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macrumors 68000
Jul 27, 2002
Looks like no 3's. Wow...really no changes at all except higher clock speeds at a 90nm process.

Wonder what the stock will do. *cringes*


macrumors 68040
Jun 23, 2003
Durham, NC
It ain't 3.0, but it's still sweet.

Now to bear the brunt of all the "APPLE DIDNT GET 3.0 OMG LUZERZ LOLBBQ!!!1!one" whiners. IBM had trouble at 90nm, not too surprising, Intel did (and still does) as well. I was surprised they made that promise last year; ramping 1.0GHz in a year is VERY aggressive.


macrumors 6502a
Jul 17, 2002
Bay of Fundy
damn i was about ot start a thread about this!! saw it on canada store which i think went up before the others did for some reason

anyway these updates are very odd. too big a gap between 2 and 2.5. and it's only one new speed. and why did they downgrade the dual 1.8??? the one you could have bought yesterday would be better than the "updated" one today! wtf? :mad:

i don't like it, but then again I really want a dual G5 of any speed as it would smoke my 1.5GHz powerbook


macrumors 6502a
Jan 19, 2004
Oy Vey...

Well I guess if you bought a Dual 2.0GHz last year there's no reason for you to feel the slightest bit outdated today! :(

So they just added one new model, wow...that took a year?


macrumors 6502
May 6, 2004
LaMerVipere said:
Well I guess if you bought a Dual 2.0GHz last year there's no reason for you to feel the slightest bit outdated today! :(

So they just added one new model, wow...that took a year?

Yup, this is disappointing.


macrumors newbie
Jun 8, 2004

OMG I am so glad I got an RMA to send back my dual 1.8 yesterday. Almost got screwed out of 500 bucks.


macrumors G3
Mar 9, 2002
2.5 looks fast, especially with that 1.25GHz Frontside bus...

The only not so cool bit is the gap between 2 and 2.5, I would've thought they might have gone for a 2GHz, 2.2Ghz and 2.5GHz...

Either way... looking forward to the benchmark results. :)

Dont Hurt Me

macrumors 603
Dec 21, 2002
Yahooville S.C.
The worst part of this update are the video cards, fx5200 in a $2000 machine??? am i missing something? $50 more bucks for a 9600xt, $350 for a 9800xt in the base machine. Apple has fallen behind in the video card dept, good reason to kill off ADC.


macrumors regular
Apr 23, 2002
So one new Mac to show for a whole year? Not complaining. 2.5ghz is fast. But come on Apple, there have been changes in the graphics world. FX5200? Get real. That card belongs in a $400 PC.

I'm glad to see the PowerMacs come only in a dual processor format now. That definitely makes way for a G5 iMac. But considering the crappy graphics card in the PM, I guess we shouldn't expect to be able to play games in the iMac with the card they'll probably put in that.


macrumors newbie
Apr 13, 2004
$A exchange rate

Taking GST of 10% into account for the 3 models, the exchange rate used comes to .6226 (dual 2.5 GHz), .6110 and .6110. (with edu discount - .6367, .6387, .6248.)

The actual exchange rate is .6980. Compare to .6874 for the Powerbook 15" with Superdrive (and .7187 for the same thing with EDU discount)!!! No sales to Aussies - the Powermacs must be squarely aimed at the US market.


macrumors regular
Jul 24, 2002
THumbs down

They hobble the Dual 1.8 with the same board as the old 1.6GHz single, and still charge $200 bucks more, AND stick to PCI-X slots with already dated video cards. Waited almost a year for a Rev.2, now I'm waiting for a Rev. 3.


macrumors member
Jan 11, 2004

The dual 2.5 is sweet, but as for the other year-old models....humph. If could afford the top of the line model I would have bought one a year ago.

Ok Ok, I know people will say 1.8 is good enough for everyone etc etc, but but but (sticks out bottom lip and goes of to sulk)


macrumors 68040
Apr 3, 2003
bob_the_gorilla said:
Ooh, liquid cooling system...

yeah, i was about to say... i wonder how it works... (edit: only on dual 2.5 machine. details here:

should i light the fire and suggest that 3.0 is still possible at wwdc - just for announcement with later shipping?

i don't think so, but i'm sure some will think new PMs are still coming at WWDC.

with PM update done, WWDC may revert back to what it is - a developer's conference - and not a new hardware announcement event, like last year.


macrumors 68000
Jul 9, 2001
London, UK
Well I wont be getting one, they use last generations graphics cards.

A R9800XT in the highend? What it the point, they should at least be X800pro. Apple had better be upgrading the graphics cards soon or add the X800XT as a Built to order option at WWDC. :confused:
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