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Just to check (as I may do that this weekend), when you say 'restore as new' is it still ok to restore using a backup?


Not any kind of backup restoration, only synching via iTunes as you'd do with any new iDevices.

I, as I've pointed out previously in the thread, never restore. This is why I've never ever had any kind of battery problems (apart from hardware issues) otherwise plaguing iOS.

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The problem is that betas will expire.

Nope, if you spoof it. See my thread at https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1688804/

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I'm also having crashes with iPad Air due to low memory. My iPhone 5S on the other hand seems to be working just fine.

Yup, it was a big mistake on Apple's part not to add another 1 GB of RAM to the new iPads. They, because of the much higher-res screen, use a lot more RAM for the same task as on an iPhone; particularly WRT web browsing.

The situation is even made worse by native 64 bit apps' / widgets (Safari and UIWebView used from apps specifically compiled for arm64 both belong to here) using significantly more RAM than in 32-bit mode. (And the latter - 32-bit - in only available in third-party apps not compiled for 64-bit. The built-in apps are all 64 bit, incl. Safari, which means you in no way can reduce their RAM usage, unlike with third-party apps, where you deliberately can go for a 32-bit one to reduce RAM usage.)

Planned obsolescence - all too common with Apple's products, regrettably.
 
ipad air updated fine. ipad 2 needed to update via itunes otherwise won't update even though 'downloaded and installed' OTA on 7.0.6
 
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Never had any Safari crashes or phone resprings or restarts in iOS 6 or earlier, but I've definitely seen all of those in iOS 7.

Yup, I haven't seen resprings under iOS6 either. I only referred to Safari crashes. Under iOS6, Safari is crashing as frequently as under iOS7.0.x on "legacy" models. There's absolutely no difference between the memory handling of Safari under iOS7.0.x and earlier OS versions. (I've very thoroughly benchmarked this.)

(Again, on 64-bit devices, Safari crashes were more common under iOS7.0.x because of the 20-30% more RAM usage. This has also contributed to many people's calling iOS7.0.x useless. I myself am staying with iOS7.0.6 on my rMini because I don't find the crashes that frequent - my JB tweaks, most importantly, f.lux, are far more important to me than Safari stability.)
 
When sending a text, the "dismiss" button that shows your remaining balance has a different background and font colour. Looks a lot better.
 
Look in Location Services in settings and see what app or service is using location and figure out why that might be and change the app settings if needed or even disable location services and/or background refresh for it individually.

Did that. Apparently the two apps causing this in my phone are Nike+ Move and Google Now. Even if the Apps are closed from the multitask screen.
 
Found a bug. Playing a tune from the cloud and opened safari, music stops hmmm. Off to report it.

This normally happens if there is some kind of media element in the tab/tabs in your session...

For example, Try loading a page on youtube, exit safari, load music app (spotify or whatever), start playing a song and then multi-task back to safari... The music will most likely stop.

Might be worth confirming what pages/tabs you had open when submitting the bug report :)
 
Seems as 7.1 broke my Bluetooth in my car. When I connect to play a song, the dashboard shows the song title, but all the music is coming out of my phone's speaker. I tried to look and see if there was a output setting I could change, but had no luck. Anybody have any ideas?
 
Still finding that the only thing I don't like is the size of the text on the Notification Centre/Today view... That and the pitch black slide to scroll... I'm not sure why it can't just be the same semi-frosted so the background image affects the colouring.

I also really like the lock screen keyboard, not sure why I like it so much.. Would be nice to choose the default keyboard between that, normal and dark. I reaaaally like the new Caps and Shift buttons... daft as that might be ;)

I DID notice that some of my ringtone/tone/vibration settings had been reset, but that may have just been due to me playing with them when the update kicked in.

I've noticed a few little quarks while Darken Colours has been turned on, certain apps not responding to it, but nothing major in the OS.

McTube and Facebook are good examples of this. Facebooks tabs along the bottom all show in a darker blue, as does the return arrow when applicable, however the main blue doesn't change in the header. McTube has a very iOS 7 minimal red theme and this applied to all pages in the app. With Darken Colours on the full screen video player (after caching video) now has dark blue (which I think is what the standard video player now has with this on, so understandable) menu items (hide/done).

Overall, I've noticed a little more accuracy in push notifications, stability all round is good (i've only ever had 1 or 2 resprings on previous iOS7.0.x builds). I tend to run quite a lot on this phone, multi-task a lot. Background Refresh seems to be handling itself a little better (re: Tweetbot) and the change in animation speeds has made a big improvement.

Overall they've definitely gone in the right direction, hopefully we'll see a 7.1.1 pretty soon to balance out some of the smaller inconsistencies and App Developers will start releasing updates to their own apps to better use the new accessibility options so that consistency can be raised a bit.

Worth note, the update to the Remote App that's just landed is a welcome addition to an under utilised app. Go grab it if it hasn't already updated.

As for those complaining about Weather and Reduce Motion .... if the main motion is the bit that annoys you and you could cope with the loading animations, you can always turn Reduce Motion off and set your wallpaper to non-parallax and you'd probably find a nice halfway house there.
 
Seems as 7.1 broke my Bluetooth in my car. When I connect to play a song, the dashboard shows the song title, but all the music is coming out of my phone's speaker. I tried to look and see if there was a output setting I could change, but had no luck. Anybody have any ideas?

