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I like the remote. I just wish it had a built in AirTag.
Same. For now, I've got it and an AirTag in one of these cases, and it works out pretty well (I ended up punching a couple extra holes in the sides of the case so the sound comes out full strength). With this, I can just say, "Hey Siri, where's my remote", and it starts chirping.
 
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If apple can perfect a Mac touchpad, they should be able to do it again on a remote.
If you can use a touch based device aka iPhone, touch based remotes should also be a possibility.

The old remote with the touch pad opens so much possibilities when you are not confined by hard buttons pre-built into them.
The new remote does have a touchpad, it's just smaller. There's a limit to the possibilities with the touchpad in this situation - on a phone, you're looking at the screen you're touching, and they can put all sorts of context-dependent buttons on screen as needed.

And on a Mac, your hands are generally anchored on the Mac while using the trackpad (and the Mac is sitting on some surface), you're using it mostly for moving the cursor around (they tried very hard to make the Apple TV not have an independent cursor to move around), and you can do a bunch of gestures on the remote with multiple fingers (pinching/zooming and multi-finger swipes) because the trackpad is anchored down. On a remote all that sort of goes out the window when you're holding it in one hand and not looking at it - unless you're recommending either building a touchscreen into the remote and taking your focus off the TV screen to look at the remote (to be iPhone like), or... holding the remote in one hand while making multitouch gestures on it with the other hand. I think both of those would be terrible ideas.
 
does it warns you now that the battery is low? Or it still dies every other day?
The Apple TV always informs me with an on-screen notification, every time the Siri Remote needs charging, which is like every 3 months or so. If yours is dying every day, you should get that fixed or replaced.
 
I wasn't near my Apple TV when I wrote that and couldn't check and I haven't used that method in a while, thus the vague "navigate" rather than specific instructions. It's still multiple operations (long press the home button and then press the center of the clickpad) rather than a single long-press on a button that's clearly marked as a power button. Both of the buttons they added make things simpler, because they're single buttons that people expect and that are labeled with symbols that people will already know or easily figure out (indeed, if you just tap the new power button, you'll get an onscreen overlay saying to hold it down to turn off everything). The old method for powering off was not easily discoverable.

You go on to list a bunch of different ways to accomplish muting, most of which are not universal - they all depend on which app you're using or what you're watching or what kind of system you're listening through (for your HomePods, for instance). That's hardly an Apple way to do things. And it would mean Apple would have to provide a whole page of directions for users who just wanted to mute (who may be calling or chatting with support to ask how to mute), rather than just saying "push the mute button". Personally, I never use the mute button, because I don't watch live sports - I push the pause button instead. But I can totally understand why they added it - and it was, anecdotally, one of the most often requested features here in the forums. Apple probably got a lot of the same feedback from other people.

The "third position rocker switch" approach would have made the volume up/down control have a worse tactile response for the 98% of the time when it's controlling the volume, in order to overload it with a new function for the other 2% of the time. I think that would not be a win.

And I strongly dislike systems that expect one to mute (when muting is necessary) by turning the volume down - I may have gotten the volume to just the place I wanted - if I turn it down and then back up, I have to find that just-right volume setting again. And it's not easily repeatable, because the Apple TV doesn't, say, show a numerical volume readout on the screen. So, if you have an actual need to mute, just running the volume down is an inferior solution.

What it really feels like is, you didn't want a mute button because you don't personally need/use it, and you're proposing a whole bunch of convoluted / inferior solutions you'd rather have other people suffering through, just so you wouldn't have to have a mute button you didn't want. I'm happy enough to just let them have a mute button, even if I won't ever use it.

I don't care about the remote looking futuristic or elegant, I want it to work well. The Apple TV remote is a huge improvement over traditional remotes, because it only includes buttons that are necessary, without having a ton of dedicated buttons that aren't used most of the time or for most of the modes (like a numeric keypad, picture-in-picture controls, fast forward/rewind, aspect ratio controls, hardwired buttons for various streaming services, etc.)... buttons that just end up being in the way most of the time, something you have to carefully reach over to get to the desired controls. None of that applies to the power and mute buttons - you may not use them all the time, but a lot of people do, and expect them on a remote. And it's two buttons, not dozens (and, no, this isn't some slippery slope that will end up with dedicated buttons for streaming services that paid their way onto the remote).


