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Apple Releases iCloud 12.5 for Windows With iCloud Keychain Password Manager App
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In my humble opinion better not. I used it back in the days because it was revolutionary, but these days I would not switch to it.
First of all I am not so fond of their current Apple offering on Windows, aka iTunes. It is a nightmare - slow, buggy, awful audio service integration (choosing the right option should allow audio routing to switch as you plug in headsets or go to speakers, but for me it just doesn’t work unless I restart iTunes with the new configuration active)
And when it comes to Windows browsers, both Firefox and Brave are excellent options. Even Edge is a very good alternative these days.
On Mac and iOS Safari feels most native, but I do like that on the Mac Edge and other chromium based browsers allow me to run YouTube and other sites as PWA installations. So, really not a strong Safari user any longer.
Speaking of irony, since we're on the subject of Microsoft I find it strange that you're speaking as if this a one-way street. Microsoft continually screws the Mac community when it comes to Office. There are STILL features on the Windows version that have not made it to MacOS and the Windows version still runs better. Oh did I mention the Mac version still costs the same as the Windows version but with a lesser experience? SMH. People aren't paying to use browsers. 🙄
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I just tried again and I still can’t get it to send me a code. I have tried reinstalling. I have tried removing the extension. I’ve tried everything I can think of. It’s frustrating.
I can use Keychain in Chrome on a Windows machine... But not in Chrome on my brand new MacBook Pro...
I have to use Chrome for my work applications, and it is annoying to no end to have to use Chrome's crappy password handling instead of the Keychain that is literally built in to my OS. I get a reminder every time I open Chrome that the iCloud password extension is only for Windows. I hate this simple oversight almost as much as another simple oversight - no "Duplicate tab" option in Safari.
I have to use Chrome for my work applications, and it is annoying to no end to have to use Chrome's crappy password handling instead of the Keychain that is literally built in to my OS. I get a reminder every time I open Chrome that the iCloud password extension is only for Windows. I hate this simple oversight almost as much as another simple oversight - no "Duplicate tab" option in Safari.
It's a shame that Safari bookmarks can't be synced to a Windows browser. They're effectively stuck unless you fork out a thousand bucks for a MacBook, from which then you can export bookmarks.
How come no one is talking about how this iCloud keychain password manager app appears to be using XAML/UWP?!
How come no one is talking about how this iCloud keychain password manager app appears to be using XAML/UWP?!
Same here. I had an open line with Apple support and them with their iCloud engineers for months now and there is no solution still.
Why? Even on MacOS and iOS people choose another option like Firefox, Brave, and Edge.
do you just guess with zero data?
majority of iOS people use stock Safari. US government released data from all participating sites: https://analytics.usa.gov/data/live/os-browsers.json
From this data: only 9% of iOS users use Chrome on the iPhone. This is data from the past 90 days, accumulating 2 billion hits.
As an iOS and windows user (i can't stand macs) this is really great news. I've been signing up for things on my phone and when i've wanted to hop onto my PC or laptop, i've ended up just using teams and FB messenger to someone with
"ignore this message. 899s-asdh-23fs-DSHS" just as it was the easiest way to clipboard the password from my phone to the PC. Composing an email or using onenote, is too time consuming and fiddly.
"ignore this message. 899s-asdh-23fs-DSHS" just as it was the easiest way to clipboard the password from my phone to the PC. Composing an email or using onenote, is too time consuming and fiddly.
nope.
Re-read my statement. I said even people who use iOS and Mac still choose another browser over Safari. If you look at the stats you provided you will see that my claim is true. I didn't say no one that uses iOS and Mac uses Safari. In addition, people use Safari and MacOS because its the default browser them same reason Google pays billions to Apple to make them the default search engine.
My question is why would you want Safari for Windows? Its main benefit is that it is integrated in the MacOS very well which doesn't matter on Windows or Android.
I can see someone would like a Safari version if he is an iOS and Windows user and want to sync but for most people they will only choose Chrome, Brave, FF, or Edge that can already do this.
What qualifying detail does saying "iOS" provide over just saying "Mac people"? Your statement suggested there's a substantial number of iOS users who are also Mac users that prefer a different browser on iOS. This is not true.
Nowhere did I say Safari dominates Mac. Everyone knows Safari has a small marketshare on desktop. This is obvious.
Stats show Safari dominates iOS which goes against your suggestion from your statement.
Because Chrome hogs memory and doesn't provide the energy efficiency of Safari. And clicking on the Apple Sign In button on Windows pops up a new page where I have to manually type in my Apple ID instead of providing an easy way to authenticate who I am.
