Apple Releases Minor watchOS 3.2.2 Update

[kissmo]

WOW! This update added steroids to my battery!

I had a very good battery life previously but after this update, on a regular usage of my watch, I woke up this morning at 6:30 a.m. and until 3:30 p.m. the battery dropped form 100% to 94% only!

In the past I had about 14-15% down in this time range. It's not placebo, I wasn't even expecting improved battery life.

This is really insane!

Apple Watch Sports Series 2

 

[Mlrollin91]

What if you connect the watch to the charger.

Then power the watch off.

Will it immediately turn back on again (because its on the charger)?

Early versions of the iPhone needed to be connected to the power to update right? Perhaps one day the watch will get there too.

--Update, you cant power off the apple watch when its connected to the charger.

Correct. The option to swipe off is greyed out.

 

[44267547]

Once the initial update conditions are met (Wi-Fi, 50% charge, on charger) and the update starts, you can move away from those conditions and still finish the update just fine

Truthfully, I've never tested the method without removing the watch from the charger during the update process. I won't refute what you're stating. For me, I would rather much have it stationed and charging during the update process. That's just my preference being how long these updates take as is, where you cannot use the Watch normally during the update process.

However, Apple Support contradicted your post how the Watch can be free of the charger once the criteria is met. I called to confirm what you stated and they disagreed with yours (And others) findings. Basically it was explained to me, the Watch MUST be connected during the entire process, in which I inquired if this was true about being free of the charger after the criteria, after a brief hold with Apple Support, they again, stated it required the charger during the entire process.

But I digress, and trust your judgement on the charging/update process.

 

[themick4u]

Thanks for the feedback.

I will install the update today and report back tomorrow. Now that I am tracking my sleep with my Apple Watch battery life is extremely important.

It's 12:30 here now and i am at 77%!! I am amazed at this point. I usually am into the 50's% by this time normally.
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WOW! This update added steroids to my battery!

I had a very good battery life previously but after this update, on a regular usage of my watch, I woke up this morning at 6:30 a.m. and until 3:30 p.m. the battery dropped form 100% to 94% only!

In the past I had about 14-15% down in this time range. It's not placebo, I wasn't even expecting improved battery life.

This is really insane!

Apple Watch Sports Series 2

You said it right! Amazing isnt it!?!?!

 

[JTToft]

(1) I'm sorry but thats ridiculous, at least my hypothesis is plausible. (2) When you install an update, in between the two Apple logo cycles, you will hear a chime of it connecting to the power supply. That means the watch is being woken up by the power supply. That alone is enough to support my hypothesis as being plausible. So to compare something that might be accurate, to something outrageous as raising the temperature is just wrong. (3) I don't see you trying to come up with a hypothesis of why the charger is needed, instead you are here just putting down mine.

(1) Yes, it's completely ridiculous. My point was that throwing around unsubstantiated and untestable hypotheses can be done by anyone and isn't particularly interesting.

(2) Yes, in the same manner that the sound of a cow bell around the corner means there is a cattle herder herding cattle around the corner. It's not impossible, but you can't conclude one from the other. The appearing of the charging sound does not allow one to conclude anything at all except that power is connected.

(3) I did. That it's required because of a software limitation. Or in other words, that it isn't really required.

Could still be considered a "huge leap with no supporting evidence" as you phrase it.
Exactly what you are accusing the other poster of.
At least if you're gonna shoot down someones else hypothesis come up with some verifiable facts.
Otherwise what's the point, you're in the same trap.

- What can be hypothesised without verifiable facts can be dismissed without verifiable facts.

As pointed out above, the hypothesis that the charger is required for entirety of the update process is invalid. This also invalidates the hypothesis that the charger is required for the reboot of the Apple Watch during the update process.

Once the initial update conditions are met (Wi-Fi, 50% charge, on charger) and the update starts, you can move away from those conditions and still finish the update just fine, as I and ErikGrim have done. Based on these observations, I hypothesize that the conditions were mandated in order to reduce, as much as possible, the possible fail states that lead to bricking, not that they are absolute necessities.

- And that's the end of that. Thanks to wesley96 and ErikGrim for sharing their experiences.

It is just a software limitation that Apple could lift if they wanted to.

 

[kissmo]

It's 12:30 here now and i am at 77%!! I am amazed at this point. I usually am into the 50's% by this time normally.
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You said it right! Amazing isnt it!?!?!

Just a quick update.

So after 13h and 10 minutes my battery is at 86%!!!!
I even had to talk over the phone through my watch for a couple of minutes.

Sick sick sick! In a very positive way

 

[rjohnstone]

Your thinking is wrong. The requirement is only for it to be on the charger when the process is initiated. Once it starts you can wear your watch and installation continues, including reboots.

Yep.. this is 100% correct.
Once the installation process has started, you can remove the watch from the charger.
I just did it this morning. Once the download to the watch is completed and the installation starts, you can safely remove the watch from the charger.

