ccroo said:
Heck no. Any mac will cut DV just fine. But I'd go for at least a 1.25GHz G4 with 1 gig of ram if you want some good speed.
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Heck no. Any mac will cut DV just fine. But I'd go for at least a 1.25GHz G4 with 1 gig of ram if you want some good speed.
ccroo said:
In short, no.
However, depending on what you're doing, you might want a G5.
For home movie editing, an iMac or other G4 should work just fine.
For pro editing (think production company), go with the G5.
Ugh! This is getting so confusing for me. Please excuse me as I am a newbie.
Basically I've started my own small business as a side thing. I'm shooting weddings, sports etc. I already have been shooting for a local minor league football and hockey team. I put together quite a few music videos and a sports montage videos. I'll also be burning these projects, which could be up to 2 hours in length to DVD. I'd like to get a new computer, and I figured a G5 would definitely be nice. By the sounds of it a G4 would do just fine, but I think I'll stick with the plan and get a G5.
I plan on buying from apple as I can get my student discount. I can't buy a refurb as I live in Canada, and I definitely would like the 8x drive.
So here are my questions:
I was thinking of getting the new dual 1.8. (i know for sure I couldn't afford the 2.5). I'm pretty sure I have no need for the PCI slots, so I'm not worried about that. I was all set to buy it, but it seems that everyone is really slamming it! What's wrong with it, and why shouldn't I buy it?
Do I need more than 4GB of Ram? Is it really that bad? I see words like crippled and bad motherboards and audio chirping.
Geesh, I was all set to get my first Mac, wanted to wait for the 8x drive, I've come here reading all these posts, and now I feel like I'd be totally wasting my money if I get the G5 1.8.
Any and all opinions are GREATLY appreciated!! Please help
Basically I've started my own small business as a side thing. I'm shooting weddings, sports etc. I already have been shooting for a local minor league football and hockey team. I put together quite a few music videos and a sports montage videos. I'll also be burning these projects, which could be up to 2 hours in length to DVD. I'd like to get a new computer, and I figured a G5 would definitely be nice. By the sounds of it a G4 would do just fine, but I think I'll stick with the plan and get a G5.
I plan on buying from apple as I can get my student discount. I can't buy a refurb as I live in Canada, and I definitely would like the 8x drive.
So here are my questions:
I was thinking of getting the new dual 1.8. (i know for sure I couldn't afford the 2.5). I'm pretty sure I have no need for the PCI slots, so I'm not worried about that. I was all set to buy it, but it seems that everyone is really slamming it! What's wrong with it, and why shouldn't I buy it?
Do I need more than 4GB of Ram? Is it really that bad? I see words like crippled and bad motherboards and audio chirping.
Geesh, I was all set to get my first Mac, wanted to wait for the 8x drive, I've come here reading all these posts, and now I feel like I'd be totally wasting my money if I get the G5 1.8.
Any and all opinions are GREATLY appreciated!! Please help
Johnkb said:Ugh! This is getting so confusing for me. Please excuse me as I am a newbie.
Basically I've started my own small business as a side thing. I'm shooting weddings, sports etc. I already have been shooting for a local minor league football and hockey team. I put together quite a few music videos and a sports montage videos. I'll also be burning these projects, which could be up to 2 hours in length to DVD. I'd like to get a new computer, and I figured a G5 would definitely be nice. By the sounds of it a G4 would do just fine, but I think I'll stick with the plan and get a G5.
I plan on buying from apple as I can get my student discount. I can't buy a refurb as I live in Canada, and I definitely would like the 8x drive.
So here are my questions:
I was thinking of getting the new dual 1.8. (i know for sure I couldn't afford the 2.5). I'm pretty sure I have no need for the PCI slots, so I'm not worried about that. I was all set to buy it, but it seems that everyone is really slamming it! What's wrong with it, and why shouldn't I buy it?
Do I need more than 4GB of Ram? Is it really that bad? I see words like crippled and bad motherboards and audio chirping.
Geesh, I was all set to get my first Mac, wanted to wait for the 8x drive, I've come here reading all these posts, and now I feel like I'd be totally wasting my money if I get the G5 1.8.
Any and all opinions are GREATLY appreciated!! Please help
The audio chirping is a glitch which will (I hope) likely be fixed on the newer machines.
As to the "crippled" motherboard, it's lower end, simply becasue the new 1.8 is the low-end model. However, it should work just fine for your needs.
