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Apple Releases New PowerBooks
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Here are the latest details re. my 15" 1.67, 1.5 ram (will, once it gets here), 100/7200 rpm:
Ship date: Oct 25, 2005
11:02 PM: At local FedEx facility - SHANGHAI CN
2:56 PM: Picked up - SHANGHAI CN
"Package received after FedEx cutoff" <----- this is written under "details," but the layout is such that it's not clear if it pertains to the 2:56 thing, or in general.
2:56 PM: Left origin - SHANGHAI CN
8:33 AM: Package data transmitted to FedEx
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Any thoughts? I live in Portland, OR
Ship date: Oct 25, 2005
11:02 PM: At local FedEx facility - SHANGHAI CN
2:56 PM: Picked up - SHANGHAI CN
"Package received after FedEx cutoff" <----- this is written under "details," but the layout is such that it's not clear if it pertains to the 2:56 thing, or in general.
2:56 PM: Left origin - SHANGHAI CN
8:33 AM: Package data transmitted to FedEx
*********************************************************
Any thoughts? I live in Portland, OR
stutz said:
I bought mine Friday, though it may not have been considered "ordered" until yesterday (Monday, 10-24). 4 days after ordering means I could see mine Thursday or Friday, eh? Oh I hope I hope I hope. Fed Ex will deliver on Saturdays, won't they?
Well, I ordered mine last Thursday night (2300 CET) and I got it on Monday 0930 CET. Ordering and delivering seems to go pretty smooth for Apple, since my iMac took only 2 days to get to my house. This new PB is adorable and works like a charm 
Arrived!
OK. Very excited - was about to head into work and then FedEx buzzed!
Now typing on my new 15" CTO. For those interested I first ordered last wednesday, but there were some payment problems, so I am very happy to recieve it so soon (FedEx were estimating tomorrow, but I thought friday).
First thoughts:
This is my first own computer (had ones at work/college etc) so am loving it! So quiet compared to an aging PwerbookG3 it replaces.
The screen is great - exactly the same space as I'm used to on my 1Ghz 17" iMac G4 at work.
It connected to wireless seemlessly - clearly somebody in our apartment building has a good connection
The thing was ice cold when it arrived, but is warming up nicly on my knees
The illuminated keyboard is SO beautiful - and you can alter it's brightness. I'm typing in the almost dark here now - just for thefun of it
too many smileys
Anything anybody wants to know?
Peace, Matt
OK. Very excited - was about to head into work and then FedEx buzzed!
Now typing on my new 15" CTO. For those interested I first ordered last wednesday, but there were some payment problems, so I am very happy to recieve it so soon (FedEx were estimating tomorrow, but I thought friday).
First thoughts:
This is my first own computer (had ones at work/college etc) so am loving it! So quiet compared to an aging PwerbookG3 it replaces.
The screen is great - exactly the same space as I'm used to on my 1Ghz 17" iMac G4 at work.
It connected to wireless seemlessly - clearly somebody in our apartment building has a good connection
The thing was ice cold when it arrived, but is warming up nicly on my knees
The illuminated keyboard is SO beautiful - and you can alter it's brightness. I'm typing in the almost dark here now - just for thefun of it
too many smileys
Anything anybody wants to know?
Peace, Matt
My 15" PB BTO should be here tomorrow morning! I just checked the order status and it has arrived at the sorting section in the local distribution hub!
I ordered it last Friday, so that's pretty good, less than a week and there was a weekend in there....
OTB
I ordered it last Friday, so that's pretty good, less than a week and there was a weekend in there....
OTB
I ordered my BTO last Thursday .. arrived in Chicago yesterday ... but had the wrong ZIP code on the address. Two days and four phone calls later ... to Apple and FedEx ... they tell me I should get it tomorrow. Happy it's about to arrive ... disappointed it sat less 1 hour away for two days.On the Brink said:My 15" PB BTO should be here tomorrow morning! I just checked the order status and it has arrived at the sorting section in the local distribution hub!
I ordered it last Friday, so that's pretty good, less than a week and there was a weekend in there....
OTB
Sounds like it's taking around five days for CTO - not too shabby! I'm assuming this is with Apple's free shipping?
How hot does it get?
Well, you mention it gets hot. How hot?
My old Pismo can get rather hot as well when using it at full speed.
Does it feel fast compared to your other computers, which ones?
What about battery time, can you get more than 3 hours which is what my Pismo usually gives me.
Thanks
/Peter
Well, you mention it gets hot. How hot?