It feels like your post is mainly a "because I said so" lecture type of post. Go see my past posts that you replied to for my reply as you're not treading any ground here and seemingly not really reading some parts of my posts either.
 
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Has anyone else have problems with their remote on the clicking buttons left and right? my is making a weird noise with everyclick like somethings is sticking or worn out somehow? Can you open them up to clean?
OMG Yes. I thought it was just me. Every 3rd click or so up on the click wheel seems like a loud crunchy sticky pop...right, left, down for me, however, are all fine. I've even gone so far as to look over the iFixit teardown to see if I can easily open it open to check. Just started happening a few months ago...right after the one-year warranty expired...SOL!
 
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Anybody have issues where the back button takes you back to the Home Screen even if several pages into Hulu or Netflix? Happens on both my fully updates boxes (current gen). Occurs maybe once every 15 or so days. Hoping this fixes it.
Count me on this annoying issue...back button takes me back to Home Screen frequently.
 
Probably too early, but anybody notice any actual improvements in bugs from this thread with new version?
 
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Apple today released new firmware for the Siri Remote designed for the Apple TV, updating the software from version 9M6772 to 10M1103. The software is for the redesigned Siri Remote that was released in May 2021, aka the gray remote with the updated interface. In the Apple TV settings, the new firmware will display as 0x0070, up from 0x0061.

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There is no word on what's new with the Apple TV Siri Remote, but it likely includes minor bug fixes and performance improvements. Apple regularly provides firmware updates for its hardware products, though the company does not typically provide details on what's been refreshed.

Apple also does not provide details on how to update the Siri Remote, but the software will be installed over the air automatically through the Apple TV. The updated Siri Remote is available with the latest-generation Apple TV 4K and Apple TV HD models, plus it is sold on a standalone basis.

Article Link: Apple Releases Firmware Update for Apple TV Siri Remote
I hope it fixes the inconsistent latency issues with it when using it to control the volume of stereo paired HomePods.
Seems to have fixed the latency issues for me…
 
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The new remote does have a touchpad, it's just smaller. There's a limit to the possibilities with the touchpad in this situation - on a phone, you're looking at the screen you're touching, and they can put all sorts of context-dependent buttons on screen as needed.

And on a Mac, your hands are generally anchored on the Mac while using the trackpad (and the Mac is sitting on some surface), you're using it mostly for moving the cursor around (they tried very hard to make the Apple TV not have an independent cursor to move around), and you can do a bunch of gestures on the remote with multiple fingers (pinching/zooming and multi-finger swipes) because the trackpad is anchored down. On a remote all that sort of goes out the window when you're holding it in one hand and not looking at it - unless you're recommending either building a touchscreen into the remote and taking your focus off the TV screen to look at the remote (to be iPhone like), or... holding the remote in one hand while making multitouch gestures on it with the other hand. I think both of those would be terrible ideas.
Definitely not multi touch, but adding haptic feedback will make lots of interactions more accurate.

Other possiblities of removing buttons or repositioning them can be:
Mute, volumn up and down can be moved to the side like iPhones
Back button can be replaced with a swipe from left edge gesture
Home button can be replaced with a swipe from botton edge gesture, same applies to background task and control center, iOS logic could be reused.

Play/pause being the only one left, can generally be replaced by a single center click.

It’s my personal opinion but a next gen remote from apple, considering the ideas they introduced from last gen, should move more towards touch interface, and incorporating gestures users are already using on their iPhones and technologies that made mac touchpad enjoyable.

Adding clickable components to the touch surface is like adding a touchable hardware keyboard back onto an iPhone. I know there can be arguments made about the remote doesn’t need to display anything, but changing how we interact with tech was always what Apple was doing.

