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So I had predicted the "classic" form to go away, as there wouldn't be anything differentiating besides capactiy. But the capacity increase is so large, and the case is redesigned, that it's probably fine.

-=|Mgkwho
 
i bought 30gb video ipod august 11th. feeling stupid. i called and begged to no avail. oh well. such is the modern age of constantly updated technology.
 
Does anyone remember when the classic iPod was this one?

Ha ha! I still have mine, though haven't used it in years. Funny it's 6 years old but looks so dated with that tiny screen. But I do still have an affection for the moving scroll wheel.
 
i bought 30gb video ipod august 11th. feeling stupid. i called and begged to no avail. oh well. such is the modern age of constantly updated technology.

You have about 2 hours to get it on eBay before the rest of the world figures out there are new iPods. (Seriously, go, go, go).
 
Dissapointed

What is wrong with Apple?

The "new" iPod line is a mess. Where did their innovation go???

Take the iPhone and take the away the phone features and what do you get? A new iPod. WOW, how innovative.

Take the iPod 5g and put a bigger hard drive and a metal enclosing and what do you get? A 6g iPod. WOW, I could not see that coming.

This is depressing. They could even update the firmware for existing iPods so they can get the new GUI.

Where is the RADIO and the BIGGER SCREEN???
 
Sign me up for a silver 160gb right now...a major upgrade in capacity over my 160gb. :)
 
Not a big fan - big capacity, but who can listen to 40K songs? Who needs the whole library? Getting cross-eyed at watching video - the touch is where it is at, but the price is too high.

It's all about variety. You never know what you might want to listen to at any given time.
 
Ha ha! I still have mine, though haven't used it in years. Funny it's 6 years old but looks so dated with that tiny screen. But I do still have an affection for the moving scroll wheel.

I still have mine too, and I still use it!
 
PERFECT! Ordering the 160GB. Everyone is happy exceot iPhone buyers from the past two months, Those of us with huge music collections can take it all with us... NExt year 240GB!!! :p

I have a feeling the classic line will suffer in sales when there is the iPod touch line now

Not so. They don't hold much. Yes they will sell more but there are many who want alot of music only with them.

Not a big fan - big capacity, but who can listen to 40K songs? Who needs the whole library? Getting cross-eyed at watching video - the touch is where it is at, but the price is too high.

My 80 gigger is full and I have 120GB of music on my mac. I keep my pod at my studio and hooked into a stereo and play all kinds of music. Each day a different genre or artist or playlist. Many of us want it all with us. Think about bars, restaurants who have iPods hooked up. DJs can bring huge collections to choose from, :ppeople with second homes or on extended tours!!
 
And they are not easily amenable to cleaning. The new Apple design is better on both fronts, but it's always a limitation. Ahh, well, I guess this is a limitation until it becomes feasible to make a keyboard-sized iPhone screen and then just use that. :D

Does your mighty mouse get dirty easily? Is it the ball, or the whole thing?

As for my white Apple stuff... my AEBS and iMac just have to be dusted periodically. The mouse bottom ring gets grimy, but the top just needs to be wiped off once in a rare while. The keyboards both stay clean and I just wash the iSkins periodically, although particularly the skin for the old style Apple Wireless Keyboard does hamper touch typing. The only thing that really gets intensive cleaning to stay new looking is the iBook.

I've seen about the same as you, but since I don't have a cover on my keyboard, it rarely looks... spiffy. (Interesting note on the iSkin, btw.) I swapped the mighty mouse for a logitech bluetooth, to be honest, but before that, the mouse didn't get grungy fast, like the keyboard.

I've taken the keys off my old iBook once, and gave it a thorough cleaning, it still looks great, and agree on the AEx.

Now the iPod Classic silver should be a great improvement over the white iPod in keeping up appearances (mine is in an invisishield, so what do I know?)
 
What is wrong with Apple?

The "new" iPod line is a mess. Where did their innovation go???

Take the iPhone and take the away the phone features and what do you get? A new iPod. WOW, how innovative.

Take the iPod 5g and put a bigger hard drive and a metal enclosing and what do you get? A 6g iPod. WOW, I could not see that coming.

This is depressing. They could even update the firmware for existing iPods so they can get the new GUI.

Where is the RADIO and the BIGGER SCREEN???

It seems to me that there's a certain point where a user interface has reached a point where very little, if any, can be done to improve it. For example, cars today still use steering wheels much like the same ones used what, 80 years ago?

I'm not saying the click wheel is the pinnacle of user interface design but for browsing and controlling music on an iPod? I can think of none better including the touch screen.

As for your wider screen, that's on the iPod touch. And as someone else said, your radio is back in the 70s.

Seriously, didn't we all buy iPods because we like our music much better than the radio?
 
It's all about variety. You never know what you might want to listen to at any given time.

EXACTLY.

For people with diverse musical tastes who pick artists/genres/decades/etc by their mood/whim.
 
So the article says 40 hrs of music and 7 hours of video..
but that simply doesn't make sense for a 160GB iPod.

The Apple site says this:
"With 80GB or 160GB of storage and up to 40 hours of battery life, the new iPod classic lets you enjoy up to 40,000 songs or up to 200 hours of video — or any combination — wherever you go."

That's better ;)
 
Just ordered my silver 80gb iPod Classic. Terrible name, great deal, and a fab replacement for my outdated mini.
 
Not a big fan - big capacity, but who can listen to 40K songs? Who needs the whole library? Getting cross-eyed at watching video - the touch is where it is at, but the price is too high.


