horsepower to manipulate larger textures. Maybe someone with more 3D knowledge could elaborate.

An then of course 256 is availible on the 24" as a BTO. It would have been nice to see the 7600GT as an option on the 20" as well.
 
Look at the Apple web site

Prom1 said:
...with 24" of screen I half expected the top of the line would be bumped to 256MB of video memory.

It is. Look at the Apple web site. 256MB is an available option for less than $100.

But unless you play 3D games that extra video RAM will go unused. Games use the video ram to cache textures but iWork, iLife and the like have no use for it so for most uses it just adds heat (added fan noise) and to the electric bill.

I doubt many people would buy a $2000 iMac for games. Betterto buy a $400 Xbox.
 
Very nice specs, its everything i ever wanted from my iMac but to bad i already have my Mac Pro.
 
I am pleased Apple finally has offered a decent BTO graphics card option in the iMac. It would have been nice to have the option for the 7600GT in the 20in as well, but you can't win all your battles I guess.

For those of you curious about the 7600GT I have one in my PC, becasue it was $150 cheaper then a decent 7800GT, and I don't regret it. The 7600GT is a great card, I am running games like FEAR, Battle for Middle Earth 2, and Half Life 2 all at close to max settings and the games fly, and look great. So if you plan to bootcamp a 24 incher with a 7600GT you will not be dissapointed. Although Apple's 7600GT may be a little bit different from mine becuase mine was made by MSI and was designed to be overclocked, still its a good card. Although it sucks you have to shell out $2k to even upgrade to it.
 
24" iMac Is A Native HDTV With EyeTV hybrid & Terk TV5 Antennae Both For $200

wigga69uk said:
Sorry if this has been asked before but are the 24"ers High Def?
Sorry if this has been answered but yes. 1920 x 1080 is HD. So you get a perfect native HD picture with 60 pixel bars above and below the image exactly the width of the screen. All you need add is a $150 EyeTV hybrid and a $50 Terk TV5 Antenna and you're good to go.
crazycat said:
Very nice specs, its everything i ever wanted from my iMac but to bad i already have my Mac Pro.
Yeah crazycat, we feel your pain. :)
 
crazycat said:
too bad i already have my Mac Pro.

This has to be the funniest sentence ever. You have a Map Pro dude. I REALLLLY envy you, with your quad-xeon kick-ass-spec-till-you-die-for-good machine :)
 
ehurtley said:
Of course, there could be another cause. It could be that Apple's design somehow limits one slot to only 1 GB. We won't know for sure until someone takes delivery, and tries two (insanely expensive) 2 GB modules. Pricewatch doesn't even list any 2 GB DDR2-667 SO-DIMMs, at any price. CDW lists them at $982 per module...


:eek: jesus... apple memory is cheaper than someone else
 
Intel, nVidia and ATI

I wonder if Intel put any pressure on Apple to move away from ATI to nVidia.

I know Apple has a history of using both, but it seems strange that the iMac 24" designed after AMD bought ATI uses nVidia, but iMacs designed pre AMD-ATI uses ATI. I guess I see conspiracies everywhere :)
 
i'm waiting for a merom macbook and i'm just glad to see that they're not necessarily going to wait until after the rebate deal ends to upgrade their hardware. hopefully they'll stick the merom in the macbooks soon - i told my friend i'd give him my free iPod...
 
I'm having a little problem with the memory. If it has 2 memory slots why is it limited to 3gb and not 4gb? Also to upgrade the 20" or 24" it costs $750 extra for a 2GB memory stick. From what I have seen, 2GB memory sticks are very hard to find and usually priced over $1000. So how is Apple able to offer them at such a good price?

scott.
 
Well, I just ordered my new mac :D Have been waiting on this update for a while. I got the 20" with 2GB of Ram (I noticed they are now shipping the 1GB as 2x512 chips rather than 1x1GB, which means if you want to upgrade later you are wasting RAM) and the upgraded video memory. ETA is 7 days until shipping and then another for delivery. This will be a big step up from my first gen mac mini :D
 
ChrisA said:
I doubt many people would buy a $2000 iMac for games. Betterto buy a $400 Xbox.

Or a $1K PC, god forbid.
Yeah, I'm not buying a mac for games, though I'm sure I will run some games on my MBP when I get it just for kicks. I'm going to keep my PC for awhile since it still plays games pretty well, but it's getting long in the tooth. I'm going to have to get a new gaming PC probably in the next year or too (saving up for my marriage though will unfortunately take priority :) )

And you're right on the console front as well. My Xbox 360 will do me for games for quite awhile even if I don't get a new gaming PC. I'm certainly not even going to attempt to try to get a PC that can handle Crysis though. That game is designed to make people spend buttloads of cash on the latest/greatest PC's. But it does look damn good though.
 
sfwalter said:
I'm having a little problem with the memory. If it has 2 memory slots why is it limited to 3gb and not 4gb? Also to upgrade the 20" or 24" it costs $750 extra for a 2GB memory stick. From what I have seen, 2GB memory sticks are very hard to find and usually priced over $1000. So how is Apple able to offer them at such a good price?

scott.

This seems to be a recurring concern in this thread. I always understood that 64-bit processors coupled with 64-bit OS's and applications would function more efficiently with 4GB of ram. If this is the case, why does apple only offer 3GB of ram for the C2D iMac? Can you stick 2 sticks of 2GB ram in there?
 
I want a BLACK choice!!!
In the mean time, I will wait for a black iMac. I know that there are some stores that can 'paint' them but it would be like a caucasian after a week in Cayman Islands. Will Apple do a black model...
 
Not happy

I have been the proud owner of a 20" Imac for 6 days and am not very happy at this moment in time. Do you think I could return under Apple's 14 returns policy and order a new 24"?

Helto
 
acslater017 said:
i'm waiting for a merom macbook and i'm just glad to see that they're not necessarily going to wait until after the rebate deal ends to upgrade their hardware. hopefully they'll stick the merom in the macbooks soon - i told my friend i'd give him my free iPod...

the merom macbooks might not be eligible for the free ipod. i am reading thats how its working with the new iMacs, at least in the US
 
helto said:
I have been the proud owner of a 20" Imac for 6 days and am not very happy at this moment in time. Do you think I could return under Apple's 14 returns policy and order a new 24"?

Helto

Unless it was BTO, I think you can for a restocking fee.
 
Teddy's said:
I want a BLACK choice!!!
In the mean time, I will wait for a black iMac. I know that there are some stores that can 'paint' them but it would be like a caucasian after a week in Cayman Islands. Will Apple do a black model...

Good point, I had forgotten.

No black and no glossy screen either.

Huh.
 
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