My old Pismo can get rather hot as well when using it at full speed.
Does it feel fast compared to your other computers, which ones?
What about battery time, can you get more than 3 hours which is what my Pismo usually gives me.
Thanks
/Peter
Actually ... concerning my post immediately above yours ... it was on two day shipping. Apple just called a told me that they got ahold of FedEx (for the third time) and the book will be delivered tomorrow. Could have saved the extra shipping cost for that.mongoos150 said:
HOT?
Not hot at all really It was just cold from shipping. It's kind of cold here in NYC at the moment. This was very noticable - especially since its metal, and the only other books I've used a lot were plastic G3/400 or 500s.
The hottest area is the RAM slot - this has 2GB of 533/DDR2 in it. Did the older (higher voltage) RAM get hotter still? The back left is also a bit hot (the proc I presume).
Bear in mind I've done nothing strenuous on it at all yet, but it seems noticeably cooler than :A/ a friends 12" 867 that I felt once - hot!, B/ my old supervisor's 667Titanium - it was so hot he fashioned a make-shift heatsink, and used an external keyboard at all times...
Macs I have used in order
233 iMac 96Mb(?)
500 G3 Powerbook 256Mb (?)
1000 G4 iMac 17" 1GB.
(and recently borrowed the profs old G3/400 Powerbook - 128Mb).
I wanted to wait until the current powerbook offered double the specs of the iMac I am using in the lab, as this has seemed in the past a good stepping-point. I would therfore have loved a magic 2Ghz/G4 PB... but (relative to my iMac), 1.67 with the faster bus, faster memory+twice as much of it, much better graphics, and the 7200 HD should be just the ticket for at least a couple of years (as has been the case for all those others on the list.
I certainly seems snappier than the iMac. But part of this could be Tiger... I won't know for sure until I get all my crap on it ;-)
The only word i really have against it is the display - PROs: it is big, bright, and detailed, with great colour - but CONs - and this seems to be ageneral laptop shortcoming - there is noticeable ghosting when moving windows around at speed - I never observe this on the iMac - which, in comparison, has a gorgeous screen IMO. Still - the apparent price you seem to pay for portability/battery life. When I get more space, I will likely run it to an external anyway.
Thus: I am plenty happy
Speaking of battery life: I'm currently just surfing wirelessly, and it's calculating around 4hours fully charged - but I'm sure it will be a lot less with serious usage.
I hope I helped
By the way - the scrolling trackpad is great, and doesn't 'stick' like some early ones I tried at the Apple store so many months ago - I'm slowly getting used to using it...
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The thing is certa
Not hot at all really
It was just cold from shipping. It's kind of cold here in NYC at the moment. This was very noticable - especially since its metal, and the only other books I've used a lot were plastic G3/400 or 500s.The hottest area is the RAM slot - this has 2GB of 533/DDR2 in it. Did the older (higher voltage) RAM get hotter still? The back left is also a bit hot (the proc I presume).
Bear in mind I've done nothing strenuous on it at all yet, but it seems noticeably cooler than :A/ a friends 12" 867 that I felt once - hot!, B/ my old supervisor's 667Titanium - it was so hot he fashioned a make-shift heatsink, and used an external keyboard at all times...
Macs I have used in order
233 iMac 96Mb(?)
500 G3 Powerbook 256Mb (?)
1000 G4 iMac 17" 1GB.
(and recently borrowed the profs old G3/400 Powerbook - 128Mb).
I wanted to wait until the current powerbook offered double the specs of the iMac I am using in the lab, as this has seemed in the past a good stepping-point. I would therfore have loved a magic 2Ghz/G4 PB... but (relative to my iMac), 1.67 with the faster bus, faster memory+twice as much of it, much better graphics, and the 7200 HD should be just the ticket for at least a couple of years (as has been the case for all those others on the list.
I certainly seems snappier than the iMac. But part of this could be Tiger... I won't know for sure until I get all my crap on it ;-)
The only word i really have against it is the display - PROs: it is big, bright, and detailed, with great colour - but CONs - and this seems to be ageneral laptop shortcoming - there is noticeable ghosting when moving windows around at speed - I never observe this on the iMac - which, in comparison, has a gorgeous screen IMO. Still - the apparent price you seem to pay for portability/battery life. When I get more space, I will likely run it to an external anyway.
Thus: I am plenty happy
Speaking of battery life: I'm currently just surfing wirelessly, and it's calculating around 4hours fully charged - but I'm sure it will be a lot less with serious usage.
