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And who, I may ask, are you or frequent flyer Timothy Cook to determine for anyone else what this mystical, ineffable “right direction” is?
If it reduces energy use it is the right direction. If it uses non CO2 generating energy it is the right direction. Anything that generates more CO2 is worse than anything that generates less.
 
If it reduces energy use it is the right direction. If it uses non CO2 generating energy it is the right direction. Anything that generates more CO2 is worse than anything that generates less.
Sure, if you say so.

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Hopefully they include something to sort out the horrible notification system like giving us the choice not to have to swipe up to see the Notification Center.
Ummm there already is…change it in notification settings from stack to list..🤪
 
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Well, in this case it's one of those pretty obvious truths. Manufacturing any good has a pretty huge carbon footprint. It's basically always better to keep using what you already have than to buy new, even if the new thing is more efficient. I'm confident there is some data to back that up out there, but I don't have time to search for it right now.
That said, that doesn't make this update pointless. It's just a small step in the right direction which is better than no step in the right direction.
If they really cared about the environment, they wouldn’t release phones every single year…

So you’re suggesting apple should stop manufacturing phones on a year they dont release a new phone? Or is a new phone more environmentally destructive to manufacture. That’s all I was trying to get to.

Here’s what I mean:
Proposition: the design, development and manufacturing of new phones are bad for the environment.

Reasons/facts:
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Conclusion:
 
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If they really cared about the environment, they wouldn’t release phones every single year…
It totally depends on the location of the environment. They care more about where the thing is used than where it is made.
 
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Speaking of creepy and oppressive corporate greenwashing, do we yet know what ‘Carbon Analytics’ under Privacy > Location Services > System Services does?
I don’t know but thanks for posting this question as it just got toggled OFF on my phone. So, back to the clean energy charging. So riddle me this, if your new iPhone 14 running 16.1 decides it’s dirty-energy time on its on by default and doesn’t charge your phone and you take said phone out in BFE and need some of that dirty-energy charge to use new Satellite emergency technology to save your or your family members’ bacon and poof your new reduced carbon phone runs out of clean battery juice, it seems to me that the earth will have some new carbon deposited and not the gaseous kind. I’m not saying it’s not a good idea with possibly 1 billion iPhones running around, but dang; at least ask when introducing it so the dirty or clean user can become aware and toggle it then, rather than having it stuffed down our throats. This, I don’t think will end pretty, as it will psychologically have/cause the effect of shorter battery life and I can just vision the future class action suit harkening back to battery-gate. Ugggh.
 
That’s not how it works anymore. The phone knows to update BEFORE letting a user restore from backup. It’s slick and easy.
Right, but pretty sure the phone only updates to the latest public release if needed…not to a beta version. Or has that changed?
 
Does clean energy charging not require support from your local power company? How could it know this information?
 
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Im surprised that they released the public beta despite it having a major bug where you can't update your phone.

Im surprised they released iOS 16 at all considering even the widgets on the lockscreen still aren’t even updating properly for some, and a ton of other bugs too lol.
 
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there’s an issue with PiP 😩

It just greys out with a spinning wheel for me but the audio continues to play.
 
That millions of iPhones with active clean energy charging will make difference.

And you can sell your old iPhone to offset carbon emisdions of upgrading every year. So this feature does make sense.
No, it won’t. The impact will be an infinitesimal percentage of annual energy use. If every person on earth, 8 Billion, had an average 40 w-hour iPhone and charged every day to full capacity, total energy required would be less than 120 tera-watt-hours. The current annual energy production on earth is 170,000 tera-watt-hours, 140,000 tera-watt-hours of which is carbon fuel based energy, including biomass, coal, oil and natural gas. 120 tera-watt-hours is less than 0.09% of global energy production.

reference: https://ourworldindata.org/energy-production-consumption
 
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This Clean Charging is one of the dumbest things I ever heard of. If I plug my phone in to be charged it’s because I need it charged. Not whenever a certain percentage of a type of power generation is in use.

So to tell what’s being used it’s going to have to have access to Location. I also guess at times there’s no point in a fast charger.

Then what if I need to charge my phone in a hurry because of an emergency? It could be storm preps or a personal emergency. Or I could be having to run out and need a quick charge.

But for the sake of Clean Charge those of us in the real world better have some battery packs close by. Unless it doesn’t recognize those and they don’t work anymore. Fix it til it’s broke.
 
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Clean energy charging lol. It’s a phone not a mega yacht.

Imagine ‘caring’ about your carbon footprint for an iPhone while upgrading every single year and ignoring the carbon footprint in that device being produced and sent to you

Classic - bring on the downvotes!
I agree with you, but there's still nothing not to like about this feature, assuming you can turn it off. It's an improvement, nonetheless. These days, anything that helps climate change in any way, no matter how minuscule, is good news.
 
Multiply electrical consumption by millions of devices, and it adds up.

It's not just about your one device. Apple has over 1.8 billion active iOS devices, and this will have an even greater impact on world-wide energy grids as existing devices are updated and upgraded.
No it won’t. if everyone in the world used smart phone and charged it once a day, 365 days a year, total power consumption of all of them less than 0.1% of total annual energy production by carbon based fuels.
 
I usually know someone who needs a phone. I generally gift my old phone to someone when I buy a new one.

If I use power at 7:00PM where I live, it is likely to be wind generated. If I use it at 3:00PM, a good part of it is likely to be from a gas turbine. It's better to use power when the demand is low.

I think of it as education. I try not to use the AC, wash dishes, clothes or whatever when demand is high. Every little bit helps.

If you use power that generates one kg of CO2, but you do things that reduce the production of CO2 by two kg, you have effectively used negative one kg. Because of your actions, there is one less kilogram of CO2 in the air.
Better stop flying to holiday or to business trips, you save more CO2 than a car needs the whole year.


iPhones also have a huge footprint, if you count in the flight from china to around the world, all the fuel used to transport that little box to your hands.

Day one customers are badass environment polluter, better late order the iPhone and get your box per ship half a year later. Did you do this? 😀

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And while we are at this… we should stop having children, get your vasectomy ready. :D

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Apple releases new iPhones every year because of the money is there. Extending the release cycle is not going to make a meaningful difference in their carbon footprint. It just means that once every 2 years, you have twice as many people queuing up for their products (necessitating more production capacity).
Well, they could stop sending iPhones per planes around the world, just to satisfy tech vicious people. That would be a start.
 
Apple has produced two jokes in one day. Clean energy and eSim only phones.
It doesn't matter if Tim charges my phone in the morning, noon, night or whatever time he wants. It's still coming of the same energy grid. That is unless Apple is including a mini windmill in their new environmentally friendly box.
Now that would be extra Clean energy.
No joke, this has been subject of lots of assessment already.


It *does matter* when devices are charged.

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