Apple Releases First Beta of macOS High Sierra 10.13.4 to Public Beta Testers

Does this latest beta allow you to import AVCHD video format directly into photos? Seems to have been broken in High Sierra.
 
OldSchoolMacGuy said:
10.14 will not allow 32-bit apps. So now they're going to begin warning people in the current 10.13, so when 10.14 is released this September, people aren't surprised when their 32-bit apps stop working.
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Do you have a source for that claim?

I think the expectation is that the Mac App Store will no longer allow 32-bit apps in 10.14, but non-App-Store 32-bit apps will still run, albeit with warning messages. Likely also a setting in System Preferences, similar to the setting to allow non-App Store apps.
 
Anonymous Freak said:
Do you have a source for that claim?

I think the expectation is that the Mac App Store will no longer allow 32-bit apps in 10.14, but non-App-Store 32-bit apps will still run, albeit with warning messages. Likely also a setting in System Preferences, similar to the setting to allow non-App Store apps.
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Apple has said:

macOS High Sierra will be the last macOS release to support 32-bit apps without compromise.
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While 10.14 might have some support for 32-bit apps outside the App Store, it will come with compromises as Apple has said. Since we don't know what those compromises might be, it's best to just take it as 32-bit is dead as one can't plan on their current 32-bit apps functioning properly from 10.14 forward.

https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=06282017a
 
hsotnicam8002 said:
If you like image files to be totally red (some won't even recover by dragging to the desktop, so are they back-holed?) then you'll be ecstatic over the photos app.
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I joined this forum just looking for answers to this exact problem im having... any new image that gets on my iMac is red when you open it. even in iPhoto the new ones are red since i updated to 10.13.4 beta
 
It seems Apple have painted themselves into a corner and have no idea what they are doing and how to fix it...10.13.4 is a mess, it has ruined many apps from what I have seen, duetdisplay is one of them, duetdisplay cannot at this point fix the issue, basically have to wait until a stable release is published, then just in the last day or so Apple has announced that they are not going to release a new OS in 2018, maybe not in 2019 until bugs and errors in iOS and High Sierra are fixed....

Which is a bit of a laugh as they have not fixed fcpx since 10.0.0..the same errors in 10.0.0 are in 10.4, some 6 years later and the same annoying errors are there, no one it seems cares or bothers to even respond...Even the feedback page is impossible..Have you seen the bugreport for Apple? It is so outdated it might have been saved and used from the Apple II days...a text editor limited to 2000 characters and no attachments?

No Apple will not fix that problem, you have 2 choices...try and submit a feedback, basically it is filed in the trashcan at Apple, or wait...Maybe a 3rd option...which might work..file a class action..I hear Apple only really responds to those...
 
Msivyparrot said:
In what way is the dictionary app not working, apart from it being a clone of wikipedia..
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All the reference sources are gone except wikipedia
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It is very different on Sierra, 10.12.6 release, I have exactly the same on High Sierra 10.13.4 beta...um strange one...I doubt Apple even knows there is a dictionary...Does Apple even care???
 
How weird. I had the same issue with my dictionary (all missing apart from Wikipedia, and I logged a Feedback on this issue) but I ran the Dictionary app just now and it complained about missing dictionaries and asked me if I wanted to download them.

It's now working perfectly.
 
I just checked, it did a download for the Dictionary app, but it still only displays wikipedia pages, and no dictionary terms, only what language, English checked, and no visible dictionary...

Um..Apple really is this just above your level???? A dictionary....a simple text thing..
 
Msivyparrot said:
Does Apple even care???
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Do Apple care that the first developer beta of a minor release lacks a minor feature? If they’re not aware of the issue, yes. I’m sure you’ve reported it on Radar.

If they are aware, no, they don’t care. It’s not that relevant at this stage of development.
 
chucker23n1 said:
Do Apple care that the first developer beta of a minor release lacks a minor feature? If they’re not aware of the issue, yes. I’m sure you’ve reported it on Radar.

If they are aware, no, they don’t care. It’s not that relevant at this stage of development.
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I'n not exactly familiar with how Apple is addressing reported problems.
Do they have several employees working at different reported issues or do they tackle them one at a time?
One of the last things you want is solve a problem but create another one.
And it could, in some way maybe, explain the randomly changing amount of beta's per OS version.
 
The Friar said:
I'n not exactly familiar with how Apple is addressing reported problems.
Do they have several employees working at different reported issues or do they tackle them one at a time?
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Wait what?

There’s going to be thousands of issues open in Radar at any given time, so they’ll have hundreds of engineers triaging and working on those.

The Friar said:
One of the last things you want is solve a problem but create another one.
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It happens. You can mitigate it somewhat with automated tests, but there’s no silver bullet here. Software development is hard.

Throwing more people to work on one particular issue isn’t going to do much to expedite solving that issue, though it may of course lead to higher quality due to peer review.