I hope I helped
By the way - the scrolling trackpad is great, and doesn't 'stick' like some early ones I tried at the Apple store so many months ago - I'm slowly getting used to using it...
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The thing is certa
nph said:
Just go it
Just picked up a 15", what a SCREEN. It is outstanding. Speed is a bit up over the older 1.67 15" (just sold one in prelude to these updates). I am finishing up virtual PC, running pretty sound.
Tried Unreal Tournament, playable, but better on a G5.
They changed the chipset, video RAM speed is a bit up and the screen of course is more responsive. The heat is gone. Running in better performance mode and not bad. Still warm, but not red hot like its predecessor.
I am very pleased. Went on to a Gateway 8510GZ while waiting, very fast and in one month it crashed where it had to have the OS reinstalled, way to go WINDOZE !
Out of all the Macs I have had, I only ever had one crash, Norton. Unintstalled the AV and never had a crash. I normally run 10 to 20 programs at once. I upped the RAM to 2gig.
Way to Go Steve !!
Just picked up a 15", what a SCREEN. It is outstanding. Speed is a bit up over the older 1.67 15" (just sold one in prelude to these updates). I am finishing up virtual PC, running pretty sound.
Tried Unreal Tournament, playable, but better on a G5.
They changed the chipset, video RAM speed is a bit up and the screen of course is more responsive. The heat is gone. Running in better performance mode and not bad. Still warm, but not red hot like its predecessor.
I am very pleased. Went on to a Gateway 8510GZ while waiting, very fast and in one month it crashed where it had to have the OS reinstalled, way to go WINDOZE !
Out of all the Macs I have had, I only ever had one crash, Norton. Unintstalled the AV and never had a crash. I normally run 10 to 20 programs at once. I upped the RAM to 2gig.
Way to Go Steve !!
Same computers (almost)
Spectrum,
Interesting your line-up of computers is almost identical to mine!
Powerbook 1400c (sold)
Original 233 imac 160Meg! (just retired)
400 Pismo 512 (Still a great book with good "feeling" in the keybord and trackpad)
800 iMac 768
Since you feel the upgrade was substantial I suspect I will be even more pleased! I dont really think I need more speed but I hope this PB will last me at least 3 year like all my other macs that I had, starting with the MacPlus
So you dont think the 1.67 is that much more hot than your old Pismo? I know that mine could be quite hot underneath the center after some CPU intesive stuff. I always got arond 3-3.5 hours when surfing using Wifi.
Thanks
Spectrum,
Interesting your line-up of computers is almost identical to mine!
Powerbook 1400c (sold)
Original 233 imac 160Meg! (just retired)
400 Pismo 512 (Still a great book with good "feeling" in the keybord and trackpad)
800 iMac 768
Since you feel the upgrade was substantial I suspect I will be even more pleased! I dont really think I need more speed but I hope this PB will last me at least 3 year like all my other macs that I had, starting with the MacPlus
So you dont think the 1.67 is that much more hot than your old Pismo? I know that mine could be quite hot underneath the center after some CPU intesive stuff. I always got arond 3-3.5 hours when surfing using Wifi.
Thanks
anyone use live and reason on the 15 yet? could someone tell me how it runs
when i get the money i am going to have to buy...so now the question is do i buy one of the new PBs or a used or refurbished one to save money and prepare for whenever an architecture change occurs.
when i get the money i am going to have to buy...so now the question is do i buy one of the new PBs or a used or refurbished one to save money and prepare for whenever an architecture change occurs.
My new PB arrived today -- surprise!
I was expecting Fed Ex to come tomorrow at around 10:30 AM, as that is what the order status report said. This morning I was startled when preparing to leave the house, I discovered a tag hanging on the doorknob from Fed Ex, announcing that they had tried to deliver my package today. Ack! I obviously didn't hear the guy when he was at the door, darn it. Anyway, I had to go out for an appointment, but later on this afternoon I went over to the Fed Ex depot and was able to pick up the package myself -- hooray!
My machine was very, very cold, too, when I first took it out of the box so before I did anything I just let it adjust to the ambient room temperature. It did so within about a half-hour and then I went ahead and plugged it in to the power source and began setting it up. I haven't had it on for substantial amounts of time yet but so far I have not noticed any excessive heat at all, which is good.
