Apple Releases iTunes 10.1 With Support for AirPlay and iOS 4.2

[burtba]

10.1 So Unimpressed

10.1 for me so far is easily the worst upgrade.

1/ I cannot for the life of sync a movie onto my iPod, iPhone or iPad. I have synced plenty before, so I know what I'm doing. I've made them .m4v's. They import into iTunes, and let me select them as a sync item when each device is connected, but just doesnt sync.

2/ iPad has always had an issue with taking AGES, like 45 minutes or more for some to sync (the backup process) when you havent synced for a little while. Not this is happening everytime. Makes me wonder if they were focusing in the wrong direction with those delays.

Worst upgrade ever APPLE. Sure it may work with 4.2, but we done have that yet, and we cant just put our syncing on hold for weeks .

Very Un-Impressed.

 

[SlamJam12]

Top 5

I have noticed on iTunes before and after this recent update that the top 5 songs of an artist change all the time when I look at an album of theirs. Is that faulty or a glitch that is occurring?

 

[Fofer]

It still doesn't show artwork for albus that only ave a few songs.

When in Album List view, the View menu gets an "Always Show Artwork" item. Select that, so it has a check next to it. Then it will always show artwork in that first column, even if you only have a single track from that album.

Nothing's changed on this front in 10.1, it's been there ever since Album View was made an option.

 

[Fofer]

is airplay only for new Atv's or will it work on the older models as well?

New one only.

Clarification: Airplay for audio (previously called AirTunes) works on both generations of AppleTV and also Airport Express.

Airplay for video will only work on the 2nd gen AppleTV.

 

[Fofer]

The most frustrating part of this experience is not having the video streaming over AirPlay to the Apple TV. Don't tell DirecTV but it's actually possible to stream NFL Sunday Ticket over the iPad app to Apple TV, but I CAN'T SEE THE VIDEO!

well i still haven't gotten airplay to work with video yet. has anyone?

The piece of the puzzle missing is that the 2nd gen AppleTV also needs an iOS update, to receive the AirPlay video content. I suspect it'll be out soon.

Folks running the 2nd GM of iOS 4.2 on their iPads are having the same issue. Once the AppleTV is updated, we'll be able to "push" video content from our iTunes (running 10.1) or our iDevices (running iOS 4.2) to display on our 2nd gen AppleTV's.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

What I love is how iTunes is still supported on a Windows computer that is at this point 8-9 years old but no longer supported on a Mac that is 5 years old.

 

[Fofer]

What I love is how iTunes is still supported on a Windows computer that is at this point 8-9 years old but no longer supported on a Mac that is 5 years old.

Huh? From the current requirements:

Macintosh Hardware

Mac computer with an Intel, PowerPC G5 or G4 processor

Intel, PowerPC G5 or 1.0GHz PowerPC G4 or faster processor is required to play Standard Definition video from the iTunes Store

2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo or faster processor is required to play HD video, an iTunes LP, or iTunes Extras from the iTunes Store

512MB of RAM; 1GB is required to play HD video, an iTunes LP, or iTunes Extras

Screen resolution of 1024x768 or greater; 1280x800 or greater is required to play an iTunes LP or iTunes Extras

Playing videos also requires at least 16MB of video RAM

Broadband Internet connection to use the iTunes Store

Apple combo drive or SuperDrive to create audio, MP3, or back-up CDs; some non-Apple CD-RW recorders may also work.

Apple SuperDrive to back up your library to DVDs; some non-Apple DVD-RW drives may also work.


Macintosh Software
Mac OS X version 10.5 or later
QuickTime 7.6 or later
Support for HE-AAC requires QuickTime 7.6.4 or later
Safari 4.0.3 or later
200MB of available disk space

 

[manu chao]

What I love is how iTunes is still supported on a Windows computer that is at this point 8-9 years old but no longer supported on a Mac that is 5 years old.

As Fofer has pointed out, the oldest supported Macs are the Quicksilver PowerMac G4s from 2002 (though for lesser machines like the iBooks this becomes 2004).
I think the biggest difference is in terms of OS, Leopard came out in 2007, XP in 2001. One could describe this as iTunes supporting the two most current major OS versions (with Vista not counting as major).

 

[TuffLuffJimmy]

I can remove Ping now!!!!

This is the best update ever. Except it broke my system's scrolling preferences, but a restart fixed that.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

As Fofer has pointed out, the oldest supported Macs are the Quicksilver PowerMac G4s from 2002 (though for lesser machines like the iBooks this becomes 2004).
I think the biggest difference is in terms of OS, Leopard came out in 2007, XP in 2001. One could describe this as iTunes supporting the two most current major OS versions (with Vista not counting as major).

basically you have to bend the rules to make it fit. Vista was a larger update that W7.

