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Apple Releases Final Cut Pro 10.1.4 and Xcode 6.1.1

You may want to learn FCPX first....

"Opacity key frames in fcp 7 were set directly on the clip"

CTRL V to show video animation. ALT click in the opacity layer to set keyframes directly in the timeline.

I also feel there should be a way to disable the magnetic effect of the time line.

Use the POSITION tool (P) to move clips without using the magnetic timeline. pressing the ~ key will also allow you to ignore the connections to the main story line.

I find that many complaints about editing in X are just due to the user not knowing the program yet. I know it can be frustrating at first, but FCPX is way more advanced than FCP7 ever was. Good luck.
 
eVasilis said:
Let me start with opacity control, the way it was implemented in fcp 7 is, in my opinion, much much better. Opacity key frames in fcp 7 were set directly on the clip and not in a pop up menu ensuring fast control over it in the case there are multiple video layers (or tracks if you will). The trackless system is painful when you have to deal with multiple tracks of video and audio you may end up with all of them, allover the place. I also feel there should be a way to disable the magnetic effect of the time line. When using a lot of elements you need space and the ability to move them about without worrying that those will also move what ever clip they have attached themselves to or that fcp has a different opinion on syncing. I could go on and on but enough for today. I need to repeat, that I am not trolling and I am not a hater. Just frustrated because FCP7 is a dying app and the transition to FCPX, probably will not be happening.
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You have opacity controls on each clip. select the clip and hit 'control + v' brings up a raft of controls on the clip including opacity

also I just flip between the A and P tool for any purpose and the magnetic timeline never gives me grief.

The hardest thing for me with FCPx was stop trying to get it to work how you would in 7 but rather learn a new way of working. it was hard but I've found it rewarding

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robhotz said:
"Opacity key frames in fcp 7 were set directly on the clip"

CTRL V to show video animation. ALT click in the opacity layer to set keyframes directly in the timeline.

I also feel there should be a way to disable the magnetic effect of the time line.

Use the POSITION tool (P) to move clips without using the magnetic timeline. pressing the ~ key will also allow you to ignore the connections to the main story line.

I find that many complaints about editing in X are just due to the user not knowing the program yet. I know it can be frustrating at first, but FCPX is way more advanced than FCP7 ever was. Good luck.
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Sorry never seen your post until I did. snap :)
 
macintologist said:
Like everything else, they should just make FCPX free to everyone.
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No, the should sell it for $1500 and include a suite of complimentary production apps with easy round tripping between them and with Motion. They should call it Final Cut Studio...eeee-gad that happened already!
 
eVasilis said:
Cheaper indeed, lees usable as well. I am not trolling, I am only extremely frustrated with fcpx...
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are you kidding? fcpx is very powerful and very usable. it is light years ahead of fcp studio.

i get stuff edited in 1/3rd the time.

take advantage of keywords and the shift to storytelling mindset and it's a better way to work.
 
d4rkc4sm said:
are you kidding? fcpx is very powerful and very usable. it is light years ahead of fcp studio.

i get stuff edited in 1/3rd the time.

take advantage of keywords and the shift to storytelling mindset and it's a better way to work.
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My most recent project is a trailer I cut for a feature. Besides the video there were six separate audio tracks including dialogue, music, effects and ambience. Having a trackless setup makes it difficult to decide on placement and I end up having audio moving allover the place. It is not a question of exporting certain audio parts it is one of knowing where your sounds are so you can move them when you need to without having to worry about moving the clip they attach themselves onto, locking then in place and being able to do what you are supposed to: decide which parts go where and change them when required.

I agree the way FCPX tags clips, the keyword collections, is amazing but, in my opinion, there's a lot that needs to be done.
 
robhotz said:
"Opacity key frames in fcp 7 were set directly on the clip"

CTRL V to show video animation. ALT click in the opacity layer to set keyframes directly in the timeline.

I also feel there should be a way to disable the magnetic effect of the time line.

Use the POSITION tool (P) to move clips without using the magnetic timeline. pressing the ~ key will also allow you to ignore the connections to the main story line.

I find that many complaints about editing in X are just due to the user not knowing the program yet. I know it can be frustrating at first, but FCPX is way more advanced than FCP7 ever was. Good luck.
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Thanks. I know of the CTRL V to show video animation. I'll try to explain my problem better. Some time ago, I created a clip that at some point had 6 video tracks playing simultaneously. Those had varying opacities so none would mask any other. Setting the opacities on those clips was the result of a lot of trial and error until I was pleased with the result. Doing this in FCPX is impossible. Having the video animation showing on so many clips, that are placed (not necessarily aligned) on top of each other, simultaneously makes it impossible to use.

