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Please allow me to disagree.. I was turning off the phone all this time by the side button! This stopped with this update. Maybe it was like that for users that don't use Siri like me, but I was doing it like this for years.

And as far as I know Siri doesn't even exist in many languages. It would be non sense to have a useless side button on the side in this case.
I have to agree with the guy that responded to you.

Pressing only the side button has not been shutting down the iPhone for years.

Here's a video from 2019
 
I have to agree with the guy that responded to you.

Pressing only the side button has not been shutting down the iPhone for years.

Here's a video from 2019
Thank you very much for your reply. My intention is not to disagree and I do listen the members here as they are more tech savvy than me. But from my experience that wasn't the behavior before at least with my iphone - I don't know what happens in countries where Siri is activated but at least in my phone that I don't even have Siri I was only long pressing the side button all the time to restart my device. I do have to deactivate my phone on a daily basis.

I have seen the apple instructions on their web site and the mention exactly what you are telling me. Initially I thought they updated their website until I got the replies from user forums.

Going to settings -> Accessibility -> Side button -> there are three options there (Siri, Off, Classic Voice control) .. I don't know what the options were before the update. Do you think there could be an option to turn off iphone? I really don't know.

Having the side button for Siri where Siri doesn't work in many countries isn't logical from my point of view.
 
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Please allow me to disagree.. I was turning off the phone all this time by the side button! This stopped with this update. Maybe it was like that for users that don't use Siri like me, but I was doing it like this for years.

And as far as I know Siri doesn't even exist in many languages. It would be non sense to have a useless side button on the side in this case.
I had also forgotten about the change — perhaps it is because we no longer need to force shut down our iDevices (or at least only extremely rarely).

Anyway…

Published shortly after iPhone X launch:

Published on iPhone X announcement, last updated 2019:

I found something in Accessibity under the side button but it doesn't even have the option to restart the phone.
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Any help please?
 
I had also forgotten about the change — perhaps it is because we no longer need to force shut down our iDevices (or at least only extremely rarely).

Anyway…

Published shortly after iPhone X launch:

Published on iPhone X announcement, last updated 2019:


Once again thanks a lot for the replies. I wasn't talking about force restart (if this is what you mean) but a regular shut down. I have also read some of those links and they are verifying exactly what you're saying.

I don't know what to say.. I really remember till yesterday, long pressing the side button bringing the slide menu that shuts down my iphone. When I had to shut down my iphone last night after the update, it was the first time all those years that I saw Siri!!! :)

I will start shutting it down with the combination as you are showing me on your links. Thanks a lot!
 
Thank you very much for your reply. My intention is not to disagree and I do listen the members here as they are more tech savvy than me. But from my experience that wasn't the behavior before at least with my iphone - I don't know what happens in countries where Siri is activated but at least in my phone that I don't even have Siri I was only long pressing the side button all the time to restart my device. I do have to deactivate my phone on a daily basis.

I have seen the apple instructions on their web site and the mention exactly what you are telling me. Initially I thought they updated their website until I got the replies from user forums.

Going to settings -> Accessibility -> Side button -> there are three options there (Siri, Off, Classic Voice control) .. I don't know what the options were before the update. Do you think there could be an option to turn off iphone? I really don't know.

Having the side button for Siri where Siri doesn't work in many countries isn't logical from my point of view.
If I disabled Siri and tried the button it would prompt me to turn siri on (first time) and does nothing from the second time on.

I think it's for consistency, I mean it would be silly to have different ways to turn off the phone in different counties, so i mean commonality here wins.

So I don't think there's an option for that.
 
Yea, and not expecting them to not rush out software riddled with bugs in the first place…
What makes you think the security vulnerabilities that get fixed haven't been there for years? No "rush" involved, except to fix the vulnerability once it has been discovered. (The discoveries are often made by 3rd parties, and part of the mechanism is that the discovery becomes public after the software vendors have had time to fix them.)
 
What makes you think the security vulnerabilities that get fixed haven't been there for years? No "rush" involved, except to fix the vulnerability once it has been discovered. (The discoveries are often made by 3rd parties, and part of the mechanism is that the discovery becomes public after the software vendors have had time to fix them.)

What does the age of the vulnerability have to do with Apple’s culpability in its existence? It’s their software.

Again, not making the point you think you are. Nobody expects them to be perfect but it’s foolish to deny or ignore the downward trajectory in quality control over the last half decade in their software development. You can be a fan of something and still have criticisms. It’s ok.
 