I'm not sure as I've not played with my phone in car much, but are you seeing the little AirPlay icon next to volume? If so, it might just be that it's not switching to the car for audio as it did before.

Still a bug, but I'd be interested to know if that icon is there and if so does it have the right output option.

(I'm basing this on the fact that I AirPlay/Bluetooth Spotify to my home cinema/apple tv and it's happened to me a few times where it hasn't picked the right output source after connecting)
 
Still finding that the only thing I don't like is the size of the text on the Notification Centre/Today view... That and the pitch black slide to scroll... I'm not sure why it can't just be the same semi-frosted so the background image affects the colouring.

I also really like the lock screen keyboard, not sure why I like it so much.. Would be nice to choose the default keyboard between that, normal and dark. I reaaaally like the new Caps and Shift buttons... daft as that might be ;)

I DID notice that some of my ringtone/tone/vibration settings had been reset, but that may have just been due to me playing with them when the update kicked in.

I've noticed a few little quarks while Darken Colours has been turned on, certain apps not responding to it, but nothing major in the OS.

McTube and Facebook are good examples of this. Facebooks tabs along the bottom all show in a darker blue, as does the return arrow when applicable, however the main blue doesn't change in the header. McTube has a very iOS 7 minimal red theme and this applied to all pages in the app. With Darken Colours on the full screen video player (after caching video) now has dark blue (which I think is what the standard video player now has with this on, so understandable) menu items (hide/done).

Overall, I've noticed a little more accuracy in push notifications, stability all round is good (i've only ever had 1 or 2 resprings on previous iOS7.0.x builds). I tend to run quite a lot on this phone, multi-task a lot. Background Refresh seems to be handling itself a little better (re: Tweetbot) and the change in animation speeds has made a big improvement.

Overall they've definitely gone in the right direction, hopefully we'll see a 7.1.1 pretty soon to balance out some of the smaller inconsistencies and App Developers will start releasing updates to their own apps to better use the new accessibility options so that consistency can be raised a bit.

Worth note, the update to the Remote App that's just landed is a welcome addition to an under utilised app. Go grab it if it hasn't already updated.

As for those complaining about Weather and Reduce Motion .... if the main motion is the bit that annoys you and you could cope with the loading animations, you can always turn Reduce Motion off and set your wallpaper to non-parallax and you'd probably find a nice halfway house there.

Yeah, I'm not sure why either but the Lock screen keyboard is really nice!
 
I'm not sure as I've not played with my phone in car much, but are you seeing the little AirPlay icon next to volume? If so, it might just be that it's not switching to the car for audio as it did before.



Still a bug, but I'd be interested to know if that icon is there and if so does it have the right output option.



(I'm basing this on the fact that I AirPlay/Bluetooth Spotify to my home cinema/apple tv and it's happened to me a few times where it hasn't picked the right output source after connecting)


Yeah, I only got to play with it for a few minutes on the way to work with iTunes Radio, but I couldn't find an AirPlay button or speaker output button the check with. Not sure if there's a toggle I'm missing somewhere. Thanks!
 
Try a program called Phone Clean Pro. There is an old free version still floating around the net. You can use that to test your iPad and iPhone with, to see if you want to purchase the new paid version.

It has worked well for me. Your mileage may vary. It beats having to do clean installs all the time, as far as I am concerned.


Thanks for the suggestion! I actually went with iFunbox, though I might still try the free trial of Phone Clean to compare. It took me a little time, but deleting the app caches dropped my Other from over 5GB to under 500MB. Most apps didn't have data in the cache, but some had massive amounts (I'm looking at you, Chrome).

My phone is a *lot* faster now, though I don't know if it's the iOS update or the cleared cache (or a combination of the two). Hoping it stays this way.
 
My phone is a *lot* faster now, though I don't know if it's the iOS update or the cleared cache (or a combination of the two).

Back in the initial iOS6 days, I've made some serious benchmarks of iPad3's slowdown caused by generating some hundreds of thousands of files in internal app directories.

It did result in some serious slowdown, particularly when synching stuff to the iPad via iTunes. Then, the file transfer /synching became about an order of magnitude slower.

Interestingly, there was much smaller difference on the iPad itself (not when synching / sending stuff to it.)

The same may have been the case with you - 5 GB of Web cache may have meant several tens or even hundreds of thousands of files.
 
Check Settings/General/Background App Refresh

The app that requires background geolocation tracking will have an active icon (in my case, Find My Friends).

While Find My Friends would work fairly consistently up to now, I remember the geolocation arrow would only show when the app was active; guess now the arrow shows the actual state of geolocation tracking (full = active, grey = last 24 hours, outline = geofence).



So far, the only way I've found to get rid of that location icon in the status bar is to completely switch off location services. Surely a bug? 7.1.1! :rolleyes:
 
I imagine so, but I'll live with it. The weather ones I want sending me warnings even when the app isn't running.

You can leave on the main toggle then turn off each individual app that you dont want. So leave weather on in your example but the others off.
 
This is not an issue. It had been turned off, to the detriment of developers and navi apps. It has been turned back on after developer backlash.

See here: https://www.macrumors.com/2014/02/11/ios-71-fixes-location-apps/

Yep and it now works like iOS6 did so basically they just went back to how it was before iOS7. Definitely better. Like reminders app for example, now can have a geofence reminder set but the app does not need to be open to work. So you will be reminded then the location changes whether or not the app is open.
 
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