Apple Releases iOS 11.4 With Messages in iCloud and AirPlay 2

[posguy99]

And you lose your phone or it breaks, then what? All those photos are gone.

Deservedly so. If they were important, they'd be backed up. iCloud Photo Library isn't a backup.

 

[DaveTheRave]

A pop up window appeared and closed so quickly I could not read it.

Now that I’ve enabled it, is it backing up my local Messages to the cloud? How can I tell?

 

[bwintx]

For those of you who've been using the beta: how long does it take for all your devices with the same OS to get the messages? My iPhone has messages going back to 2014, when I got my first iPhone, and I'm waiting for them to show up on the iPad but no luck yet. Thought I'd at least see them populating, but so far not so. Have got it turned on on both devices, 2FA long ago enabled, etc.

 

[WannaGoMac]

And you lose your phone or it breaks, then what? All those photos are gone.

I also like it because when I get a new iPhone, I always set up as new. I turn on iCloud photos, and all my photos are there. No need to set up from back up

I love seeing people who come into the one shop I work at “you can’t save my photos?, this is the only spot I had them!” And their photos are gone forever.

Use iTunes and backup the iphone (or use iCloud backup) which restores all photos and messages etc.

 

[saintstryfe]

Installing now

 

[Frado]

How do you know if messages in the cloud is fully synced? Just enabled it but don't see a progress bar or whatsoever.
*edit: nvm , you have to go to the messages app to see the progress, stupid me

 

[tomaszk]

For what it’s worth, I just uninstalled my PB profile, then shut down my iPad and iPhone, rebooted, then the official 11:4 release appeared for download.

 

[Razeus]

I'll wait for 11.4.1

 

[Skoal]

Don’t need message in the cloud or photo library when I have 256gb tbh don’t see the point

I kind of agree. The only reason I care about MITC is the ability to delete a message on one device and have it removed from all devices but it doesn’t even do that reliably. At least not as of the last beta anyway.

 

[Arty6]

ANybody knows if it fixes all the bugs of 11.3.1 on iPhone 7 ?

Yes. I tested it 10 minutes ago. All of the bugs are gone. For all previous releases and for all devices that use iOS. All the bugs. Gone. Completely bug-less. No bugs. Thank goodness. No more bugs.

 

[HailstormX]

Don’t need message in the cloud or photo library when I have 256gb tbh don’t see the point

I think the messages in the cloud will be helpful. I like to restore my device with a fresh copy of iOS its nice to actually have message history and to have it sync across devices. Its not about saving storage for me.

 

[Mr. Heckles]

Deservedly so. If they were important, they'd be backed up. iCloud Photo Library isn't a backup.

https://m.imore.com/how-to-back-up-icloud-photo-library
“Apple's iCloud Photo Libary service works flawlessly to sync and back up your images and video to iCloud”

It’s better than not having anytjing at all. I go one step further and once all photos are downloaded to my MacBook, then back that up.

 

[iapplelove]

I still have yet to activate or find a use for Apple Pay cash, so the fact that iMessage in the cloud took this look to come out doesn’t bother me one bit lol

 

[bbednarz]

hm.. phone storage got bigger (entry level 32gb on the SE) but the free icloud storage is still stuck at 5GB, and we're suppoused to upload the iMessages as well??

then don't enable it. it is not forcing you to use messages in the cloud.

 

[jsmith189]

This may just be assumed, but there’s also a HomePod update through the Home app lol.

 

[fozz3d]

I really hope this update will speed up Safari on my watch!!!

 

[Mr. Heckles]

Use iTunes and backup the iphone (or use iCloud backup) which restores all photos and messages etc.

Yeah... I also said in the same post that when I get a new iPhone, I always set up as new. I get my new iPhone (or iPad), log into my iCloud account, and all of my photos are there.

 

[neliason]

Two things concerning iMessages. I’ve yet to see anything on security. The old way iMessages worked was end to end encryption with a message composed for each Apple device. How does the new method keep messages secure both in transit and when stored?

Also, do you have to turn on the message archiving to get messages to delete across devices? Or can you just turn on the deleting across device feature. I really only want messages to be deleted. I don’t want Apple to archive all my messages.

 

[1050792]

Better wait for 11.4.2 to fix the mess of 11.4.1 while trying to fixing 11.4

 

[Skoal]

Changes made on one device apply to all. The server keeps everything in sync and your devices all present the same view.

Except through every beta to this point it hasn’t worked as advertised. Often, when I power up my MBP and open messages old messages that have been deleted on other devices will remain in the MacBook. Even after hitting the “sync now” tab in preferences.

 

[redman042]

Will this also give you access to the Messages app in icloud.com (in the browser)?

 

[Konigi]

I'm so glad it finally came! Was looking for it every day recently. Only one year late!

p.s.: no news of macOS update?

 

[sonicrobby]

Yay! Finally iMessages in the cloud! Ive been waiting a year for this feature to be released... Cant wait to see what iOS 12 has to offer next week

 

[GuillaumeB]

That's a feature. It's called the TimeToGetMoreMoneyFromGuillaumeBsWife function. It's a common feature across iOS devices, apparently with some cutting-edge customizations to make it unique to each user but still lead to the same outcome. It can manifest in many different ways but all of them are designed to point one to an Apple store.
(...)

I'm well aware of planned obsolescence but this usually happens on a major upgrade not a .x update

 

[tooloud10]

Not sure if anyone's realized yet, but on this version of iOS it's actually possible to download and install the update without telling everyone.