Ah, variety is the spice of life. Sure, I'm not going to listen to 40K songs in one Metro or plane trip BUT it's sure nice when you have that song suddenly playing in your head you can listen to it with a couple clicks. Plus now with a 160GB iPod you can easily partition off 20 or 30GB for use as a portable drive w/o sacrificing media storage.
 
It seems to me that there's a certain point where a user interface has reached a point where very little, if any, can be done to improve it. For example, cars today still use steering wheels must like the same ones used what, 80 years ago?

I'm not saying the click wheel is the pinnacle of user interface design but for browsing and controlling music on an iPod? I can think of none better including the touch screen.

As for your wider screen, that's on the iPod touch. And as someone else said, your radio is back in the 70s.

Seriously, didn't we all buy iPods because we like our music much better than the radio?

That's why cars dont come with radio anymore right?? because that's so 70s. That is a fanboy opinion/argument.

If other players can include the radio as a feature, why can't the iPod also have it? (Reason: lazyness and aspiring for a bigger profit margin by not incurring in additional costs) I decide if I want to listen to the radio, not Apple.

So, fanboys now have two decide from:

an iPod with a small screen and big capacity

or

an iPod with a large screen and small capacity

Was it impossible to make an iPod touch (which is really an iPhone with no phone) to have a 30gb hard drive? It would still have been very thin.

I am not complaining about the new GUI, I thinks it nice, but the point was that that was the only new "feature" (if you can call that one) that the ipod classic has. Apple did not improve on the only thing people were complaining from the day the 5g iPod came out: screen.

and no, with an iPod Touch with 16gb is not the solution.
 
I'm glad that Apple kept this product available.

Still very happy that I bought the 4GB iPod Nano 1G on the day it came out, it's still relevant in the marketplace. I was considering replacing it with a 16GB nano if that was announced, but it wasn't. Now I have to wonder about getting an 80GB iPod Classic (hah, 30GB Zune looks rather anaemic after all of today's announcements, even if they come out with an 80GB in a month or two) or an iPod Touch (this really appeals to my inner techno-lust) but £269 is a bit much for a 16GB iPod + Mobile Web Browser. The £159 80GB classic is far more agreeable.

Official capability for custom applications on the touch however ...
(also the 8GB Touch is a nice value upgrade over the 8GB nano IMO).
 
Was it impossible to make an iPod touch (which is really an iPhone with no phone) to have a 30gb hard drive? It would still have been very thin.

Well it could have had an 80GB hard drive I'm sure, using the 1.8" single platter drives as a base.

The product would have been thicker as a result - probably 12mm?

However the rest of the space could have been used for more battery, which would have been needed for powering the hard drive, and for better battery life than 20 hours.

However the future is flash memory, and the touch is the iPod's future, and it will be flash because it's small, low power and thin. Next year's touch with 32GB of flash will be when sales pick up for this product, right now it will be the boutique iPod product that lets us all laugh at other media players. Until they tell us they have FM radio and can view divx files anyway ...
 
That's why cars dont come with radio anymore right?? because that's so 70s. That is a fanboy opinion/argument.

Last time I checked, when you buy a car, you're buying a car, not a digital music player. There's nothing fanboy-esque about it. I bought a digital music player because I want my music with me every where I go and not some dumbass radio host blathering on about hollywood gossip.

If other players can include the radio as a feature, why can't the iPod also have it? (Reason: lazyness and aspiring for a bigger profit margin by not incurring in additional costs) I decide if I want to listen to the radio, not Apple.

If you want radio and someone else offers it in their player, then go buy their player. End of story. No one forces you to buy an iPod. There are other alternatives out there - why don't you seek them out?

So, fanboys now have two decide from:

an iPod with a small screen and big capacity

or

an iPod with a large screen and small capacity

Was it impossible to make an iPod touch (which is really an iPhone with no phone) to have a 30gb hard drive? It would still have been very thin.

I am not complaining about the new GUI, I thinks it nice, but the point was that that was the only new "feature" (if you can call that one) that the ipod classic has. Apple did not improve on the only thing people were complaining from the day the 5g iPod came out: screen.

and no, with an iPod Touch with 16gb is not the solution.

So basically you've just branded yourself a fanboy.

The iPod Classic is an evolution of the 5th gen iPod which, for me, is fine. I wanted a bigger harddrive without it getting any thicker. The 80gb iPod Classic does just that for me and with no compromises. So that's what I ordered.

If you want radio, get a different player or buy a radio tuner for your iPod. It's that simple. Or you could save a lot of cash and buy a handheld radio.
 
Well it could have had an 80GB hard drive I'm sure, using the 1.8" single platter drives as a base.

The product would have been thicker as a result - probably 12mm?

However the rest of the space could have been used for more battery, which would have been needed for powering the hard drive, and for better battery life than 20 hours.

However the future is flash memory, and the touch is the iPod's future, and it will be flash because it's small, low power and thin. Next year's touch with 32GB of flash will be when sales pick up for this product, right now it will be the boutique iPod product that lets us all laugh at other media players. Until they tell us they have FM radio and can view divx files anyway ...

Yep, I have 40 gigs of music but only 18 of it is listenable (4 or 5 stars). The iPod touch is below the threshold. I just ordered an 80gb iPod Classic but may very well sell it and get an iPod Touch next year when the 32 gig comes out. That's a perfect size.
 
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