It is more of the fact that MS supports is OS and gives a very clear time line of when support will end.
Apple drops major support the day after they announce the next OS.

 

[Vintage Season]

This looks odd. New wording? (To the best of my knowledge, I don't have an "Audible" account...)

 

[jacollins]

Did ALL record labels agree to an additional 60 seconds to preview a song off an album? It's understandable that iTunes would have to undergo edits and changes through every song.

I don't believe Apple said. I wouldn't be surprised if not all of them agreed, and we don't get the 60 second previews on all music that it's applicable for (I was joking, tieing it in with the .69 cent only music that you rarely see as well).

I don't believe there need to be changes to iTunes, because it's essentially streaming and playing a sample from the Apple servers. iTunes doesn't care how long the sample is, it just plays what it gets.

 

[TuffLuffJimmy]

This looks odd. New wording? (To the best of my knowledge, I don't have an "Audible" account...)

It has always said that. Audible is a service that is integrated into iTunes, but owned by Audible not Apple.

 

[manu chao]

basically you have to bend the rules to make it fit. Vista was a larger update that W7.

It is more of the fact that MS supports is OS and gives a very clear time line of when support will end.
Apple drops major support the day after they announce the next OS.

Oh yes, how many years was Windows XP support pushed back? Talk about giving a very clear time line.
The point is until January 2009 you could still get a computer with XP only, and you can still get a fresh copy of XP today. Both Vista and Seven share the Windows NT 6.x version number. Under these circumstances, XP very much does feel like 'the previous OS'.

Compared to that, Apple is pretty consistent with their support. Sales of the old OS pretty much stop as soon as the inventory in stores is sold. Security updates are always provided for the previous OS.

 

[PlayUltimate]

As Fofer has pointed out, the oldest supported Macs are the Quicksilver PowerMac G4s from 2002 (though for lesser machines like the iBooks this becomes 2004).
I think the biggest difference is in terms of OS, Leopard came out in 2007, XP in 2001. One could describe this as iTunes supporting the two most current major OS versions (with Vista not counting as major).

Probably has more to do with the fact that there are still gazzilions of computers that have not upgraded to either Windows 7 or Vista. All of the computers at work are still using XP and Office 2007. And, one of the clients we deal with (a very large bank) requires us to send them Excel files as Excel 2003 files.

 

[Mr. McMac]

The fact that I can now disable Ping makes this update well worth it!!

 

[Rodimus Prime]

Oh yes, how many years was Windows XP support pushed back? Talk about giving a very clear time line.
The point is until January 2009 you could still get a computer with XP only, and you can still get a fresh copy of XP today. Both Vista and Seven share the Windows NT 6.x version number. Under these circumstances, XP very much does feel like 'the previous OS'.

Compared to that, Apple is pretty consistent with their support. Sales of the old OS pretty much stop as soon as the inventory in stores is sold. Security updates are always provided for the previous OS.

XP support was pushed back once due to delays from Vista. XP is currently in extended support right now. This means that they will only to security fixes but are not going to try to do other improvements. No more Service Packs ect.

Reason XP was sold for so long was because of bussiness and some of the underline chances in Vista and 7 dropped some of the legacy support. XP can still be used in a emulation and Virtural PC.

But MS provides very clear guide lines on when support will be drop. You have time to switch. Worse case MS is going to push it back farther but guess what that is still going to be a ways from when the dead line is. XP got pushed back because Vista came out to close to the drop support line.

But explain this logic to you is just not going to work.

 

[Fofer]

Out of curiousity, has anyone taken a look in the Mac iTunes files to see if there are any references to text tones? I'm wondering if there's something internal that's disabled for now for custom text tones for the i4. I don't see anything in the PC iTunes.

FYI:

Customized text tones in iOS 4.2 means that you'll be able to assign specific tones to specific people in your address book. (And there are a bunch of new text tone choices available. Nearly all of them are ridiculously long and annoying, however.)

It does NOT mean that we'll be able to customize the text tones and add whatever tons we want, though.

http://www.tipb.com/2010/09/17/ios-42-text-tones-individual-custom/


If you want to add/change the text tone choices, you're going to have to look into jailbreaking for now.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

Ahh, my apologies. I guess I have never understood the need to push from a mac because going from your ATV to the mac offers the same outcome. IOS devices I understand because of the mobility involved.

AirPlay push from the computer (rather than pulling from the ATV) is exciting for laptop users like myself. Certainly makes things more versatile. And it would've been weird if our iDevices had that capability and our computers did not.

