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Apple Releases New iPods
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Well, now, as a Mac user, I have to pay EXTRA to use the new models!! They ony ship with USB 2 cable and a firewire cable is extra! I have firewire on my mac but USB is on USB1. Looks like Apple has been in the Windows market too long, now they are charging Man users extra. Great.
ClarkeB said:
Not neccessarily, I don't think this makes the 1GB Shuffle any less attractive to consumers. The shuffle is meant to be the most simple and rugged form an iPod can take. It is small, light, and sleek. I have three iPods; the original 5GB(1st Gen.), a 15GB(3rd. Gen.), and a 1GB iPod Shuffle. I use each differently, 5GB as a backup drive, 15GB for a home stereo system when docked with my Bose Sounddock, and the 1GB Shuffle for on the go play. But that's why Apple makes so many different models of iPod, because everyone is different and uses their iPod differently.
varmit said:
So that makes Belkin's media reader obsolete. I paid 100 bucks for my media reader, no complaints, the thing saved me a fortune in CF cards. Hopefully apple or maybe even Belkin, who ever the creator is of the add on, has made a more elegant, smaller device.
I like the changes - and am still happy with my 40GB 4G - but am starting to wonder if, perhaps, Apple is presenting too many choices. 4 families of iPods (I'm assuming the U2 version is going away shortly), 7 versions counting only size, 13 versions counting size and color (14 if you count the U2 'pod).
I think the non-photo iPod - as much as I like mine - needs to go to simplify the lineup. The iPod Photo would simply become the iPod, and you'd be back to an iPod/iPod mini/iPod Shuffle lineup. My guess is the non-Photo will go away as soon as they sell all of the screens they have left.
Hopefully, when the mini ends up with a color screen, they will shortly discontinue the non-color-screen versions.
And I do think the 1GB Shuffle still has legs. Some people just can't afford the $200 but can manage the $150. A lot more people like the Shuffle's relative invulnerability to damage. Someone who wants to store tunes and files in a Mac/PC friendly way will still buy the 1GB. However, I see the vast majority of Shuffle purchases being the 512MB one, which stores plenty of music - 8+ hours - for anyone using the Shuffle during exercise, commutes, etc.
I think the non-photo iPod - as much as I like mine - needs to go to simplify the lineup. The iPod Photo would simply become the iPod, and you'd be back to an iPod/iPod mini/iPod Shuffle lineup. My guess is the non-Photo will go away as soon as they sell all of the screens they have left.
Hopefully, when the mini ends up with a color screen, they will shortly discontinue the non-color-screen versions.
And I do think the 1GB Shuffle still has legs. Some people just can't afford the $200 but can manage the $150. A lot more people like the Shuffle's relative invulnerability to damage. Someone who wants to store tunes and files in a Mac/PC friendly way will still buy the 1GB. However, I see the vast majority of Shuffle purchases being the 512MB one, which stores plenty of music - 8+ hours - for anyone using the Shuffle during exercise, commutes, etc.
Zaty said:
Not in the UK it's not. The Mini is £10 cheaper than it was and the charger is £19 (what a rip-off). Oh well, as I said, eBay is my friend
russed said:
I think it's a big disappointment that Firewire seems to be disappearing from the iPod line. Apple exist due to innovation, and giving in to USB is just a big let-down.
jholzner said:
Yeah, I think the move away from Firewire is going to piss off quite a few users. Well may pissed off is a bit extreme, but I am sad to see it.
I can understand why someone would go with a iPod shuffle. If you need a USB drive or an extremely small player for exersize, you'll go with the shuffle over the mini.
What I don't understand is why keep the 20Gig around. The $50 more for the iPod Photo gets you a lot of extra features, 10 more Gigs, and more battery life. I'm thinking this will be the last iPod before the iPod Photo takes its place.
lasuther
What I don't understand is why keep the 20Gig around. The $50 more for the iPod Photo gets you a lot of extra features, 10 more Gigs, and more battery life. I'm thinking this will be the last iPod before the iPod Photo takes its place.
lasuther
Better that than buying the current line of G5's and one month later seeing 3.0 for same price or less. I am getting to the point where I hate buy new computers from Apple. I know things change in the blink of an eye but, Apple need an upgrade program of some kind.cyanide said:
So I guess all the iPod Minis that Pepsi is giving away are Gold 4gb models.
This update was exactly what I expected, especially the 6gb model instead of 5gb like many kept predicting. Why would anyone bother paying $50 more for just 1gb. Anyway, cool beans. Next we should see the 80gb model photo, and hopefully with Quicktime Video and link to digital cameras to extract the photos and videos straight to the iPod. Now that would be schweeeeet!
This update was exactly what I expected, especially the 6gb model instead of 5gb like many kept predicting. Why would anyone bother paying $50 more for just 1gb. Anyway, cool beans. Next we should see the 80gb model photo, and hopefully with Quicktime Video and link to digital cameras to extract the photos and videos straight to the iPod. Now that would be schweeeeet!
zim said:
I think it's OK for them to move over to USB 2.0, it's very nearly as fast, and far more common than firewire. At some point Apple might add Firewire 800 to stay ahead of the game, but it might be overkill for current iPods.
