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Racial diversity has nothing to do with innovation, if anything it causes balkanization and strife when multiculturalism is promoted over assimilation. Japan is one of the most homogenous countries on the planet and yet became an economic powerhouse a generation after being devastated in World War II. Let's not dance around the subject though, "diversity" means less white people, specifically white, heterosexual men. It's blatantly prejudicial and downright evil to bypass qualified people from this group in favor of preferred minorities with the right skin tone.
This premise is ignoring the fact that "growing up in a different culture or lifestyle" is a qualification for a job.
 
It's the quality of the people that matters. Not race or sex.

Both matters. And it is not like you can always say: that male or that female is better. Mostly, they are both good in different ways and than there is room for more equality and preferring the female candidate.
I did countless job interviews and my company hires 50-50. I have never been in a situation where I could not hire a qualified male.
 
"Diversity is critical to innovation"

Sounds nice to say, but can't a room full of white guys be innovative?

Is innovation held back because you have all white guys at a company?

Didn't Apple do some amazingly innovative things before having a focus on diversity? Before Tim declared that they can do better? How is it now critical to innovation when innovation was there before?

If you had all white guys at a company would you say to them, I'm sorry we are going to have to fire a bunch of you because all you white guys in the same room won't be able to innovate, because after all, all you white guys are all the same and we can't have diversity if you're all white.

Seriously people. Don't be misled by these false ideas that are all about feels and have no grounding in the real world. A group of 40 white people can be as diverse as a group of 40 black guys or 40 women or a any combination of races or sex. Diversity is at the character level and not a function of race or sex as you are being misled to believe.

Diversity IS the new racism. Are you willing to be racist and support "Diversity" metrics based on sex or color or would it be a much better idea to gauge the character of a person and then give them a diversity ranking?
 
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Both matters. And it is not like you can always say: that male or that female is better. Mostly, they are both good in different ways and than there is room for more equality and preferring the female candidate.
I did countless job interviews and my company hires 50-50. I have never been in a situation where I could not hire a qualified male.

Hiring 50/50 sounds really good in theory but it could still be discrimination depending on what you define 50/50 as.
If a company has 100 female applications and 5 male applications who all have the same qualification, if all the men are hired and only 5 females, one could say we hired 50/50 for the 10 positions. In reality all the men were hired and IMO there was probably discrimination with the female candidates.
 
"Diversity is critical to innovation"

Sounds nice to say, but can't a room full of white guys be innovative?

Is innovation held back because you have all white guys at a company?

Didn't Apple do some amazingly innovative things before having a focus on diversity? Before Tim declared that they can do better? How is it now critical to innovation when innovation was there before?

If you had all white guys at a company would you say to them, I'm sorry we are going to have to fire a bunch of you because all you white guys in the same room won't be able to innovate, because after all, all you white guys are all the same and we can't have diversity if you're all white.

Seriously people. Don't be misled by these false ideas that are all about feels and have no grounding in the real world. A group of 40 white people can be as diverse as a group of 40 black guys or 40 women or a any combination of races or sex. Diversity is at the character level and not a function of race or sex as you are being misled to believe.

Diversity IS the new racism. Are you willing to be racist and support "Diversity" metrics based on sex or color or would it be a much better idea to gauge the character of a person and then give them a diversity ranking?

If you hire a bunch of people with the same life experience then you don't get innovation.
 
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"Diversity is critical to innovation"

Sounds nice to say, but can't a room full of white guys be innovative?

Is innovation held back because you have all white guys at a company?

Didn't Apple do some amazingly innovative things before having a focus on diversity? Before Tim declared that they can do better? How is it now critical to innovation when innovation was there before?

If you had all white guys at a company would you say to them, I'm sorry we are going to have to fire a bunch of you because all you white guys in the same room won't be able to innovate, because after all, all you white guys are all the same and we can't have diversity if you're all white.

Seriously people. Don't be misled by these false ideas that are all about feels and have no grounding in the real world. A group of 40 white people can be as diverse as a group of 40 black guys or 40 women or a any combination of races or sex. Diversity is at the character level and not a function of race or sex as you are being misled to believe.

Diversity IS the new racism. Are you willing to be racist and support "Diversity" metrics based on sex or color or would it be a much better idea to gauge the character of a person and then give them a diversity ranking?

Very well said.

There's this insidious idea being propagated by Tim Cook and other misguided liberals, that somehow you'll get superior results with a 'diverse' workforce because people come from different walks of life.

This is such a condescending attitude, because it implies that no-one is able to put themselves in others' boots and has no imagination. And particularly in the field of computing, what matters overwhelmingly is quality of mind, not variety. Diversity is not going to improve the dire quality of Apple's software; indeed, it appears to be doing the exact opposite. What Apple needs is more single-minded boffins who know how to write good code in their sleep. People who want to do nothing but that all day long. Those kinds of people tend to be guys, of course.
 
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Let's be honest here, THE only unbiased way for any company to hire is Blind Interviews.

You know nothing about the persons Age, Race, Gender, Physical ability or looks until you give them the job.

THEN you find out what they are like as a "piece of meat" after they have the job based on their skills.

Nothing to do with their sex, size of breasts, colour of hair, what tattoo's they have and wear, colour of their hair, height, age, colour of skin, how they speak etc etc.. Nothing.

