I will have to say being able to dump ping off of it is a huge reason to make it worth the upgrade. I hate ping and just wanted it to go away. Looks like Apple listen to its user bitching for once instead of the normal reaction of we know best.
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Since support is provided for the current and the previous OS, it is $129 every four years. Hardly something that breaks the bank.
Just keep apologizing for Apple screwing over its customers. Do not mind the fact that they force the updates down on you. Require you to pretty much keep buying a new OS to really be able to do most things.
It is said Windows has a 9 year old OS supported by Apple. Compared to 3-4 year old support for Apples own OS. Speaks volumes about how little they think of their own users.
If you are a person who prefers to spend as little money as possible on their computer, you probably be more satisfied with a low-end Windows machine then with a Mac. Why would you keep doing business with somebody that is screwing you over?
Apple is offering me less hassle with coping with various OS and software versions for a small surcharge (if we talk about OS update cost), if you don't like that deal, don't take it.
I don't feel screwed by this, I am rather glad I get new OS versions at a regular basis. I never upgraded the OS because I had to, but always because I wanted the new features of the OS.
Apple Remote App
Does anyone know if an update to the Ipad "Remote" app will follow iOS 4.2?
They have made it look so much like iTunes that I hope when playing a video from iTunes on my PC that I can output using airplay to the ATV2 or the iPad.
Does anyone know if an update to the Ipad "Remote" app will follow iOS 4.2?
They have made it look so much like iTunes that I hope when playing a video from iTunes on my PC that I can output using airplay to the ATV2 or the iPad.
You no more have to buy new versions of the OS than you have to buy new versions of any software. If you're going to upgrade iLife, yes, sometimes you'll have to upgrade the OS as well (though usually we're talking 4+ years at least). Big deal.
Can't imagine it's really a hardship for anyone who can actually purchase a Mac in the first place, and it's no more than you'd spend on a PC in the same amount of time for both software upgrades and OS upgrades, assuming you can, plus you're more likely to replace the PC during that time period (on average).
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Exactly. I just imagined how many frustrated Windows Vista users were almost forced to upgrade to Windows 7 because of software issues and suicidal near death experiences
. And how much much is again Windows 7 again if you look for a bit more functionality over the Home edition? I have to laugh sometimes about the nonsense some of the children write here
1) Not sure you have ever used iTunes w/ Win XP. It's not a pleasant experience.
2) M$ didn't intend for XP to last 9 years. They just couldn't get their act together long enough to push out a decent replacement. Apple supports a 9 year old Win b/c that is, in effect, the current version. (Most Win users only upgrade the OS when they buy a new machine).
3) Technology doesn't exist in a vacuum. Apple (like most devs) designs its s/w to work best with the latest hardware and Mac OS X. That is how technology evolves -- not by writing to the weakest system or oldest OS still used. It's 100% pay to play. If you don't care about the latest and greatest you can use your machine as-it-shipped for years and years. If you want the latest, don't expect a free ride with your old hardware and OS. If that was possible many Mac users would have refused to abandon OS 9 and Apple would be out of business.
Very glad to see the new pref to hide the ping stuff, but one suggestion for the dropdown menu (ping or not). Since it's a menu now instead of just an arrow, why not include the options for show in store AND show in local library instead of having to switch by holding down option?
I am glad the terminal hack still works to switch the default between store and local library.
I am glad the terminal hack still works to switch the default between store and local library.
It seemed OK to me the last time I saw an XP machine - which was a long time ago, admittedly.
Nonsense. XP currently only has around 51% of the Windows market share. W7 has sold more than XP did in the same time frame.
51% of PCs are still running an OS which is 9 years old? Wow...
2001... Good old times...
Yep, shows you how well it worked!51% of PCs are still running an OS which is 9 years old? Wow...
2001... Good old times...
An interesting question to ask would be which of these OS's you'd want to use today, if there was no other choice:
- OS X 10.0/10.1
- Mac OS 9.2
- Windows XP
http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2001/10/macosx-10-1.ars/13 said:
Yepp. No doubt. But it also shows that the replacement sucked.
Or do you honestly believe MS intended that users keep XP installed for such a long time? 
Honestly? XP. It just seems so much more responsive than Apple computers of yore.
let's cut the "9 year old OS" nonsense
Not to distract this whine with facts, but XP SP3 was enabled in Windows automatic update in July 2008.