As for charging, I would hope they would include a charger, because so many PCs don't push enough (or any) power through the USB port to charge it that way.
As for other updates, it was a great move lowering the price (and capacity) of the Photo. Even if they don't include the accessories they did before. They need to get volume on these guys to lower component costs, and eventually move color to the whole line. If I didn't just change the battery in my 30gig 3G, maybe I'd consider the 30gig Photo. Heck, it would even fit in my old dock! (it's thinner now)
I think the mini colors have a lot of staying power, but it would have been nice to see a few more shades. Lack of color screen is not a real issue, yet. Price is amazing after edu discount.
It DOES come close to the shuffle, but I think that the same argument that was put forth when the shuffle was introduced still holds: it's a different target. If I go to the gym (and that's a big if
), I want a TOTALLY skip-free player, that weights nothing. mini is good for roaming the streets, but shuffle is the way to go for very active people. And its use as a thumb drive is another good reason to go with it.--DT
sinisterdesign said:
Bondi- a beach in Australia. Hence the colour blue- the same colour as the sea.
tomjleeds said:Not in the UK it's not. The Mini is £10 cheaper than it was and the charger is £19 (what a rip-off). Oh well, as I said, eBay is my friend
Really? In Switzerland, the mini was CHF 369. Now it's 279 + 39 for the charger. (Okay, you don't get the FW cable).
It's an inresting and worthwhile upgrade that rings the death nell for the plain ole' iPod original.
jholzner said:
I just noticed that myself, and that is F*&@ED up, man. Also no iPod now comes with the dock. $20 for a Firewire cable or $40 for the Dock (comes with both cables). For Mac users, that means there was almost no price drop at all. What the hell?!?!
(1)FireWire cable sold separately
Um, I don't think so. Apple wants me to upgrade my B&W do they. Firewire has always been Apple's pride and joy. Why do something like this?
Um, I don't think so. Apple wants me to upgrade my B&W do they. Firewire has always been Apple's pride and joy. Why do something like this?
Zaty said:
Precisely. Previously £179, now £169.
Unless you're only talking about the 4GB Minis? In which case they've gone from £179 to £139, which I guess is good.
How long do people think the 4GB Minis will last? Reckon they've just stuck the new batteries in the remaining stocks?
Good and very bad news
Good news on the photo ipods, actually ok priced, they were so overpriced before.
ipod Mini's...um i am sorry but this is just absolute cr*p. Apple you are the best at disguising price drops. ok so now you can get 6gb for a bit less than 4gb but no powerpoint adapter (extra £20)! And Firewire cable extra (another 15!) So people have to charge it from the computer, how inconvenient!! So ok 6gb for 190 and 4gb for 160 quid with a powerpoint adapter.
Seriously Apple get real, i hope they lose their market share because they are well behind in the mp3 market, for example look at the brand new iriver (same price with adapter) with a 260k colour screen and ability to see jpegs, fm radio and voice recorder. They do not deserve to be the market leaders, ok a colour screen and extras are not necessary but it offers more for your money and more choice that we want for .
Apple wake up
Good news on the photo ipods, actually ok priced, they were so overpriced before.
ipod Mini's...um i am sorry but this is just absolute cr*p. Apple you are the best at disguising price drops. ok so now you can get 6gb for a bit less than 4gb but no powerpoint adapter (extra £20)! And Firewire cable extra (another 15!) So people have to charge it from the computer, how inconvenient!! So ok 6gb for 190 and 4gb for 160 quid with a powerpoint adapter.
Seriously Apple get real, i hope they lose their market share because they are well behind in the mp3 market, for example look at the brand new iriver (same price with adapter) with a 260k colour screen and ability to see jpegs, fm radio and voice recorder. They do not deserve to be the market leaders, ok a colour screen and extras are not necessary but it offers more for your money and more choice that we want for .
Apple wake up
Two New Colors Eliminated?
If you go to armband accessories, you'll notice you can buy them in matching silver, blue, and pink...but ALSO yellow and orange.
Hmm...
If you go to armband accessories, you'll notice you can buy them in matching silver, blue, and pink...but ALSO yellow and orange.
Hmm...
Dang!
I just ordered my wife a mini and I didn't even notice that there is no Firewire cable. Her iMac is only USB 1.1 ... That's just foolish.
I do have a USB charger I bought for my shuffle at least. One more thing...
Does anyone know how to add an item to an already placed order?
And I'm still glad I got my shuffle, even with the $200 4G mini.
I just ordered my wife a mini and I didn't even notice that there is no Firewire cable. Her iMac is only USB 1.1 ... That's just foolish.
I do have a USB charger I bought for my shuffle at least. One more thing...
Does anyone know how to add an item to an already placed order?
And I'm still glad I got my shuffle, even with the $200 4G mini.
