Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
singersongwrite said:
my 24" imac has left Shanghai! :D :)

Thanks for the screenshot - now that I have your tracking number and reference number I think I will go ahead and cancel your order. Or perhaps change the shipping address to my house. :p :cool:
 
You Need Line Of Sight Or A Bounce Off A Building • Terk TV5 Is Your Best Hope

moonfacekid said:
Sorry off topic but...

Multi, I'm interested in this comment because I have an Sony HDTV and want to try free over-the-air HD channels. I live in a condo so an outside antenna is a no-go. What is the farthest distance you recommend from a TV station tower? According to http://www.antennaweb.org/aw/welcome.aspx I am less than 40 miles from many local Boston TV stations. Will this antenna be good enough to get a good quality HD picture? If not, can you recommend any other indoor antennas?? Thanks.
You Need Line Of Sight Or A Bounce Off A Building • Terk TV5 Is Your Best Hope. I tried all sorts of rabit ears and they didn't work at all while TERK TV5 gets me 5 off air digital broadcast channels (2 from the same station which multichannels a weather channel all the time). Get it at Circuit City for $50 and place it at the window that faces toward Boston or opposite toward a building across the way where the signal will bounce at you. Place the Terk on it's side with some sort of platform - I use a cardboard box - and rotate it to get the proper signal for each station.

I can't tell you exactly how to position it. You need to experiment with all sorts of windows and all sorts of different positions including facing it out while it is ON IT's SIDE - IE The TOP becomes the SIDE - bottom facing inward. Then rotation will make a big difference as well.

Of course you need a long coax cable to get from the antennae at the window to the TV. Each household's reception varies a lot according to their particular location and surrounding buildings and trees for bounces.

For example. My transmitters are about 20-30 miles northeast of me while my window faces dead south. But there is a building about 40 feet away from my window that bounces the signals back at me for perfect strong reception.

If you can't get a signal in any way, Circuit City will let you return it for a refund.

One more thing. It's not will you get good enough reception or not. It's will you get reception or won't you? With digital broadcasting it's all or nothing. There is no in between reception. And when you get it on a Sony XBR Bravura it will look and sound fantastic!!
 
balamw said:

Thanks for the link--the issue is a little more complex, as you point out.

"However, Riley did say in his presentation yesterday that the decision to prevent protected HD content from playing in Vista 32bit was made at the studios’ request. So, effectively, Microsoft is saying much the same thing above that it said yesterday — albeit in a way that passes the buck back more directly to studios.

We’ve asked Microsoft what high definition protected content will actually play on Vista 32 bit and we’ll get back to you with its response."
 
nagromme said:
Thanks for the link--the issue is a little more complex, as you point out.
Yup, it's a crap shoot as to whether any particular install of Vista will play any given content. Lovely.

B
 
balamw said:
Where the heck are you puling $1500K or $2K from. I can price a Dell Dimension 9200 for < $1500

Intel ® Core™2 Duo Processor E6700 (2.66GHz, 1066 FSB)
Genuine Windows® XP Professional
FREE UPGRADE! 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz- 2DIMMs
250GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache™
Single Drive: 16X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) w/double layer write capability
256MB nVidia Geforce 7300LE TurboCache

Drop the base configuration to the 2.13 GHz chip and you have a $1200 box.

Another way to look at it. Drop the LCD from the 20" iMac and substitute 1-2 PCI slots. Should it cost any more than the iMac?

B
Yes, because the enclosure would be designed totality different, so that you could insert cards and the parts inside would be different also. And if all we had to do was dropped the LCD from the iMac, why wouldn't you just go with a 17" iMac instead of the 20". Do you see why your arguement makes no sense.

Also if you can get a cheap mini tower from Dell, why don't you and figure out a way to hack Mac OS X on it already. Oh I know why, because you want to have a real Mac. So if that's the case then you're willing to pay more for an Apple.

And don't you think Apple knows this.
 
whatever said:
Yes, because the enclosure would be designed totality different, so that you could insert cards and the parts inside would be different also. And if all we had to do was dropped the LCD from the iMac, why wouldn't you just go with a 17" iMac instead of the 20". Do you see why your arguement makes no sense.
Because the 20" comes with a faster processor and larger drive than the 17", and VRAM can be upgraded to 256 MB.