If I disabled Siri and tried the button it would prompt me to turn siri on (first time) and does nothing from the second time on.

I think it's for consistency, I mean it would be silly to have different ways to turn off the phone in different counties, so i mean commonality here wins.

So I don't think there's an option for that.
But what if Siri doesn't even exist in the country? There is side button that does nothing. And how can it be a consistency among countries where there will be users in some countries that pretty much have a dead side button when long pressed. At least there should be offered the option to have the button work like in previous versions for consistency (my personal experience)..

I think it would be helpful to have the feedback of users from countries where Siri doesn't exist. I really recall that the behavior was different until the latest version.

One again thanks for the feedback - I don't want to derail the conversation to the side button :)
 
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Must be an undisclosed zero day for this update to come out without warning.
Not so undisclosed. Recently there were news that the Apple devices of people in Hong Kong were attacked. The attacker could take complete control after just visiting some website. The details were analyzed by a security firm.
 
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It’s unlikely higher version (maybe except for .x.x version like 15.3 -> 15.3.1) will be faster than the lower one, especially in old / entry level iPhone. So, I would suggest, if no critical bugs, would be better to stay with whatever version you had already.

I've done that in the past, but nowadays I'm kind of forced to follow the lastest iOS. Homekit is one and some of the apps of service providers (banks and others) demand the lastest iOS update.
But... honestly, my SE works fine for most of the day. It just has its random moments when it's slow and unresponsive when I pick it up. Maybe its network (iCloud) related, I don't know. It was kind of refreshing after the battery was replaced. The UI was very responsive again, almost like brand new out of the box. That lasted about two weeks.
Now I'm on 15.3.1 and so far so good.
 
No idea if this update is "indexing" or what, iPhone 13 Pro Max battery drained big time overnight after updating yesterday to 15.3.1. I always leave it off the charger overnight, low power mode and wake up to 100%, or 98%...been like this for months and perfectly normal I think.

This morning after the usual 7 hours of sleep, I wake up to 81%. Battery setting shows nothing running on the bar charts. No apps open. It does say "SIRI" and FIND MY NETWORK" was constantly running in the background though. I've seen this before, but it never dropped my battery 20% overnight.

These updates, I appreciate them...but they can make me (and my phone) mental! ?
 
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Is it(whatever it may be) ready to go though? That’s the question. And for the last few years at least, nothing they launch is ready to go. Hell I can list you known software issues going back 5 years now on macOS we are still waiting for fixes on.

And no the mask unlocking has not worked reliably; even with Apple Watch.
Have you ever worked for a company that produced and sold anything? Do you really think that any company releases products only after they hit a point of perfection? Imagine all the scenarios that are already tested for software to be released, but I would bet there are millions of points Apple, and any other company out there, just can’t be expected to test and resolve issues on, prior to releasing software or hardware. As a company, you have to get to a certain point where you’re providing a good UX for the majority of users, and then as issues come to light, either fringe problems or widespread, address them in updates.

In regards to FaceID with Watch unlock, I can’t say that I’ve followed any threads about it not working, mainly because I (and my wife) have had zero issues. I get that I’m a single data point with this, but it’s also not something I’m seeing articles pop up about huge failures happening with it, so I’m guessing that just as I noted above, there are likely scenarios where it isn’t working, or isn’t working smoothly, or isn’t working all the time.

I’ve had Mail issues with iPadOS on my M1 iPad Pro going back a few iPadOS releases, started a thread about it and only have a handful of people experiencing the same thing, with Apple not even knowing how to resolve the issue, so far, so I am one of those people on the fringe experiencing an issue that doesn’t effect the majority of people, but in your scenario of Apple needing to wait to release software until it’s perfect, it would mean that everyone would be waiting for an update because Apple hasn’t fixed a problem that effects a very specific and small number of users. Again, you can swap out Apple’s name and use Google or Microsoft, or any software producer and get exactly the same experience.
 
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Have you ever worked for a company that produced and sold anything? Do you really think that any company releases products only after they hit a point of perfection? Imagine all the scenarios that are already tested for software to be released, but I would bet there are millions of points Apple, and any other company out there, just can’t be expected to test and resolve issues on, prior to releasing software or hardware. As a company, you have to get to a certain point where you’re providing a good UX for the majority of users, and then as issues come to light, either fringe problems or widespread, address them in updates.