I use the position tool but it can get in the way. I do not need Apple to drop the magnetic time line, I only wish they provided the option to disable it. In the case that one needs to do multi track work (audio and video) it does not speed up things at all.
 
eVasilis said:
Let me start with opacity control, the way it was implemented in fcp 7 is, in my opinion, much much better. Opacity key frames in fcp 7 were set directly on the clip and not in a pop up menu ensuring fast control over it in the case there are multiple video layers (or tracks if you will). The trackless system is painful when you have to deal with multiple tracks of video and audio you may end up with all of them, allover the place. I also feel there should be a way to disable the magnetic effect of the time line. When using a lot of elements you need space and the ability to move them about without worrying that those will also move what ever clip they have attached themselves to or that fcp has a different opinion on syncing. I could go on and on but enough for today. I need to repeat, that I am not trolling and I am not a hater. Just frustrated because FCP7 is a dying app and the transition to FCPX, probably will not be happening.
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I'm hardly a power user or even regular user, but I thought you could disable the magnetic timeline?
 
eVasilis said:
My most recent project is a trailer I cut for a feature. Besides the video there were six separate audio tracks including dialogue, music, effects and ambience. Having a trackless setup makes it difficult to decide on placement and I end up having audio moving allover the place. It is not a question of exporting certain audio parts it is one of knowing where your sounds are so you can move them when you need to without having to worry about moving the clip they attach themselves onto, locking then in place and being able to do what you are supposed to: decide which parts go where and change them when required.

I agree the way FCPX tags clips, the keyword collections, is amazing but, in my opinion, there's a lot that needs to be done.
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you can move the connection point of a connected clip by pressing command+option and clicking a new point.

see tip 23 here http://fcpx.tv/tips3.html

your audio can also be the main storyline and should have clips connected to it. you can put all connected clips for a particular story into their own storyline.
 
d4rkc4sm said:
you can move the connection point of a connected clip by pressing command+option and clicking a new point.

see tip 23 here http://fcpx.tv/tips3.html

your audio can also be the main storyline and should have clips connected to it. you can put all connected clips for a particular story into their own storyline.
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Thanks for the tip and link.
 
eVasilis said:
My most recent project is a trailer I cut for a feature. Besides the video there were six separate audio tracks including dialogue, music, effects and ambience. Having a trackless setup makes it difficult to decide on placement and I end up having audio moving allover the place. It is not a question of exporting certain audio parts it is one of knowing where your sounds are so you can move them when you need to without having to worry about moving the clip they attach themselves onto, locking then in place and being able to do what you are supposed to: decide which parts go where and change them when required.

I agree the way FCPX tags clips, the keyword collections, is amazing but, in my opinion, there's a lot that needs to be done.
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the only place you should be discussing this is

https://forums.creativecow.net/applefinalcutpro

https://forums.creativecow.net/finalcutprox

Whine over there. If they knee cap you, don't say you weren't warned.
 
eVasilis said:
My most recent project is a trailer I cut for a feature. Besides the video there were six separate audio tracks including dialogue, music, effects and ambience. Having a trackless setup makes it difficult to decide on placement and I end up having audio moving allover the place. It is not a question of exporting certain audio parts it is one of knowing where your sounds are so you can move them when you need to without having to worry about moving the clip they attach themselves onto, locking then in place and being able to do what you are supposed to: decide which parts go where and change them when required.

I agree the way FCPX tags clips, the keyword collections, is amazing but, in my opinion, there's a lot that needs to be done.
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You can create secondary storylines for your audio which may help.

so for example you can select all your dialogue press 'cmd+G' and all your dialogue audi will be in their own 'track' if you will which has one connection point. yu can repeat that for any other grouping you want 'B Roll' music etc

Also compound clips help enormously and you are only 1 double click away from editing it. so simple, Getting to grips with both these things helps get past fixed tracks
 
Could we also get an update to iMove that makes it actually good like before? I tried to use it because I didn't have iMovie '06 on my computer at the time, and it was so unusable that I ended up using GarageBand instead to edit a clip. Where did the timeline go?!
 
I'm in a unique-ish situation.

I still use Adobe CS6 for my main production work. I still have *some* clients that need Blu-ray discs burned, so I can't update past Mountain Lion in my Mac Pro tower, or Encore won't work for DVD/BD authoring any longer, as many learned when they updated to Mavericks. This is fine, because Mountain Lion works perfectly smooth for me.

However, FCPx won't allow updates unless you update the OSX version. So my version is frozen at 10.0.9 until I update, which then breaks my Adobe tools. That is a bit of a bummer, but not really, because I really love editing with Adobe.

My option is to use my laptop for FCPx, which is updated to Mavericks. It has dual SSDs, 16GB of RAM and USB 3.0 / TB for additional external drives when needed, but I still like my much more powerful Mac Pro with the RAID towers and dual screens to edit. Plus, the laptop has the DVD burner replaced with one of the SSDs. That means exporting the product in the laptop, then importing it into FCPx on the desktop for any disc burning needs. Bleh.

Such is life, and those that don't adapt become irrelevant. Maybe I'm just lucky to be able to thrive without using FCPx.
 
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