Not to mention the click wheel have some inconsistent behavior making it even more frustrating to use. Some of the UIs of Apple’s native apps are designed for the touch pad.
 
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Volume change is far more responsive.
Agreed. Don’t want to speak too soon, but I haven’t had the lagging volume since this change. Nor the bug where pressing the back button would sometimes be interpreted as multiple presses of the button so you’d be kicked back to the Home Screen.
 
Other possiblities of removing buttons or repositioning them can be:
Mute, volumn up and down can be moved to the side like iPhones
Back button can be replaced with a swipe from left edge gesture
Home button can be replaced with a swipe from botton edge gesture, same applies to background task and control center, iOS logic could be reused.

Play/pause being the only one left, can generally be replaced by a single center click.
The primary point of the iPhone is to have a big touchscreen - that's why the volume controls are on the side, where they're out of the way, though still accessible. On the Siri Remote, the volume controls are one of the main reasons for the remote. Moving them to the side would make about as much sense as resizing the screen on the iPhone to only half the front of the phone to make room for putting all the buttons on the front of the phone.

Replacing single button presses on dedicated buttons - that you can feel for before pressing, without looking at the remote - with swipes... is a terrible idea, . It's taking nearly all the main functions (volume, mute, back, home, play/pause) and pushing them aside as secondary functions, making them harder to use, in order to free up front-of-remote space for... nebulous interactive features?

What would serve your desires better would be to get Apple to release a very good second-screen app for the existing iPhone and iPad, specifically designed to control and work with the Apple TV - no new hardware needed, no discarding the dedicated buttons that work so well on the current remote, and you get a full touchscreen, haptic feedback, multitouch, gestures, and the volume buttons on the side.
 
My remote never had issues…today went to use it and can no longer adjust the volume level on my tv, in the past I never had this issue. I’m thinking it is related to the new firmware. Anyone else experiencing this?
 
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My remote never had issues…today went to use it and can no longer adjust the volume level on my tv, in the past I never had this issue. I’m thinking it is related to the new firmware. Anyone else experiencing this?
Check the setting for how the remote sends out the volume control. Maybe it got turned off.
 
My remote never had issues…today went to use it and can no longer adjust the volume level on my tv, in the past I never had this issue. I’m thinking it is related to the new firmware. Anyone else experiencing this?
Same issue! TV is a Vizio and volume controls no longer work. No luck with toggling the setting or restarting either device.

EDIT: Found a solution on Reddit. Hard restart the remote by holding the volume up and home button for around 5 seconds.
 
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My remote never had issues…today went to use it and can no longer adjust the volume level on my tv, in the past I never had this issue. I’m thinking it is related to the new firmware. Anyone else experiencing this?
Same. I can no longer use the Siri remote to adjust volume on my HiSense U8G. This was never a problem before the firmware update. I tried holding down the volume up + home button as mentioned above but it didn’t work. The light dot on the Apple TV device itself does blink when I press the volume buttons, but no response. Interestingly, when I try using the remote in the Control Center on iPhone, the volume icon on the top left is grayed out.
 
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Same. I can no longer use the Siri remote to adjust volume on my HiSense U8G. This was never a problem before the firmware update. I tried holding down the volume up + home button as mentioned above but it didn’t work. The light dot on the Apple TV device itself does blink when I press the volume buttons, but no response. Interestingly, when I try using the remote in the Control Center on iPhone, the volume icon on the top left is grayed out.
Try re-setting your remote:
 
Same. I can no longer use the Siri remote to adjust volume on my HiSense U8G. This was never a problem before the firmware update. I tried holding down the volume up + home button as mentioned above but it didn’t work. The light dot on the Apple TV device itself does blink when I press the volume buttons, but no response. Interestingly, when I try using the remote in the Control Center on iPhone, the volume icon on the top left is grayed out.
I’m having this same EXACT issue
 
My remote never had issues…today went to use it and can no longer adjust the volume level on my tv, in the past I never had this issue. I’m thinking it is related to the new firmware. Anyone else experiencing this?
Me too :(
 
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