Any other questions, don't hesitate to ask
Johnkb said:I was thinking of getting the new dual 1.8. (i know for sure I couldn't afford the 2.5). I'm pretty sure I have no need for the PCI slots, so I'm not worried about that. I was all set to buy it, but it seems that everyone is really slamming it! What's wrong with it, and why shouldn't I buy it?
Do I need more than 4GB of Ram? Is it really that bad? I see words like crippled and bad motherboards and audio chirping.
Geesh, I was all set to get my first Mac, wanted to wait for the 8x drive, I've come here reading all these posts, and now I feel like I'd be totally wasting my money if I get the G5 1.8.
Any and all opinions are GREATLY appreciated!! Please help
I wouldn't worry about it. It's only "crippled" because it doesn't have as many features as the top of the line ones, which is to be expected. I have never used a PCI card on my G4 at the moment, and I don't expect to use one on my G5. Unless you really need PCI-X, or more than 4 GB of RAM(4 GB of RAM ought to be enough for anybody...for now) in the near future, you're only losing a bit of performance for a much better price. The DP 1.8, as it stands, is a great deal.
Multimedia said:
What the hell did you do that for? First of all even if they are 90nm procs, (everyone still seems to be confused about that) there's NO GAIN in performance with the new 90nm procs (clock for clock). So you're paying $200 more for much less machine. Check out the new machine reviews at barefeats.com
By the way--how did you get 128MB? -- that'd have to be 2x 64MB sticks and I don't think that'd be available. As for Motion -- dual 2 GHz is actually the RECOMMENDED machine.
The chirping is not a big deal - I have a DP 2 G5 sitting on my desk right next to my ears. It's very quiet and only does it when performance is set to highest. It can be eliminated with the CHUD tools to correct the "nap" function. Check out the article here: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/G5/G5_noise_tips.html#storytop
I haven't done any of this because the occasional chirping isn't enough to bother me.
you could
you could do that....but if this is a long term investment for you, like it is for me, your machine will not be able (correct me someone if i am wrong) to upgrade to the 64-bit OS when that comes out sometime in the next 2 years or so(that is speculation, but i assume its on the way since the G5 is a 64-bit processor) So, long term your better off to buy the new technology because it will have longer sustainability. does that makes sense?
ccroo said:
you could do that....but if this is a long term investment for you, like it is for me, your machine will not be able (correct me someone if i am wrong) to upgrade to the 64-bit OS when that comes out sometime in the next 2 years or so(that is speculation, but i assume its on the way since the G5 is a 64-bit processor) So, long term your better off to buy the new technology because it will have longer sustainability. does that makes sense?
first...
sorry, this is the first speed bump, they were originally released as SP1.6, SP1.8 and DP 2.0, then they dumped the SP1.8 for a DP1.8....ccroo said:
they were releasedccroo said:
A year ago during the WWDC 2003 held in late June I believe. They shipped 2-3months afterwards I believe.
something like that
well, they wont necessarily have to buy new machines....which is a big savings especially if you want to have tis for 4 or more years, which is my intention. I dont think i will have to buy anything new for a long time, unless the 64-bit OS is some kind of memory junkie needing like 5GB of ram....lets hope that doesnt happen.
ccroo said:
well, they wont necessarily have to buy new machines....which is a big savings especially if you want to have tis for 4 or more years, which is my intention. I dont think i will have to buy anything new for a long time, unless the 64-bit OS is some kind of memory junkie needing like 5GB of ram....lets hope that doesnt happen.
I Was Referring To The 128 MB Video RAM In The 9600XT vs. 64 MB In The 9600 Pro
I Was Referring To The 128 MB Video RAM In The 9600XT vs. 64 MB In The 9600 Pro. I'm gonna try to do the dual 2.5 for $670 more than the refurbished dual 2. $2914 w/AE & Combo & 8% tax educational vs $2244.25% more power for 30% more money.jakemikey said:
#1: Apple wont make os x (or 11 or wutever it'll be called) only available in 64 bit for at least 4 years (although the next version after tiger, maybe even tiger, will probably have a 64 bit version as well as 32). If they do that before then they will p**s off tons of customers who will most likely just go over to windows or look into linux. The migration from 32 to 64 will be slow.
