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Hi, can anyone help please?

I have download my latest software updates today to my macbook air (version 10.5.8) which i presume includes the latest update to Java.

I am trying to view bbc i player and it is saying i need to enable Java. Java is enable in my security settings can anyone suggest what i can do to get this working?

Would really appreciate your help
 
Is there even much profit to be had in going after a minority demographic so tight-fisted that they won't even upgrade their operating system? The support costs and market fragmentation can't be worth it. Better to piss them off; maybe they'll get the hint and go away.

Oh, I forgot: they are a vocal minority. That's why. ;)

The way I see it, they bought an overpriced computer, told how secure and safe it is, and then gett dropped with the sharks two years later, without so much as a "Sayonara."

And if they complain, they are told it is their fault for not paying more money. So they can get the same treatment again.


I just wish Apple were as honest and upfront about how Apple mistreats customers at the cash register as you are here.
:apple::apple::apple:

RaceTripper said:
I still use Windows XP. I have no expectations for continued support.
And yet you will have it until 2014. Apple can't give you two years, Microsoft will give you about seven, since XP went off retail sale.
 
And yet you will have it until 2014. Apple can't give you two years, Microsoft will give you about seven, since XP went off retail sale.
Seven years of suffering. Oh my. :eek:

I just replaced my MBP after 2 1/2 years. That cost me less than the Dell laptops I used to get. Why. because after 2 1/2 years the Dells were worthless and hopelessly unreliable. The MBP I just replaced sold on craigslist for $1200. That makes buying Apple about half as costly for me as buying Dell.
 
Seven years of suffering. Oh my. :eek:

I just replaced my MBP after 2 1/2 years. That cost me less than the Dell laptops I used to get. Why. because after 2 1/2 years the Dells were worthless and hopelessly unreliable. The MBP I just replaced sold on craigslist for $1200. That makes buying Apple about half as costly for me as buying Dell.

More than 7 years. XP has been on sale since 2001, that makes it 13 years.
 
More than 7 years. XP has been on sale since 2001, that makes it 13 years.

That '7' may have been from me. I was referring to number of years support AFTER XP was dropped from retail sale. I believe Apple should step up and deliver five years from date of last retail sale. Less than two years should be an industry embarrassment.
 
I just think it's crap that Java 6 was left out for the PPC users. So instead of using my eMac to update my movie jukebox I have to use my MBP. My hopes were high when I saw the update, but I was quickly let down.
 
[sarcasm] OMG! Apple's still supporting 10.5 Leopard! I would've thought that Apple would've totally forgotten about it after it released Snow Leopard! [/sarcasm]

I hope this shows all those PPC users who whine about not being able to run Snow Leopard on their PPC computers will quiet them down a bit. While they might be able to run Snow Leopard, Apple still cares enough to make what they can run more stable. Not trying to flame, but all those complainers do get annoying after a while to be honest.

To be honest, fanboys also get annoying very quickly.

If you want to see how professional companies support their products, just take a look at Microsoft or IBM. If Apple wants to play in that league, they would have to support Mac OS X Cheetah until 2014. Yep, that's right: OS X 10.0 supported until 2014. Because that's how long Microsoft is going to support XP (which is about as old as Cheetah) although they have already released two successors to that system.

But Apple doesn't have to do that. Despite everything their marketing says, Apple does not play in the professional league (anymore), but only targets the consumer market where long term support doesn't matter.
 
If you want to see how professional companies support their products, just take a look at...

On the subject of annoyances, I'll take a swing at the use of the word "professional" to connote things above and beyond something being "of, relating to, or connected with a profession": pressed shirts with neckties, a firm handshake, standing around a conference table with coffee in hand working on a "vision statement", a pod of smiling, multiracial people pointing at a computer screen - making sure their website has a sufficient quantity of headset hotties...

Like it or not, Apple is a business - a successful one - and the people who comprise it are paid. While they may love what they do, they are certainly not doing it as a hobby. That is: they are a professional company. That word does not mean what you think it means, Vizzini.

The long-term support that you're describing is essential when selling to large businesses and bureaucracies. Microsoft and IBM, having deliberately chosen to play in that market, need to do it. I would wager that this sort of support headache is exactly what has been the disincentive for Apple to play in that sphere.

When I bought my Mac, I had already accepted that I'd still have to pay to keep current on system software, and that Apple would go out of their way to make sure that choosing not to would be an unpleasant alternative. Still I bought it and it has been well worth it. I can't help but think that anyone who would buy a Mac without having already internalized that part of the equation must have rode the short bus to school.

The fact that I bought a "very expensive car" does not release me from purchasing motor oil, and while you may (and probably will) quibble about that car analogy it is not at all unreasonable for Apple to refuse cater to customers who have made themselves de facto non-customers by not upgrading the operating system.
 
it is not at all unreasonable for Apple to refuse cater to customers who have made themselves de facto non-customers by not upgrading.

I still use my Power Mac G4 for many things and I don't see how that makes me a non-customer, de facto or otherwise. In recent years I have bought from Apple four new Mac laptops with AppleCare, various OS versions, three Apple routers, a Mighty Mouse, extra power supplies, and a slew of iPods and related accessories as well as numerous iTunes downloads. In fact it is exactly customers like me that I think Apple would want to continue to "cater to."

And regarding "not upgrading," I would have happily replaced the PM G4 by now with a newer midrange desktop system from Apple. Unfortunately Apple continues to stay out of that market.
 
I still use my Power Mac G4 for many things and I don't see how that makes me a non-customer, de facto or otherwise.

It doesn't. This thread has been about staying with Tiger with the availability of Leopard and Snow Leopard. My comment was on that subject. It wasn't about keeping old hardware. Fixed.

In recent years I have bought from Apple...various OS versions...

There you go.
 
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