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Apple Releases First Betas of iOS 18.2 and More With Genmoji, Image Playground and ChatGPT Integration

ProbablyDylan said:
Is that a punishment, though? I certainly don't feel like I'm being punished. The Europeans maybe feel that way, they aren't generating anything on their phones, but that's a different discussion.

Plus, we both ignore the very likely possibility of them just not being happy with the results of realistic generations. Extra digits, ugly eyes, etc.
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I still do not understand the point you are making for Apple not supporting realistic photos for Image Playground. If I’m not able to do something based on actions that some other people might make, that does, in effect, seem like a form of punishment even though I do not suffer physically, mentally, emotionally, etc from it.

So then your next argument is based on the feelings that someone might have if someone else were to create a fake image of them with flawed characteristics. If you don’t support this concept, then just say that. The arguments you have thus far made are not convincing for why we shouldn’t have it.
 
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TwoBytes said:
A notable mention that keeps being forgotten is that all Apple intelligence is US only, and the rest of the world has to wait unless you change your region and mess up your language.
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This version is also intended to have support for other languages (e.g. UK). I haven't confirmed yet but shouldnt this beta support those languages too?
 
ProbablyDylan said:
For some reason I was expecting the rest of Apple Intelligence to arrive piecemeal like the summaries and Clean Up. After this stuff, all that's left is the personal context awareness isn't it?
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Also doesn’t look like the general enhancements to Siri are available yet.
 
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TheDrakeMan said:
So your logic is that everyone should be punished because of some creepy people. As I said, add to the metadata that the photo is not genuine. Accessing metadata for photos isn’t a hard concept, and if people can’t decide what is true or not true based on a photo, then that’s more on them than anything else. People have been digitally altering photos for decades and that won’t ever stop.
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This is an insane take. Apple offering a feature that isn’t to your liking isn’t a “punishment.” And your lackadaisical attitude towards the serious problems generative AI will cause—and already is causing—is concerning.
 
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everlast3434 said:
Can't wait to spend time making mojis and images of cats riding missiles. Apple Intelligence.. The future is here! 😛
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If I understand right, you can generate images of your pets doing such things. If so, I think this is gonna be huge for the average user.

Edit: Maybe it's just people, not pets? Shame if so – I think the pet thing would be much more widely-used.
 
jarman92 said:
This is an insane take. Apple offering a feature that isn’t to your liking isn’t a “punishment.” And your lackadaisical attitude towards the serious problems generative AI will cause—and already is causing—is concerning.
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My take is crazy because I’m saying Apple could just add to the metadata of a digitally altered photo so people can see what is or isn’t genuine? I didn’t say that I hated what they are doing, but I did say it will probably be short lived.

What’s the difference between people photoshopping fake photos and using AI to do it? Simply because AI is available to far more people and takes less time to do than photoshop?

Don’t use generative AI then if it’s such a big problem that we have to immure people inside giant balls to protect them from it.

People can have fun, and just because someone could use it for nefarious reasons doesn’t mean other people shouldn’t be able to use it.
 
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TheDrakeMan said:
Apple should have allowed for realistic looking photos in Image Playground and just add to the metadata that it’s digitally altered. Cartoon like images will only be fun for a short period of time before most people forget it’s even on their phone.
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The problem with this is you can take a screenshot and that hides the metadata. They can put a watermark on the images, but they have AI tools online to remove watermarks.
 
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TheDrakeMan said:
My take is crazy because I’m saying Apple could just add to the metadata of a digitally altered photo so people can see what is or isn’t genuine? I didn’t say that I hated what they are doing, but I did say it will probably be short lived.
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Yes, because metadata is trivially easy to modify and/or delete. Nobody has developed a reliable system of IDing AI-generated images, and it causes (so far relatively minor) problems every day.

TheDrakeMan said:
What’s the difference between people photoshopping fake photos and using AI to do it? Simply because AI is available to far more people and takes less time to do than photoshop?
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Yes. A very small minority of people are adept enough at Photoshop to make convincing fakes; even fewer are willing/able to pay for the requisite software. Versus Apple giving the ability to make convincing fakes to literally tens of millions of people.

TheDrakeMan said:
Don’t use generative AI then if it’s such a big problem that we have to immure people inside giant balls to protect them from it.
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I don't. But unfortunately plenty of unscrupulous people do. Apple doesn't want to give those people even more tools to spread lies and deception, and they're 100% correct.

TheDrakeMan said:
People can have fun, and just because someone could use it for nefarious reasons doesn’t mean other people shouldn’t be able to use it.
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People can have fun and will have fun with Apple's decidedly cutesy version of generative AI. There's absolutely no reason for Apple to make them photorealistic, particularly since there are plenty of other tools out there already. And it kinda does mean that, especially where, as here, the risks and downsides far outweigh the marginal utility.
 
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TheDrakeMan said:
My take is crazy because I’m saying Apple could just add to the metadata of a digitally altered photo so people can see what is or isn’t genuine? I didn’t say that I hated what they are doing, but I did say it will probably be short lived.

What’s the difference between people photoshopping fake photos and using AI to do it? Simply because AI is available to far more people and takes less time to do than photoshop?

Don’t use generative AI then if it’s such a big problem that we have to immure people inside giant balls to protect them from it.

People can have fun, and just because someone could use it for nefarious reasons doesn’t mean other people shouldn’t be able to use it.
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Some of these commenters sound like the types of people that would have this used against them because they’re generally annoying and uptight about everything.

There’s far worse things people can do to embarrass or ridicule someone online than a cartoon generator.
 
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