Until that is done, it will always be biased in some way based upon the views of the interviewers.
What about people that aren't glib, perhaps hesitate in their speech? What if they are the best person for the job? They will NEVER get a 2nd interview in this scenario.

It's far too complex to make any quick statement that can be all-encompassingly accurate.
 
This is such a condescending attitude, because it implies that no-one is able to put themselves in others' boots and has no imagination.

Lots of people struggle at that. Especially the typically socially inept people who work for big IT companies.

And particularly in the field of computing, what matters overwhelmingly is quality of mind, not variety.

What matters is the software being usable - which is why Apple makes quite such large profits.
 
Rubbish.

Were the men who invented flight from wildly different backgrounds? No.

In fact, innovation stems from the heart of one man, not from a bunch of people.

Initial ideas often come from one person but to refine them into something useful you need more inputs.
 
Very well said.

There's this insidious idea being propagated by Tim Cook and other misguided liberals, that somehow you'll get superior results with a 'diverse' workforce because people come from different walks of life.

This is such a condescending attitude, because it implies that no-one is able to put themselves in others' boots and has no imagination. And particularly in the field of computing, what matters overwhelmingly is quality of mind, not variety. Diversity is not going to improve the dire quality of Apple's software; indeed, it appears to be doing the exact opposite. What Apple needs is more single-minded boffins who know how to write good code in their sleep. People who want to do nothing but that all day long. Those kinds of people tend to be guys, of course.
Do you actually work with developers of OS software? Let me explain something.
Hiring more single minded coders does the following to software:
1) It makes software significantly more complicated
2) It makes software interfaces less useable
3) It makes interfaces less appealing
4) It makes a computer into an appliance instead of the piece of art Macs are

You want a product made by single minded developers, go run Windows Server 2012. If you would prefer a piece of software where art and design specialists make the best looking hardware, the diverse team at Apple have made OS X.

Diversity is critical.
 
Rubbish.

Were the men who invented flight from wildly different backgrounds? No.

In fact, innovation stems from the heart of one man, not from a bunch of people.
Wilbur Wright - Middle aged guy from Ohio
Orville Wright - Middle aged guy from Ohio
Leonardo Da Vinci - Homosexual male who lived centuries earlier in Italy

Wildly different backgrounds.
 
If you hire a bunch of people with the same life experience then you don't get innovation.

Maybe, maybe not. Diversity is great, it brings new perspectives, but it can also be detrimental when divisive. It also depends on what your focus is. If diversity is the goal or if diversity just fills a quota, its not necessarily beneficial; it can even be harmful.

However, if diversity is a step towards a goal of innovation or something else then it can be beneficial. Further, there is a lot more to diversity than skin color, race, ethnicity, and/or gender (e.g., region of country one is from, religious/spiritual beliefs, socioeconomic status [particularly during formative years], sexual orientation, political ideology, family size, marital status, age, intelligence, shoe size, height, weight, health history, and so forth).

Not really trying to be droll with my list of diversities, I just think that focusing on specific aspects of a person (skin color, race, ethnicity) while ignoring or minimizing all the other things that make people who they are results in a myopic view of humanity.
 
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Racial diversity has nothing to do with innovation, if anything it causes balkanization and strife when multiculturalism is promoted over assimilation. Japan is one of the most homogenous countries on the planet and yet became an economic powerhouse a generation after being devastated in World War II. Let's not dance around the subject though, "diversity" means less white people, specifically white, heterosexual men. It's blatantly prejudicial and downright evil to bypass qualified people from this group in favor of preferred minorities with the right skin tone.
Japanese tech companies are failing specifically BECAUSE they are single minded. Apple and Google have consistently proven that different cultures prefer more humanist designs. American and Korean tech companies have essentially destroyed Japanese tech with cultural diversity.
 
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Wilbur Wright - Middle aged guy from Ohio
Orville Wright - Middle aged guy from Ohio
Leonardo Da Vinci - Homosexual male who lived centuries earlier in Italy

Wildly different backgrounds.

Person who invented printing - probably an imperial Chinese bureaucrat.
 
Apple have released more of these reports than products in the last 18 months..

I am not sure why they keep publishing all this, just do it and get to business. I feel like its being pushed down our throats.
 
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Apple have released more of these reports than products in the last 18 months..

I am not sure why they keep publishing all this, just do it and get to business. I feel like its being pushed down our throats.

Because people increasingly care about supply chain details like this...
 
Why no "global race"?

"White" represent about 8% of the population in the world,
so "White"+"Male" should make up about 4% of the humans on earth..

Think it´s a safe bet that the number of white males employed is bit too far from 4% to be comfortable to show.. :)
 
i may get flamed for this but i never understood the american obsession with race and where people are from. like when i was studying abroad people kept asking me "whats my background?" and i didnt even get what they were talking about. "i am half this a quarter of that and a bit of this and that". i was like "i am german ... i guess?" (even though my dad is spanish but why point that out if i wasnt born there)(…)
My guess is that because the Americans don't have a long history as other countries have (name any in Europe, and let's not talk about Asian countries), they pay attention to the "small" details of their history, but that's just my guess.
 
My guess is that because the Americans don't have a long history as other countries have (name any in Europe, and let's not talk about Asian countries), they pay attention to the "small" details of their history, but that's just my guess.

If the americans don't focus on historical details that's a good thing.
 
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