The problem is that you people fail to realize that Affirmative Action is righting a wrong.
How is harming the innocent righting a wrong? Or are you saying that all white people bear the guilt for the mistreatment of blacks over the years?
Without it, white people will choose white people as employees almost 100% of the time.
Do we or do we not have a black president? By your logic, Obama wouldn't have been elected.
It's not even conscious. You can believe you're making a meritocratic decision, but studies have shown that people actually prefer people that are more like themselves consistently.
Projecting your own failings on others doesn't mean they suffer the same flaws as you. Within limits, people overlook the differences to embrace the advantages. Now, if you insist on making yourself look or act inappropriately for the job market, that's not society's fault, it's yours.
Bill Cosby put it nicely:
They're standing on the corner and they can't speak English. I can't even talk the way these people talk: Why you ain't, Where you is, What he drive, Where he stay, Where he work, Who you be... And I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk. And then I heard the father talk.
Everybody knows it's important to speak English except these knuckleheads. You can't be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth. In fact you will never get any kind of job making a decent living.
People marched and were hit in the face with rocks to get an education, and now we've got these knuckleheads walking around. The lower economic people are not holding up their end in this deal. These people are not parenting. They are buying things for kids. $500 sneakers for what? And they won't spend $200 for Hooked on Phonics.
I am talking about these people who cry when their son is standing there in an orange suit. Where were you when he was 2? Where were you when he was 12? Where were you when he was 18 and how come you didn't know that he had a pistol? And where is the father? Or who is his father?
People putting their clothes on backward: Isn't that a sign of something gone wrong? People with their hats on backward, pants down around the crack, isn't that a sign of something? Or are you waiting for Jesus to pull his pants up? Isn't it a sign of something when she has her dress all the way up and got all type of needles [piercing] going through her body?
Case in point, concert orchestras. When concert orchestras started using blind auditioning techniques, the number of women in concert orchestras rose by 25%. Coincidence? I think not. How do you know it's not the case that more white people get hired than black people simply because there are more white people doing the hiring?
Please supply a source for that claim.
Also, what Duck is saying boils down to a tautology. By your definition, hiring a black person to give them an equal opportunity is discriminating against the white person.
Nonsense. If it's equal opportunity by law, then you're not supposed to discriminate on the basis of race, creed, age, sex, etc. Any other reason you choose to discriminate between candidates is fine and not unfair to anyone.
Why can't race make you the best person for the job?
OK, I'll bite. Please give me an example of a job where the color of your skin makes you the best person for the job.
What if you have a team full of white people creating a product aimed at black people, so it would be advantageous to have at least a few non-white opinions at the table? Differing opinions are important in creating a strong, diverse company.
So? You've just described a ridiculously impractical hypothetical. If you are creating a product aimed at black people this week, what happens when you're marketing a product to asians next week?