It also paves the way for an enterprising developer like Rogue Amoeba to update a product like AirFoil to allow for sending of any video output from the Mac to an AppleTV. Much like they have already done for audio, with Airport Expresses (and AppleTV's.)

Exciting times.

 

[Thomas2006]

Nah, they wouldn't do something like that in a point update... iTunes 11 at the earliest...

Apple dropped PowerPC support with Mac OS X 10.5 and I expect 32-bit Intel support to end with Mac OS X 10.7, which will allow Apple to release a 64-bit version of iTunes. I still expect iTunes 11 to have Mac OS X 10.5 as the minimum OS requirement since "Snow Leopard" was mostly about gutting PowerPC code from the OS.

 

[manu chao]

XP support was pushed back once due to delays from Vista. XP is currently in extended support right now. This means that they will only to security fixes but are not going to try to do other improvements. No more Service Packs ect.

Reason XP was sold for so long was because of bussiness and some of the underline chances in Vista and 7 dropped some of the legacy support. XP can still be used in a emulation and Virtural PC.

But MS provides very clear guide lines on when support will be drop. You have time to switch. Worse case MS is going to push it back farther but guess what that is still going to be a ways from when the dead line is. XP got pushed back because Vista came out to close to the drop support line.

But explain this logic to you is just not going to work.

My point was mainly that iTunes supports the current and the previous OS (and that XP has be seen as 'the previous OS' due to its perseverance). Which is a very clear policy (as clear as the state of the Windows OS allows for).

And when it comes to OS support, Apple is also very clear, support the current OS, and support the previous OS with security updates. I don't know what is unclear about that. They also announce the rough ship date of a new OS about a year in advance plus we pretty much know that the cycle is now about two years plus/minus.

What Apple does not do is to declare that they will a given OS for x years. But we know that depending on where we are in the OS cycle, we can get between two and four years of security updates. You might criticise Apple for that comparatively short time span but others might laud it for it because it puts pressure on third-party developers to keep the support for new OS versions up.

 

[Morod]

The fact that I can now disable Ping makes this update well worth it!!

Indeed! I never upgraded to 10.0.1 due to stories I read of Ping increasing its presence in iTunes. Joy here.
I've been listening to iTunes 10.1 a lot and have found no degradation in audio quality, either in songs I imported or in songs I bought from the iTunes Store. Thanks, !

 

[Rodimus Prime]

My point was mainly that iTunes supports the current and the previous OS (and that XP has be seen as 'the previous OS' due to its perseverance). Which is a very clear policy (as clear as the state of the Windows OS allows for).

And when it comes to OS support, Apple is also very clear, support the current OS, and support the previous OS with security updates. I don't know what is unclear about that. They also announce the rough ship date of a new OS about a year in advance plus we pretty much know that the cycle is now about two years plus/minus.

What Apple does not do is to declare that they will a given OS for x years. But we know that depending on where we are in the OS cycle, we can get between two and four years of security updates. You might criticise Apple for that comparatively short time span but others might laud it for it because it puts pressure on third-party developers to keep the support for new OS versions up.

What I think you are getting is while Apple is clear it never release that information and to me just yet another example of why Apple is not used in the business world and quick way for an IT guy to get fired by suggesting it.

Also get around the fact that Apple is supporting low and be hold an 9 year OS for windows and a OS not much older than Vista on OSX. That in sad in it self.

 

[manu chao]

Also get around the fact that Apple is supporting low and be hold an 9 year OS for windows and a OS not much older than Vista on OSX. That in sad in it self.

Well, a far smaller percentage of OS user is on 10.4 or earlier than is on XP. Apple is not supporting 10.4 with iTunes because there is little reason to but there is ample reason to support XP.

You portray it as a bad thing that Apple is 'forcing' people to upgrade their OS (by not supplying security updates and not supporting it with their apps like iTunes). I say it is a good thing. It make everything for everybody much easier.

 

[mrial]

AirPlay with Keynote

9to5mac.com reports iWork 11's Keynote will be able to push presentations to ATV2 via AirPlay .... cool!

http://www.9to5mac.com/35598/jobs-keynote-streaming-to-apple-tv-coming-soon

 

[Rodimus Prime]

Well, a far smaller percentage of OS user is on 10.4 or earlier than is on XP. Apple is not supporting 10.4 with iTunes because there is little reason to but there is ample reason to support XP.

You portray it as a bad thing that Apple is 'forcing' people to upgrade their OS (by not supplying security updates and not supporting it with their apps like iTunes). I say it is a good thing. It make everything for everybody much easier.

I guess you like forking out 129 dollars every other year for the required updates just to be able to use software.