This was a busy day and evening -- had to be out for four hours tonight -- so I haven't had a lot of time to set this thing up and play with it, but so far, so good. No dead pixels, everything works as it is supposed to work.... the screen is gorgeous! I am really tickled by the backlit keyboard -- that is so neat to look at and so practical to use. Brilliant!
No problem linking up to my network so right I'm wirelessly connected to the internet. Haven't walked around the house with it yet to see if the wireless connection will be as good everywhere here and/or out on my deck.
So far I haven't loaded much software in here yet, not enough time for that, but I at least did install Office for Mac and get my email up and running. Tomorrow will be plenty of time for Photoshop, etc. I also need to transfer my flles and folders, too, from my old PC so that they'll be in here as well as in my iMac.
I was surprised at how light this laptop feels. I guess the weight is well-distributed, as it doesn't feel any heavier than my old 12" Averatec laptop, which is I think around 3.5 - 4 pounds.
Gotta say, I am really impressed with the way Apple delivers their products. This was beautifully packaged and presented. Opening the box was sheer pleasure. I hadn't seen the power plug before and am charmed by it -- not an ugly old "brick" like so many of them are! This is also a very practical way of doing it, providing the one size for travel purposes and then if someone needs to have a longer cord, providing the extension. Very well thought-out!
I am very excited and pleased with my new purchase and I think that I will really enjoy using both it and my iMac for a long, long time.
OTB
I was expecting Fed Ex to come tomorrow at around 10:30 AM, as that is what the order status report said. This morning I was startled when preparing to leave the house, I discovered a tag hanging on the doorknob from Fed Ex, announcing that they had tried to deliver my package today. Ack! I obviously didn't hear the guy when he was at the door, darn it. Anyway, I had to go out for an appointment, but later on this afternoon I went over to the Fed Ex depot and was able to pick up the package myself -- hooray!
My machine was very, very cold, too, when I first took it out of the box so before I did anything I just let it adjust to the ambient room temperature. It did so within about a half-hour and then I went ahead and plugged it in to the power source and began setting it up. I haven't had it on for substantial amounts of time yet but so far I have not noticed any excessive heat at all, which is good.
This was a busy day and evening -- had to be out for four hours tonight -- so I haven't had a lot of time to set this thing up and play with it, but so far, so good. No dead pixels, everything works as it is supposed to work.... the screen is gorgeous! I am really tickled by the backlit keyboard -- that is so neat to look at and so practical to use. Brilliant!
No problem linking up to my network so right I'm wirelessly connected to the internet. Haven't walked around the house with it yet to see if the wireless connection will be as good everywhere here and/or out on my deck.
So far I haven't loaded much software in here yet, not enough time for that, but I at least did install Office for Mac and get my email up and running. Tomorrow will be plenty of time for Photoshop, etc. I also need to transfer my flles and folders, too, from my old PC so that they'll be in here as well as in my iMac.
I was surprised at how light this laptop feels. I guess the weight is well-distributed, as it doesn't feel any heavier than my old 12" Averatec laptop, which is I think around 3.5 - 4 pounds.
Gotta say, I am really impressed with the way Apple delivers their products. This was beautifully packaged and presented. Opening the box was sheer pleasure. I hadn't seen the power plug before and am charmed by it -- not an ugly old "brick" like so many of them are! This is also a very practical way of doing it, providing the one size for travel purposes and then if someone needs to have a longer cord, providing the extension. Very well thought-out!
I am very excited and pleased with my new purchase and I think that I will really enjoy using both it and my iMac for a long, long time.
OTB
Hi nph, yes they are similar - bear in mind that I didn't own any of them - they were the computers in sequential stages of my graduate career.
We also had an LC III (?), perhaps, at the beginning. The thin beige ones that sat under the monitor. I found it barely usable. It was the blueberry iMac that pushed me into the Mac world
Obviously I have owned some computers - I grew up, perhaps unsurprisingly, on a rubber-keyed sinclair spectrum 48K. It made me the man I am now. I think that's a good thing
Then I progressed onto an Amiga, via a traumatic jaunt with a SamCoupe.
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I think the biggest difference you will enjoy is the display - it truly is exceptional for a laptop. For all those begging for X-bright, I'm glad it isn't. My friend has a Dell with one, and the screen is so reflective and has such a poor viewing angle that it is very troublesome to use (IMO).
The space the 15' gives now is great. You'll be upping from 1024x768 on both the PB and the iMac, right? This will give you almost twice the space now. In this respect, I feel just like I'm using my 17" iMac (although there is more ghosting). If you can afford to carry around the new 17"PB, I'm sure it must be amazing.