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I edited my post to correct the typos but kept the original as it was too funny to delete out. Thank you. Needed this lol.
Edge that’s why. It’s late to the game and is very strangely customized. Maybe when a future update latest this year fully purged Internet explorer maybe then we’ll get that support.
You’re not the only one. I’ve noticed this on several iterations of HP EliteBook 840 laptops G5-G7’s. Chipsets and drivers for each model has changed and somehow Windows 10 1909 build or newer has issues with this. Not the only software either.
I did not say Safari does not dominate iOS, I said even people who use iOS and Mac still choose a different browser as in "a group of people who opt to buy iPhone and not Android, and Mac not Windows choose a different browser over Safari" This is why I asked why you specifically ask for Safari on Windows.
Safari is only effecient on the Mac, having Safari on Windows will not necessarily yield similar results. Chrome is a memory hog, but FF, Edge, and Brave might not be.
Personally, its not 2002 any more and Apple doesn't need to have its own browser. FF, Brave and Chrome can do the heavy lifting. I understand Microsoft keeping Edge because they want to suck that data and benefit from it somehow, but I just do not see why Apple keeps their own browser...they can if they want, I just do not see a reason.
Not specifically, but your statement suggested it or at least left room for that interpretation due to the ambiguity.
Again, "A different browser over Safari" could mean a browser on the phone. You're including phones in the discussion which could mean iOS users choose a different browser on their phones and Mac users choose a different browser on their desktops rather than iOS and Mac users cumulatively choose a different *desktop* browser. It's ambiguous.
You have no idea if that is true. It won't be as efficient as on the Mac, but it could certainly not cause my laptop fans to spin up on a blank page, something that FF, Brave, and Chrome do (have not tried Edge)
And Safari could be the most memory efficient of all.
- A native Apple Sign In dialog box would be a reason. I regret using Apple Sign In for many accounts as opposed to just using a standard account since 1Password on Windows can log me in faster than using web based Apple Sign In.
- Apple Pay via confirmation on iPhone/Apple Watch (which wouldn't require extra hardware on the PC) would be another.
- Syncing bookmarks don't work between Chrome (via iCloud BookmarksApple extension) and Safari.
The first two reasons are huge sticky experiences for Apple. It makes perfect sense for Apple to develop Safari for Windows.
I have this latest version on both my desktop and laptop. One thing that had been (and still kinda is) missing is the .mov for all the live photos. On my laptop, I now do have both the .heic and .mov for each live photo, but on my desktop, I only have the .heic. I'd really like to know how to get iCloud to sync the .mov on my desktop.
Up until recently, the .heic for pictures taken with an iPhone 12 that were downloaded via iCloud for windows were down res to a quarter of the 12mp image, but only for iPhone 12 images, not anything taken with iPad. The photos version has been a bit of a mess lately, and when I saw the live photo .mov show up on my laptop, I thought they'd finally fixed everything... but no, still issues on my desktop.
Edit: Turns out, not all live photos on my laptop sync, only some. So, I'm going to call live photos on iCloud for Windows as still broken. No where near stable enough to use as a way to make sure you have a local backup of your photos (which is super frustrating since even Apple acknowledges iCloud isn't a backup, and it's not).
Up until recently, the .heic for pictures taken with an iPhone 12 that were downloaded via iCloud for windows were down res to a quarter of the 12mp image, but only for iPhone 12 images, not anything taken with iPad. The photos version has been a bit of a mess lately, and when I saw the live photo .mov show up on my laptop, I thought they'd finally fixed everything... but no, still issues on my desktop.
Edit: Turns out, not all live photos on my laptop sync, only some. So, I'm going to call live photos on iCloud for Windows as still broken. No where near stable enough to use as a way to make sure you have a local backup of your photos (which is super frustrating since even Apple acknowledges iCloud isn't a backup, and it's not).
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I understand that Apple's iCloud Passwords extension for Chrome provides access to passwords stored in your iCloud Keychain, and I know that it saves any new passwords you create in Chrome back to your iCloud Keychain.
Taking it one step farther, does it merely "provide access" to passwords in the Keychain, or does it actually sync Keychain passwords to Chrome? (I think I know the answer, but I thought I'd ask before trying to build a test environment.)
Taking it one step farther, does it merely "provide access" to passwords in the Keychain, or does it actually sync Keychain passwords to Chrome? (I think I know the answer, but I thought I'd ask before trying to build a test environment.)