Sir_Macs_A_Lot
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That makes sense. I guess after waiting this long...one more month won't hurt. Thanks.
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Apple Releases iOS 15.3.1 and iPadOS 15.3.1 With Security Updates and Bug Fixes
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Black Magic
macrumors 68030
Go to Android. I prefer updates and OS upgrades as often as I can especially when I have a choice to upgrade or not. With Android you are lucky if you get updates without buying a new phone to get the latest updates.
ChronicLynx
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Obviously you do not comprehend this if you think that slowing down the pace of iOS updates will fix the need for frequent security patches.
I think you failed to comprehend what I wrote. I said major iOS releases. If they took their time with those, we’d need less pita updates.
CarlJ
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They generally do, if you click through to the security updates (or if you’re on the mailing list where they send them out - that’s often where I first hear of new OS updates).
jmgregory1
macrumors 68040
Those days are long gone. I still remember ordering updates for MacOS (in floppy and then cd-rom form) and you wouldn’t see any minor or major fixes until the next big update. Today, a company like Apple has to update for vulnerabilities that could get them in trouble and if they’re going to do that, then why not fix a few other minor issues at the same time.
Would you really prefer to wait until a major update (done yearly) to get things like FaceID unlock with mask, or the current FaceID unlock with Watch? I know I’ll happily update anytime there is one available.
nutmac
macrumors 603
And there's no such thing as a bug-free operating system.
We can criticize Apple for releasing a buggy OS release (e.g., iOS 13.0). But we should not criticize Apple for releasing security and bug fixes in a timely manner.
At no point did I say they shouldn’t fix vulnerabilities as they are found, I simple pointed out that their release schedule invites their very existence in the first place. Some not all. It’s really rather basic and surely we haven’t all drank the kool aid that much.
Not a single major iOS feature in the last 3 major updates has launched fully realized. Security holes are just one extension of that mentality. Using your example face mask unlocking is still hit and miss.
Did I say bug free? Furthermore I didn’t criticize them for the fixes; I criticized them for their role in the need for the fixes in the first place. There is a distinction.
Anything about this update fixing dropped phone calls -- which I never got on my iPhone 13 Pro until iOS15?
Nice going Apple! An update with its main feature being a fix for a bug that directly affects me.
This was a recent bug that caused people using Braille to have their displays frequently disconnect which also caused their devices to freeze. While I haven't seen this a lot myself, other people who use Braille more than I do are quite upset. Some people say they have to restart their devices to fix it, which sometimes isn't easy when you lose all accessible feedback. Imagine your iPad display going completely black at random whenever you connected your magic keyboard, and you had to restart one or both devices to get things working again. From what others have said that's essentially the equivalent of what's been going on. The mainstream wouldn't stand for that and there would be an update that fixed that within days.
People forget that while one issue might seem insignifficant to one person, it could mean the difference between being able to use your phone at all to someone else. And if you are one of those people affected, you don't want to hear about how small the group is; you just want the issue resolved. See also the butterfly keyboard issues and how it's no longer on any new Macs.
This was a recent bug that caused people using Braille to have their displays frequently disconnect which also caused their devices to freeze. While I haven't seen this a lot myself, other people who use Braille more than I do are quite upset. Some people say they have to restart their devices to fix it, which sometimes isn't easy when you lose all accessible feedback. Imagine your iPad display going completely black at random whenever you connected your magic keyboard, and you had to restart one or both devices to get things working again. From what others have said that's essentially the equivalent of what's been going on. The mainstream wouldn't stand for that and there would be an update that fixed that within days.
People forget that while one issue might seem insignifficant to one person, it could mean the difference between being able to use your phone at all to someone else. And if you are one of those people affected, you don't want to hear about how small the group is; you just want the issue resolved. See also the butterfly keyboard issues and how it's no longer on any new Macs.
It much take so much effort. Automatic updates and continue your life.
Rather I'd like Apple to further harden it's apps and OS so we don't need a big update when another use-after-free issue is found.
You haven't heard of Microsoft? They quite literally have a patch Tuesday where they release patches every single week and have done for as long as I can remember.
CVE's are coming out daily, which requires almost constant updates to keep secure. Blame our extremely complex OS's but it's a reality that affects Windows, Linux, Unix, Mac all the same. I have no issue with regular updates providing they don't break anything.
I actually agree with the major OS every two years. Perhaps a tick/tock cadence with feature/polish. I seriously doubt this would drive iPhone sales.
nattK
macrumors 6502a
What do you mean "never got until iOS 15"?? The iPhone 13 Pro literally ships with iOS 15 from the get-go.
Exactly, set your iPhone to auto update and it'll take care of it whilst you sleep. Apple has the most painless update process I've ever come across.
Windows has a habit of updating at awkward times.
Linux requires work to auto-update. Hell I SSH into my Pi to update it by command line. So much easier on iOS.
jakeuten
macrumors regular
Your iPhone 13 Pro launched with iOS 15. Could it be a hardware problem?
podycust
macrumors 6502
Same error from iTunes for Windows for both iPad and iPhone. Thinking I might need an iTunes update, I clicked on "check for updates" in iTunes and got "The iTunes update server could not be contacted."
Edit: 4:13 PM: now able to update from iTunes.
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Vulnerabilities are discovered in apps, software, operating systems, etc. etc. all day every day. Some of them minor, some of them MAJROR. You should appreciate the frequent updates.
You're right... typo... I should have said not until after the iOS 15.3 update. A hardware problem is not impossible. But I don't think so. Anyway... I have 15.3.1 installed now. We'll see.
I updated and I can't restart my iphone 12 now with power button. When I long press the power button Siri pops up!! I was always using it to restart my phone.
I found something in Accessibity under the side button but it doesn't even have the option to restart the phone.
Long pressing the side button was the normal way to restart since I owned an iphone. I dont understand why this behavior changed with this update at least for me.
On top of that Safari is super slow. I deactivated all my content blockers and it is still super slow. 10 minute ago before the update , everything was working normally.
Finally, my safari address bar was on bottom and it moved to the top!
Any help please?
I found something in Accessibity under the side button but it doesn't even have the option to restart the phone.
Long pressing the side button was the normal way to restart since I owned an iphone. I dont understand why this behavior changed with this update at least for me.
On top of that Safari is super slow. I deactivated all my content blockers and it is still super slow. 10 minute ago before the update , everything was working normally.
Finally, my safari address bar was on bottom and it moved to the top!
Any help please?
jmgregory1
macrumors 68040
In a world where malicious / nefarious actors are constantly releasing threats, it’s impossible to have an OS built that addresses every possible issue, which is why they have to keep doing small updates. And as far as mask unlocking, it has worked perfectly for those with Watches, since that was added between major iOS releases. This new version may not work perfectly now, which is why it’s part of the beta, so they can continue to develop it. We’ll likely see it launched before the next major iOS release, if I had to make an educated guess. If Apple went by your desired release, we’d be waiting until Sept-Nov timeframe for this feature, which makes no sense if it’s ready to go March 1.