One can say that XP is nine years old, or one can say that it is two years old. Both claims can be supported. What is unsupportable is to claim that the XP from 2001 is the same OS as XP SP3.
Yepp. No doubt. But it also shows that the replacement sucked.
Not to distract this whine with facts, but XP SP3 was enabled in Windows automatic update in July 2008.
One can say that XP is nine years old, or one can say that it is two years old. Both claims can be supported. What is unsupportable is to claim that the XP from 2001 is the same OS as XP SP3.
It's basically a 9 year old branded product, but really XP is (even today) pretty current.
Yes, I agree. But then it is not so surprising, that:
Rodimus Prime said:
So to sum it up: XP with SP3 is 2 years old and running on 51% of all PCs and Apple supports it with the latest iTunes build. So what exactly is the problem?
So to sum it up: XP with SP3 is 2 years old and running on 51% of all PCs and Apple supports it with the latest iTunes build. So what exactly is the problem?
Actually, Itunes supports XP SP2 from August 2004 - so Itunes is supported on 6 year old Windows systems.
Yes, I agree. But then it is not so surprising, that:
So to sum it up: XP with SP3 is 2 years old and running on 51% of all PCs and Apple supports it with the latest iTunes build. So what exactly is the problem?
well I could buy a computer from 9 years ago and in theory run an iPhone 4 wiht out having to pay to upgrade it.
Now I have a desktop that is little over 6 years old now that is running iTunes 10. Yeah it can not handle iTUnes HD movies but I used it to handle an iPhone 4 for an update for my mother. I have never had to buy another OS for the computer.
Tell me can you buy a mac from 6 years ago that can run iPhone for with out having to pay 130 for an upgrade. btw in time frame this computer was built back in the PPC days in 2004. At the time it was a very good computer I built.
Pretty good considering it still an acceptable desktop to use after 6 years.
Now since I got my laptop for school I am going to turn it into my linux box and starting playing with linux on it.
Is there much of a compatibility issue between XP with SP2 and SP3? Probably not so much anyway, but I could be mistaken.
Anyway, I find it hard to understand why some users here are trying to put a negative spin to this issue. Surely by now most of the OSX users would have upgraded to at least OS 10.5, and Apple focuses in general with their software build on the most common OSs on the MAC and Windows side.
SP2 is significantly changed from SP1 and earlier, so it's not uncommon for SP2 to be the minimum. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XP_SP2#Service_Pack_2
SP3 has some new features, but unless software needs the SP3 features incompatibility is unlikely. SP3 has some features back-ported from Vista for better compatibility with Vista/Server2008 systems.
Thanks, Aiden. That is what I thought. I remember to have seen SP2 requirements for some other programs, too. So basically no surprise that iTunes is supported back to XP with SP2
Finally got round to downloading.
Utter rubbish.
These days, it seems every update suits my needs less and less.
WHY haven't they fixed the issue of computer going to sleep when visualizer is on full screen? Are they seriously telling us they are doing that on purpose to look more 'green'? Does anyone know a way round this problem? I changed my 'energy saver' settings (I put 'computer sleep' to 'never' and 'display sleep' to 'never'). Didn't make any difference. Do changes in 'energy saver' only kick in after a restart?
And now, new with this update, playlists don't update as quickly. When I play a playlist with 'last played' highlighted & arrow pointing up the track that has just been played does not disappear instantly any more.
I wish I could go back a few updates and have iTunes 9.3 (or whatever). Can I do that? Would it be available to download anywhere?
Thanks everyone.
Utter rubbish.
These days, it seems every update suits my needs less and less.
WHY haven't they fixed the issue of computer going to sleep when visualizer is on full screen? Are they seriously telling us they are doing that on purpose to look more 'green'? Does anyone know a way round this problem? I changed my 'energy saver' settings (I put 'computer sleep' to 'never' and 'display sleep' to 'never'). Didn't make any difference. Do changes in 'energy saver' only kick in after a restart?
And now, new with this update, playlists don't update as quickly. When I play a playlist with 'last played' highlighted & arrow pointing up the track that has just been played does not disappear instantly any more.
I wish I could go back a few updates and have iTunes 9.3 (or whatever). Can I do that? Would it be available to download anywhere?
Thanks everyone.
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