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According to apples description of the update, they label it as “rare”. It can’t be that rare if they pushed out an update that fast for all users. Damage control and story spin is well underway

Of course it can be rare. If a rare bug has (or can have) serious consequences for users or Apple, they'll push it out.
 
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How do you know that Reddit poster’s claim was fake? Did he say he made it up?
Well:

1. He was the only person that has experienced that bug.
2. He responded by stating that he works as a tech support, while his other reddit posts from only a couple months ago says he's in college in a completely different unrelated field.
3. He stopped replying comments of people who were actually trying to help him, and at the end, he deleted the post.

Someone in the comments that actually works for tech support, said this:

One of the rules of troubleshooting is never take what a user says at face value. They swear up and down they rebooted the computer? Don't take that at face value, dig a little further with a couple questions, and you find out all they did was turn the monitor off and back on.”
 
But why would Apple bring awareness to an issue to millions of iPhone users in the form of an immediate software update where this is listed as the only bug it addresses in response to a single Reddit post?

It wouldn't. The Reddit post in question claimed their photos reappeared on a phone they erased, reset, and sold. Every other report involved photos reappearing on the same device/iCloud account, which is what this update addresses.
 
Hmm not sure if this is Apple admitting to the bug that causes photos to reappear on you’d old wiped and sold devices or not? But it IS an admittance that Apple does NOT actually delete your photos when you ask them to! There pretty poor id you ask me.
 
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It is, yes

All this deflection and distraction on other points, but the key thing is..

If I want one of my photos deleted, Apple needs to delete it

End of story

Neither Apple or iOS deletes your photos immediately. Apple says it can take up to 40 days depending on a few factors.

In this case I'm pretty sure it wasn't a deletion bug, but an instance where photos was (logically) stored several places. Thus the photos were never deleted because they were still active for at least one part of iOS or app.
 
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I mean .. what kind of comments do you think you're going to find in a thread on this type of topic?

All the bugs in Apple software is what I find tedious!
Are we really going to do this? The stable releases don’t have “all these bugs”. This is one bug that one Reddit user documented. The media had a field day with it, queue the worldwide outrage. They fixed it within a few days. It had no effect on me and I seriously doubt it had an effect on you either, or in any of the folks who have filled up eight pages and counting with snarky comments.

But by all means, you’re perfectly entitled to comment about it here all you like. I’m also entitled to respond with my views too. Peace!
 
So they just going to ignore the photos returning as a bug? It’s just an oops?! That’s not good enough. So are photos deleted or not? We want details not a note on an update screen.
Exactly. I'm not sure I understand this "bug". When we delete the photos and those photos are either past the 30-day window or we indicate "delete forever", we expect those photos to be truly deleted forever and not able to return no matter what.

So is this "fix" actually just covering up a feature in which while the user thinks it's deleted forever, it's actually still living in iCloud for a very long time and could be un-erased by administration? That's not acceptable, if that's the case.
 
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100% of freak-out comments here are not even brown noise...
Falling in line and not questioning anything Apple does is beyond silly. Most of these comments aren't freak outs. They have very valid concerns over a very strange incident. These aren't conspiracy theories. They are rooted in the shady behavior Apple has exhibited in the past. Apple doesn't tend to admit anything until they've been caught redhanded. They are not a moral company. They've actively fought against bills that would reduce slave labor in China. Any "privacy" related services have been stripped from iPhones in China. Apple has moved all of their iCloud servers in relation to Chinese citizens to China so the CCP can have full access to anyone's data. They remove any and all apps China requests to remove from the App Store if it doesn't align with China's agenda. They've given half a trillion dollars to the Chinese government to stay relevant there. You having this weird vendetta against anyone that criticizes Apple in any capacity is strange.


That's not what conspiracy means.
They just like to throw that word around for funsies.
 
Okay but that still says nothing about *why* they were able to resurface to begin with, after being deleted many iOS updates ago…
Deletion normally just removes the file index until the space is needed, so the bug restored those orphaned files. Overwriting every deleted byte before it is required for other data would cause unnecessary writes and shorten the lifespan of the volatile storage.
 
I'm honestly shocked by all the people downvoting people for expressing their concerns here. Photos shouldn't be "reappearing." This isn't just a bug issue—this is a severe breach of privacy. It highlights a massive concern that our photos aren't actually being deleted when we delete them. A bug doesn't keep deleted photos around for years ... it exposed that Apple is still storing our supposedly deleted photos on their cloud servers.

Some of us has a pretty good idea what happened.

The photo was never deleted on the device because the photos was used by at least two apps (or similar). Thus deleting the photo in the Photo app wouldn't cause iOS to delete it from the device since there was still one more app needing the photos.
 
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It is beiievable because multiple people that had the issue confirmed that they had the photos saved in Files app.
You can believe whatever you want. Tons of people believe in crazy snake oil stuff. But just a few people on the internet claiming that's what happened is not for me.

I'm looking for the official communication from Apple. If it is that simple why won't Apple come out and explain it. Did they start hiring Contractor's friends as their spokesperson?
 
Neither Apple or iOS deletes your photos immediately. Apple says it can take up to 40 days depending on a few factors.

In this case I'm pretty sure it wasn't a deletion bug, but an instance where photos was (logically) stored several places. Thus the photos were never deleted because they were still active for at least one part of iOS or app.

Yeah but reports state some of these photos were years old… Apple has no excuse, it plainly IS keeping old deleted photos for years on its servers, to me that’s a breach of privacy. And Apple have basically admitted it with this patch.
 
Some of us has a pretty good idea what happened.

The photo was never deleted on the device because the photos was used by at least to apps (or similar). Thus deleting the photo in the Photo app wouldn't cause iOS to delete it from the device since there was still one more app needing the photos.
You have no idea what happened because you don't work for Apple in any capacity and your knowledge of the situation is entirely based on what you just made up in your mind. Your explanation is also ridiculous and doesn't align with any explanation given anywhere on the internet except the comment you just made. It's also wrong.
 
The under-reaction by some people in here is insane. The implications of this in terms of privacy should concern everyone that stores their photos in iCloud. You pretending this isn't an issue doesn't make this not an issue.

I'm pretty sure it isn't an iCloud issue, but an issue with the file/photo database on the device itself.
 
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As I explained early, it's a bug related to the Files app. If you import your photos to Files, and you delete them from Photos, they were appearing once again in Photos app after updating to 17.5, so they were in your phone, but in another app. That's the bug. It's nothing to worry about.
You say it as if that is the truth. Even if we assume the Files apps is one way to cause the Photos to come back, is there any proof that no other ways the Photos are being stored? Did you audit Apple's source code to find out there are no other possible triggers of the bug?
 
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