In regards to FaceID with Watch unlock, I can’t say that I’ve followed any threads about it not working, mainly because I (and my wife) have had zero issues. I get that I’m a single data point with this, but it’s also not something I’m seeing articles pop up about huge failures happening with it, so I’m guessing that just as I noted above, there are likely scenarios where it isn’t working, or isn’t working smoothly, or isn’t working all the time.

I’ve had Mail issues with iPadOS on my M1 iPad Pro going back a few iPadOS releases, started a thread about it and only have a handful of people experiencing the same thing, with Apple not even knowing how to resolve the issue, so far, so I am one of those people on the fringe experiencing an issue that doesn’t effect the majority of people, but in your scenario of Apple needing to wait to release software until it’s perfect, it would mean that everyone would be waiting for an update because Apple hasn’t fixed a problem that effects a very specific and small number of users. Again, you can swap out Apple’s name and use Google or Microsoft, or any software producer and get exactly the same experience.

A) Didn’t say it had to be perfect; just pointed out the obivious that Apple quality control and insistence on rushing software out leads to more security risks and other issues.

B) Of course other companies have the same issue. Knocking Apple doesn’t mean I’m instantly saying the others are better. That’s fanboy crap.
 
You’d know Apple I would try iOS 15 if you start signing iOS 14.8.1 with a downloadable ipsw file. But since your not going to I’ll stay on iOS 14 until iOS 16 is released the next day.
 
I have a perhaps silly question about security updates.

Apple's accompanying security support document explains that software addresses a WebKit bug that could allow maliciously crafted web content to lead to arbitrary code execution.

Let's say this code has already been executed on my device. Does the update 'fix it'? Or does it only prevent more devices from being hit with said code? Thanks!
 


Apple today released iOS 15.3.1 and iPadOS 15.3.1, two minor updates to the iOS and iPadOS operating systems released in September 2021. iOS and iPadOS 15.3.1 come two weeks after the release of iOS and iPadOS 15.3.

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The iOS 15.3.1 and iPadOS 15.3.1 updates can be downloaded for free and the software is available on all eligible devices over-the-air in the Settings app. To access the new software, go to Settings > General > Software Update.

According to Apple's release notes, iOS 15.3.1 and iPadOS 15.3.1 fix an issue that could cause Braille displays to stop responding. The updates also provide important security fixes for the iPhone and the iPad. Apple's accompanying security support document explains that software addresses a WebKit bug that could allow maliciously crafted web content to lead to arbitrary code execution.

Apple says that it is aware of a report that the vulnerability may have been actively exploited, so it is important for iPhone and iPad users to update to the new iOS 15.3.1 and iPadOS 15.3.1 as soon as possible.

Article Link: Apple Releases iOS 15.3.1 and iPadOS 15.3.1 With Security Updates and Bug Fixes
This update broke my connection to my mac, prior to this update, my connection to backup to my mac, it reports back it is not connected. Now I can only do OTA backups of the iCloud.
 
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Don't do it..... just bricked my wife's iPhone 12 with this update. Now I have to go get it "UnBricked". Flaming POS update.

UPDATE: What a PITA. So Apple stores were busy so had to go to Best Buy. They were able to force a reset. Didn't know this but after iPhone 8 all models no longer have a hard reset button. All of the buttons require software to be working to be functional. What genius thought that was a good idea???? NOT.
 
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Exactly, set your iPhone to auto update and it'll take care of it whilst you sleep. Apple has the most painless update process I've ever come across.

Windows has a habit of updating at awkward times.

Linux requires work to auto-update. Hell I SSH into my Pi to update it by command line. So much easier on iOS.
That advice doesn't work for many. What I am writing below is true for many users that I talk to. Auto update does work for the majority of users, but it doesn't work for a large minority.

My phone is set to auto update. Every single iPhone and iPad in this household is set to auto update. Auto update has worked once, on one iPad. The update will be announced and we all get messages that the update will be installed overnight. The update won't be installed however. Apple support has no clue and has given up on trying to fix this. Btw, this has been the case since auto update was first introduced. For test, I have tried to not do the update manually on one of my iPad's. After two months, the update still wasn't installed.
 
Remember when the Apple world was making joke of Microsoft's Windows constant updates... welcome to their world. This is getting out of hand... and these updates are bricking so many phones!
It is very bad that some people's phones don't work after updates. But a hard reset isn't the end of the world. I wouldn't even call that a bricked phone. It's bad, but it isn't the end of the world. Now, if DFU is needed, that is beyond most people's skill set, and I would call that bricked. But needing DFU is really the exception.
 
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