The Friar said:
And it could, in some way maybe, explain the randomly changing amount of beta's per OS version.
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I don’t know what there is to explain about that. Sometimes, you have a fixed timetable (e.g., your release needs to correspond with a hardware release, or you need to hurry because your release contains a critical security fix); sometimes, you don’t. Sometimes, a beta contains a major undiscovered bug so you try to quickly follow up with another. Sometimes, a beta contains additional diagnostic data, and you only need a few days’ worth of that data. And sometimes, a beta is just quite boring — you want as many people as possible to test it so you get a wide range of information on how well it pans out.

Doesn’t mean much beyond that. Many betas doesn’t mean good or bad. Few betas doesn’t either.
 
Apple simply were too greedy, and made a huge mistake, created a monster that needs feeding, and they have no idea what to do to either sedate the monster, they cannot kill the monster...What is this monster...it is a new operating system every year...

Had Apple decided to stick with say Tiger for more than a year, say every 60 months, instead of 12, we would maybe have a better or worse situation, hard to know, but now with the news Apple is holding off a new OS for 2018 and maybe 2019, it seems that the only way Apple can figure the solution is to sedate the monster, which is maybe the better choice, sure having something new every year is great, but it could not be sustained, Apple was too hasty, lost focus, what this happened before..Final Cut Pro X 10.0.0, released way too early, and hasty patching and a re-release and people are slowly accepting the new version.

The point is, the feedback system, the feedback assistant, the bug reporter system are unfit for the task, Apple has not invested in new versions, I mean send a 300MB file each time the dictionary fails, or FCPX does not work is insane, create a once off partition for users on icloud that once a week, once a month, this 500MB partition on icloud is updated, so that during the day, the data can be uploaded and when I report an error, this icloud linked file is attached, and can if Apple so chooses download or view online...

High Sierra is a mess, really it should be scrapped, condemned and in 2020 or 2021 a new OS and a new name be used, just patch Sierra until 2021, it is only 36 months away...
 
And all this bluster over a Beta 1 of a new release (an update, not a full new OS) and the bugs that come with running beta software? Just wow.

About the only part of your post that I kind of agree with is the annual "major OS upgrade". I don't understand why this is deemed "necessary". Indeed, with the right frameworks, new features can be added to the OS in interim updates without a full-bore new OS.

But this all being said - High Sierra isn't bad, and certainly is better than some previous OS releases. I'm holding off/keeping Software Update at bay on the Beta install until at least Public Beta 2, and maybe 3 to give Apple time to address some of the more major issues that seem to be common. I'm also maintaining regular backups until that time, just in case.


Msivyparrot said:
Apple simply were too greedy, and made a huge mistake, created a monster that needs feeding, and they have no idea what to do to either sedate the monster, they cannot kill the monster...What is this monster...it is a new operating system every year...

Had Apple decided to stick with say Tiger for more than a year, say every 60 months, instead of 12, we would maybe have a better or worse situation, hard to know, but now with the news Apple is holding off a new OS for 2018 and maybe 2019, it seems that the only way Apple can figure the solution is to sedate the monster, which is maybe the better choice, sure having something new every year is great, but it could not be sustained, Apple was too hasty, lost focus, what this happened before..Final Cut Pro X 10.0.0, released way too early, and hasty patching and a re-release and people are slowly accepting the new version.

The point is, the feedback system, the feedback assistant, the bug reporter system are unfit for the task, Apple has not invested in new versions, I mean send a 300MB file each time the dictionary fails, or FCPX does not work is insane, create a once off partition for users on icloud that once a week, once a month, this 500MB partition on icloud is updated, so that during the day, the data can be uploaded and when I report an error, this icloud linked file is attached, and can if Apple so chooses download or view online...

High Sierra is a mess, really it should be scrapped, condemned and in 2020 or 2021 a new OS and a new name be used, just patch Sierra until 2021, it is only 36 months away...
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It is not about a beta, you missed the point of my posts, we are fixing the rungs on a ladder, instead of replacing the ladder, that is the problem.

Apple made a decision years ago to once a year issue a new OS, and in the early days, this was fine, and even today it would be fine, Apple has to make a decision, to spend or not to spend, that is the question...Tim Cook made that decision in saying no new OS for 2018/2019, until we fix High Sierra...

That is not spending money, hire more staff, buy more companies, but no, Apple is hoarding money like it knows something...

Apple will of course never confirm or deny anything, but really it is not hard to see that Apple is now in a corner, and does not know or refuses to be brave and do the right thing...

Killing of of apps and operating systems is not something new, Apple could in a heartbeat render all versions of HS mute, like they have with ios9.3.5, no matter how many times I try, my ipad mini 1 refused to update past 9.3.5, Apple could release a "lite" version of 10, or 11 but choose not to, why? Why not?

Sadly Apple has no idea what to do, or how to fix the problem, iphones are stuck at a design junction...no replacement for the mac pro cheesgrater, or the trash can, the ban on post purchase upgrading, the bland impossible to tell the difference between macbookpro, macbook air, macbook...the silly imacs and confused imac pros, and now silly bluetooth speakers....

I call it as I see it, a confused CEO not sure about what he wants, a designer that really has no confidence any more, a world demanding more and more, and the boss, the shareholder wanting to be the first to $1 trillion...
 
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