 

[strayts]

Yep.. this is 100% correct.
Once the installation process has started, you can remove the watch from the charger.
I just did it this morning. Once the download to the watch is completed and the installation starts, you can safely remove the watch from the charger.

Fascinating. Does the installation drain the battery pretty quickly? There's obviously some trade-off, but it's annoying to have to leave my watch plugged in for 20~ mins even with a completely full charge.

 

[twinlight]

There is an simple reason for requiring the charger. iOS devices that get messed up updates can be rolled back or unbricked by most users. The Watch has to be sent off to Apple. Requiring the Watch to be charged and power connected removes many risks of screwing up the update.

 

[JTToft]

There is an simple reason for requiring the charger. iOS devices that get messed up updates can be rolled back or unbricked by most users. The Watch has to be sent off to Apple. Requiring the Watch to be charged and power connected removes many risks of screwing up the update.

- Agreed.

 

[Ridge Racer]

Just a quick update.

So after 13h and 10 minutes my battery is at 86%!!!!
I even had to talk over the phone through my watch for a couple of minutes.

Sick sick sick! In a very positive way

6 hours after putting my Series 2 on this morning, it is still at 100%! That can't be right!!!??

 

[happydude]

ummm…yes they do. It's called Podcasts by Apple
https://appsto.re/us/13EuF.i

not sure you realize the main topic of this thread - the apple watch. apple does not have it's own native podcast app for the watch. the link you provide, sure goes to the podcast app but, and hold...for the iPhone - which doesn't offer a watch app. like i said in my original post. next time you give a snarky response, either take a moment to realize what you're responding to, or do a little research.

 

[Donoban]

6 hours after putting my Series 2 on this morning, it is still at 100%! That can't be right!!!??

Battery on my S0 seems to be improved as well. Was 77% when I got home after a day of wearing it.

 

[rjohnstone]

Fascinating. Does the installation drain the battery pretty quickly? There's obviously some trade-off, but it's annoying to have to leave my watch plugged in for 20~ mins even with a completely full charge.

Nope... not at all. When my watch finally finished, it was still at 100%.

 

[jtylee]

13 hr mark on my S0 watch and I'm at 62%. I found this thread cuz earlier today I noticed it was living longer.

*i started my morning off at 6am and 95% battery so in theory I'm 5% off LOL

 

[twinlight]

Looks like battery is a bit better now. Im down to 82% after one day at work. Usually I'm down somewhere between 75-50%.

 

[jtylee]

Looks like battery is a bit better now. Im down to 82% after one day at work. Usually I'm down somewhere between 75-50%.

Nice. I started today off at 100% and 3.5 hours later I'm still at 100%

There is some sort of bell curve with battery life kind of like your gas tank in your car.

 

[throAU]

The Watch seems more susceptible to bricking if the update gets interrupted-- I'm guessing they're making damn sure the watch doesn't lose power during the process.
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Yeah, i'd say the charger requirement is perhaps in case they are doing something to the firmware in the battery controller during the update which could potentially cause DC power loss OR they're being super careful about ensuring your watch doesn't get bricked if your battery is really worn, OR there's a software bug or other sensor problem causing erroneous battery readings.

Its not a big deal. Watch updates aren't THAT urgent that you can't just do them when you take it off for an evening to go to sleep without it while it updates or whatever. If you can't deal with taking your watch off right now, don't upgrade immediately?

And yeah, so far post update to 3.2.2 i've dropped 1% on battery in about 4 hours. I'm impressed.

 

[Analog Kid]

I just did it this morning. Once the download to the watch is completed and the installation starts, you can safely remove the watch from the charger.

I think you might want to reconsider your use of the word "safely". Extrapolating your morning's experience to millions of Apple Watch owners against Apple's explicit instructions is a bit cavalier.

Remember what tends to happen on these forums when a handful of devices brick during an update. There's a reason Apple is cautious.

"Based on these observations, I hypothesize that the conditions were mandated in order to reduce, as much as possible, the possible fail states that lead to bricking, not that they are absolute necessities.

It is just a software limitation that Apple could lift if they wanted to.

I think you get this, but just to be clear, your response doesn't quite fit @wesley96's statement. This isn't a limitation that Apple could lift on a whim-- it's most likely a protection against the watch needing to be returned for service.

I can update my MBP, my iPhone and my iPad without connecting to power, but not my Watch. There is almost certainly a reason for that. It may be a low probability event, and it may not be for the reasons that @Mirollin91 proposed, but it's also not just a limitation that Apple could easily turn off.

 

[applepuree]

Anyone else noticed a change in the haptic tap/sound feedback on unlocking a mac with the watch ? Mine suddenly sounds like a bag of stones being shaken!

 

[atmenterprises]

Is this update going to brick my watch like the last one did that made it so my out-of-warranty watch was going to cost me $250 for Apple to repair?

No thanks.