Apple no longer has to design their mobos from scratch. There are plenty of Intel reference designs they can use that will already be designed for expandability. Don't you see why your argument makes no sense?

Personally I can (generally) live without much internal upgradability, and the iMac is a very good deal, this is why I bought the 17" iMac instead of the mini I had originally planned to buy. It was a much better price/performance deal. I'd much prefer to see a pizza box media box than a true mid-range desktop, but the arguments are sound for why such a box is desirable and should be priced similarly to the iMacs.

B
 
Video card dissapointment.

I am suprised there aren't more people taking issue with the video card in the 20"er on this board.

I was waiting for this upgrade - to Merom, and a meatier gfx card (the ATI card is a real weakling). I don't want a 24" machine for my home, the 20" is just right - so WHY can't I have it with a better video card.. it is really annoying me!
 
sting

~Shard~ said:
Thanks for the screenshot - now that I have your tracking number and reference number I think I will go ahead and cancel your order. Or perhaps change the shipping address to my house. :p :cool:

thanks for the tip, ;) Fedex and the FBI have been notified about your comments...:eek: ---but you should already know it's too late to cancel!
 
danman said:
I am suprised there aren't more people taking issue with the video card in the 20"er on this board.

I was waiting for this upgrade - to Merom, and a meatier gfx card (the ATI card is a real weakling). I don't want a 24" machine for my home, the 20" is just right - so WHY can't I have it with a better video card.. it is really annoying me!
Probably because the 17" and 20" are still using the same mobo as the Yonah version they'll probably get upgraded down the line...

B
 
~Shard~ said:
Thanks for the screenshot - now that I have your tracking number and reference number I think I will go ahead and cancel your order. Or perhaps change the shipping address to my house. :p :cool:
:rolleyes: hey, i just realized that you're that dirty dell lover aren't you? why do you hang around here again?:confused:
 
balamw said:
Probably because the 17" and 20" are still using the same mobo as the Yonah version they'll probably get upgraded down the line...

Indeed... now I wonder when that will be.. :(
 
BenRoethig said:
The front row iMacs were thinner and used the ow power version of the 970FX that was introduced with the 970MP. Even then, they were pretty loud. Yonah and Merom iMacs are almost dead silent.

the rev. A and B imac G5s were loud. The rev. C, which had the rounded/bulged case, was quite silent.

danman said:
I am suprised there aren't more people taking issue with the video card in the 20"er on this board.

I was waiting for this upgrade - to Merom, and a meatier gfx card (the ATI card is a real weakling). I don't want a 24" machine for my home, the 20" is just right - so WHY can't I have it with a better video card.. it is really annoying me!

Indeed. The high-end and low-end imacs are both nice editions. As for the 2 mid-range models? They bumped the processor slightly, went to 1 GB RAM standard, and cut $100 off the price. All good and well, but not really all that exciting given that the machines they were replacing were 8 months old. An upgrade like this after 4 or 5 months is nice, but when we go January-September, I'd like to see something significant. The fact that apple stuck with a video card that was mid-range when it was first used 8 months ago is pretty disappointing.
 
balamw said:
Probably because the 17" and 20" are still using the same mobo as the Yonah version they'll probably get upgraded down the line...

B
Well we get the 3 GB RAM limit on on the 945GM models now though.

QCassidy352 said:
the rev. A and B imac G5s were loud. The rev. C, which had the rounded/bulged case, was quite silent.
Check my picture. The bulge is where the CPU is on the 20" models.

iMac Comparison
 
The 24" really made me think (about an upgrade). I bought the rev A Intel iMac and I´m very happy with it. But I do use it to watch movies and I find it a little bit too small, so a 24" would be perfect (and faster).

I knew it was likely that the Merom would be put in the iMac sooner rather than later when I bought mine, and my machine is fast enough.
It´s just that I would love that 24" screen. What to do
 
flopticalcube said:
Thanks for that. I gather that the MXM GPU is "welded" into place on the mobo, so the only upgrade path for video on the 20" is the memory, and that has limited benefit (save for games such as Oblivion, etc.). Thanks ehurtley and Multimedia. For US$75, its a no-brainer, but at CAD$150, grey matter is required.