#2: Getting a g4 is not a bad investment, whoever said that may not need the full power of a g5. That is the problem with you picky mac people, you think EVERYONE is a 3d graphics modeler or they do things with audio...so on.... many people are regular home users that just want stability of mac os over windows. When i get my emac g4 in a few days i will bet you 1 trillion dollars (USD) that it will be VERY usable in 2 years. Actually since mac os is going to be updated less it will be usable for much longer most likely.
#2: Getting a g4 is not a bad investment, whoever said that may not need the full power of a g5. That is the problem with you picky mac people, you think EVERYONE is a 3d graphics modeler or they do things with audio...so on.... many people are regular home users that just want stability of mac os over windows. When i get my emac g4 in a few days i will bet you 1 trillion dollars (USD) that it will be VERY usable in 2 years. Actually since mac os is going to be updated less it will be usable for much longer most likely.
your right...kinda
The G4 isnt a bad investment at all, i'm just saying if you look to buy for the future, a G5 is the future, look how long the G4 has lasted...the G5 will prolly last at least that long...so $2000 over 4+ years is worth it in my eyes...i'm no 3d whatever, i am just looking to maximize my investment, thats all.
My motto is "buy tomorrow's technology today"
-plus, i drink a lot of cool-aid
NusuniAdmin said:
The G4 isnt a bad investment at all, i'm just saying if you look to buy for the future, a G5 is the future, look how long the G4 has lasted...the G5 will prolly last at least that long...so $2000 over 4+ years is worth it in my eyes...i'm no 3d whatever, i am just looking to maximize my investment, thats all.
My motto is "buy tomorrow's technology today"
-plus, i drink a lot of cool-aid
You're right and now they are all gone.
You're right and now they are all gone.jakemikey said:
NusuniAdmin said:
I would not take that bet. I bought my G3 iMac over a year after the G4 PowerMacs were out and it still serves my purposes for a home computer just fine. Although, I am thinking of jumping at a G5 iMac if such a creature gets released at WWDC.
pjkelnhofer said:
ya same here, beige g3 upgraded to a 500 mhz g3 and a 7200 rpm 60 gig ibm drive. 352 megs ram. It still runs everything very well, of course its not "instant" but it serves my home use purposes well
10.3 is a 64bit os.. in the bits that count
OS X 10.3 is already a 64bit OS in the parts that count. It has extended memory addressing (physical memory addressing on a G5 isn't actually 64bit). Apple has also provided high performance 64bit math libraries in OS 10.3.
It don't know that we'll have a 64bit clean OS anytime soon, but it doesn't really matter. The PPC 970 can run 32bit code and 64bit code at the same time without a performance hit.
There is lots of code in the OS that won't benefit at bit from being rewriten as 64bit code. The G4 and G3 (and I'm sure earlier PPCs) already support 64bit floating point math, by 64bit, we are talking about 64bit integer math. 32bit math is plenty for most common applications.
There will be code that will become much faster when it is offered with better 64bit support. Encryption/decryption uses a lot of high precision integer math. Compression/Decompression will benefit a good deal.
We'll see more pervasive 64bit support in Tiger, but I wouldn't be surprised if the bigger news isn't that Tiger is compiled with IBM's xlc compiler. Simply using xlc instead of gcc will provide a significantly greater improvement in performance than trying to rewrite trivial code as 64bit.
OS X 10.3 is already a 64bit OS in the parts that count. It has extended memory addressing (physical memory addressing on a G5 isn't actually 64bit). Apple has also provided high performance 64bit math libraries in OS 10.3.
It don't know that we'll have a 64bit clean OS anytime soon, but it doesn't really matter. The PPC 970 can run 32bit code and 64bit code at the same time without a performance hit.
There is lots of code in the OS that won't benefit at bit from being rewriten as 64bit code. The G4 and G3 (and I'm sure earlier PPCs) already support 64bit floating point math, by 64bit, we are talking about 64bit integer math. 32bit math is plenty for most common applications.
There will be code that will become much faster when it is offered with better 64bit support. Encryption/decryption uses a lot of high precision integer math. Compression/Decompression will benefit a good deal.
We'll see more pervasive 64bit support in Tiger, but I wouldn't be surprised if the bigger news isn't that Tiger is compiled with IBM's xlc compiler. Simply using xlc instead of gcc will provide a significantly greater improvement in performance than trying to rewrite trivial code as 64bit.
Completely off topic, but does anyone know how long the longest thread has ever been on this forum? I see that the next post will be the 1000th, and that brought this up.