I agree with OTB. The laptop feels much lighter than the apparent 5.6lbs they advertise...
AND again: the ambient lit keyboard is beautiful
I just woke up the G3 powerbook (it's a 450 w/o USB nor Firewire) from a long sleep - MY GOD, it is so noisy! It's like someone is running a chainsaw inside. I was going to leave it on to see how hot it gets, but...
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We also had an LC III (?), perhaps, at the beginning. The thin beige ones that sat under the monitor. I found it barely usable. It was the blueberry iMac that pushed me into the Mac world
Obviously I have owned some computers - I grew up, perhaps unsurprisingly, on a rubber-keyed sinclair spectrum 48K. It made me the man I am now. I think that's a good thing
Then I progressed onto an Amiga, via a traumatic jaunt with a SamCoupe.
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I think the biggest difference you will enjoy is the display - it truly is exceptional for a laptop. For all those begging for X-bright, I'm glad it isn't. My friend has a Dell with one, and the screen is so reflective and has such a poor viewing angle that it is very troublesome to use (IMO).
The space the 15' gives now is great. You'll be upping from 1024x768 on both the PB and the iMac, right? This will give you almost twice the space now. In this respect, I feel just like I'm using my 17" iMac (although there is more ghosting). If you can afford to carry around the new 17"PB, I'm sure it must be amazing.
I agree with OTB. The laptop feels much lighter than the apparent 5.6lbs they advertise...
AND again: the ambient lit keyboard is beautiful
I just woke up the G3 powerbook (it's a 450 w/o USB nor Firewire) from a long sleep - MY GOD, it is so noisy! It's like someone is running a chainsaw inside. I was going to leave it on to see how hot it gets, but...
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nph said:
Sounds like everyone is pleased with the screen resolution, great news! Anyone noticing a big difference with the vram doubled? Also I'm a bit dissapointed to hear of no noticable battery life difference....
mongoos150 said:
Not yet, have not had it long enough for the battery time, but should in a few days. The VRAM does not make a difference in games, I have not tried with video yet.
I can tell you that Virtual PC was a dog on the older 1.67 and it appears to run acceptably now. I believe this is due to the extra video memory and the bumped speed of the VRAM.
Suxs being in Oz
I ordered my new 15" powerbook last Thursday (day after it was announced Sydney time) and it's still stuck on "Sent to Manufacturing" and the ship date is "On or before 31/10/2005".
Since rumour has it that the new Macs won't be available in Australia before next week, i guess i'll have to wait until everyone else in North America gets theirs first, so stop ordering them guys! (At least until my powerbook ships) =)
Counting the days...
I ordered my new 15" powerbook last Thursday (day after it was announced Sydney time) and it's still stuck on "Sent to Manufacturing" and the ship date is "On or before 31/10/2005".
Since rumour has it that the new Macs won't be available in Australia before next week, i guess i'll have to wait until everyone else in North America gets theirs first, so stop ordering them guys! (At least until my powerbook ships) =)
Counting the days...
ZX Spectrum
Spectrum,
I took a guess that the ZX Spectrum was where you gotyour screen name from and I was right!
I also started with computers using a Spectrum, a great little computer but credit my "wonderful", ahem, eyesight I have today based on my use of the Spectrum connected to a tv. I still remember the waves ripping across the tv, those were the days... Went to an Amiga after that, which I sold and once I was in College I finally could afford a MacPlus thanks to the outstanding educational discounts they had back in the late 80s. Still remember when I first saw a Mac and whenever I get a new Mac I still get the same goosebumps. (yes, I am a Mac nerd, my wife will definately agree
Do you think your new book will last at least 3 years before we will find ourselves in the situation where we cant run software due to HW requirements?
Thanks, I will stop ranting now.
Spectrum,
I took a guess that the ZX Spectrum was where you gotyour screen name from and I was right!
I also started with computers using a Spectrum, a great little computer but credit my "wonderful", ahem, eyesight I have today based on my use of the Spectrum connected to a tv. I still remember the waves ripping across the tv, those were the days... Went to an Amiga after that, which I sold and once I was in College I finally could afford a MacPlus thanks to the outstanding educational discounts they had back in the late 80s. Still remember when I first saw a Mac and whenever I get a new Mac I still get the same goosebumps. (yes, I am a Mac nerd, my wife will definately agree
Do you think your new book will last at least 3 years before we will find ourselves in the situation where we cant run software due to HW requirements?
Thanks, I will stop ranting now.
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