Well, for the 17" and 20" model, the GPU itself is on the motherboard. MXM is a definition of a card the same way there are PCI, AGP, PCI Express, and even 'mini PCI', 'ExpressCard', and 'PC Card' slots. (The latter two fully enclosed to be easy to plugin/remove from the outside.) But, yeah, the 17" and 20" models aren't upgradeable, only the 24" model appears to have its video on a daughtercard. (The MXM card.)

Here's a comparison:

PCI slots were modified into the removable 'CardBus', and the less-removable 'mini PCI' (An AirPort Express card is really a mini PCI card.)
The PCI Express x16 Graphics slot was modified to become the MXM slot.

All three slots are electrically identical to their desktop counterparts, just with different physical connectors and card sizes optimized for mobile use.
 
ehurtley said:
Well, for the 17" and 20" model, the GPU itself is on the motherboard. MXM is a definition of a card the same way there are PCI, AGP, PCI Express, and even 'mini PCI', 'ExpressCard', and 'PC Card' slots. (The latter two fully enclosed to be easy to plugin/remove from the outside.) But, yeah, the 17" and 20" models aren't upgradeable, only the 24" model appears to have its video on a daughtercard. (The MXM card.)

Here's a comparison:

PCI slots were modified into the removable 'CardBus', and the less-removable 'mini PCI' (An AirPort Express card is really a mini PCI card.)
The PCI Express x16 Graphics slot was modified to become the MXM slot.

All three slots are electrically identical to their desktop counterparts, just with different physical connectors and card sizes optimized for mobile use.
Pictures! I want to know more about this daughter card in the new 24" iMac.
 
yoak said:
The 24" really made me think (about an upgrade). I bought the rev A Intel iMac and I´m very happy with it. But I do use it to watch movies and I find it a little bit too small, so a 24" would be perfect (and faster).

I knew it was likely that the Merom would be put in the iMac sooner rather than later when I bought mine, and my machine is fast enough.
It´s just that I would love that 24" screen. What to do

Yeah, that bad boy has more viewable area (for 16:9 movies, which I watch more often than 4:3 television anyway,) than my current TV... (Although it would look goofy in my TV cabinet.)

You could always buy an external 24" monitor. The original Intel iMacs are more than capable of running one. (And you can get a Dell 24"er for $700, according to others on here. Probably less than the 'upgrade' cost of selling your current iMac and buying a 24"er.)
 
there is going to be another version of the iMac later this year...
on the apple support site....

quote:"To reset the SMC on an iMac (Early 2006), iMac (Mid 2006), iMac (Late 2006), or Mac mini (Early 2006):"

This is the mid 2006 model, the first intel was the early 2006 model
 
thedonga said:
there is going to be another version of the iMac later this year...
on the apple support site....

quote:"To reset the SMC on an iMac (Early 2006), iMac (Mid 2006), iMac (Late 2006), or Mac mini (Early 2006):"

This is the mid 2006 model, the first intel was the early 2006 model
The Mid 2006 model was the educational model.
 
thedonga said:
there is going to be another version of the iMac later this year...
on the apple support site....

quote:"To reset the SMC on an iMac (Early 2006), iMac (Mid 2006), iMac (Late 2006), or Mac mini (Early 2006):"

This is the mid 2006 model, the first intel was the early 2006 model
I think the mid 2006 refers to the Intel iMac for Education.

This is the late 2006 model revision.

B
 
The new 20" iMac is just the perfect computer for a college student like myself (if I wasn't addicted to laptops, that is, hah).

At only $1399 it packs one hell of a wallop. If I weren't waiting for updated MacBooks and hated being tied to a desk I'd be ordering that right now!
 
thedonga said:
personally I think everyone is crazy for ordering something prior to next tuesday...

I agree. Because there is always a chance that Apple will update the iMac line ONE WEEK after they release new ones.

Of course my iMac wouldn't have shipped by then so I'd be automagically updated anyway. :p
 
wow that was fast

singersongwrite said:
my 24" imac has left Shanghai! :D :)

I ordered my last night and I need to wait till the 15th for it to ship... I opted for faster shipping because of the long initial wait... all we do is wait... wait for announcements and then wait for new toys...

Good news for you and good luck too...
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.