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Sorry if this is a dumb question that has been answered but if there is no optical drive what is that disc size looking hole in the back? It isn't labeled on the Apple site.
 
Only TB equipped Macs do according to the monitor's requirements.

Yes the specification stated that TB equipped macs do support. But as I know the plug of miniDP and TB act the same transmitting video signal? if the previous ACD being put down from shelf, there is nothing but only 30" acd support non-TB mac, that's not reasonable.:confused:
 
So no optical drive? Buy one for $79.

Better yet, borrow one from a friend (you have friends, don't you) for the 10-20 times per year you actually find yourself using it.

Wait, there's more! Got your legacy windows machine sitting in the corner gathering dust? Use remote disk utility and handbrake to transfer your valuable DVDs and CDs.

Once you go diskless, you never look back.
 
So no optical drive? Buy one for $79.

Better yet, borrow one from a friend (you have friends, don't you) for the 10-20 times per year you actually find yourself using it.

Wait, there's more! Got your legacy windows machine sitting in the corner gathering dust? Use remote disk utility and handbrake to transfer your valuable DVDs and CDs.

Once you go diskless, you never look back.

Well I don't know about you but I buy a computer to get rid of an old one. I don't just let machines sit around my house. With that being said why would I want to buy a NEW machine that can't replace my old one. So now I have to turn on two machines if I want to install some software or if I want to listen to a cd or watch a dvd. That is just pointless. Some people like to use the mac mini as their media computer/server in their house and hook it up to their tv. Well kind of hard to do that without a cdrom drive. :rolleyes:
 
I'm not concerned about the lack of an ODD. It's clear that digital distribution is the way things are going to be, and especially with iCloud on the horizon, Apple is once again taking the initiative. I remember the exact same concerns people raised when the floppy drive was removed from the iMac back in 1998. A couple of years later, most people had moved on and were none the worse for wear.

The thing is when floppy drives were fazed out it was for a better tech. I had quit using them for a couple years previous. CD/DVD's are still popular for the average consumer, despite what some people try to spew.

I think Apple by trying to kill physical media, it is more interested in creating a device that requires the average consumer to make 100% of his purchases through Apple (App Store, itunes.) In other words good for Apple, bad for the consumer.

All I know they took a great device in the mac mini (which I always recommended to people looking into their first mac) and crippled it. Yes you can add an external drive, but you really wreck the beauty of it.
 
The thing I always fail to understand is why the MBPs, which are mobile laptops and are/should be more constrained in terms of power consumption and heat dissipation, can have the option of dedicated graphics and quad core CPUs but the desktop mac mini, which should have more latitude for power consumption and cooling, does not.

Not to mention that the parts in the MBP are both superior to what you get in the mac mini (6750M w/1GB memory and 2.3GHz quad-core i7).

Why must we choose? I wish they made a mac mini pro which cost more but actually had powerful components in it.

Ruahrc
 
Removing the optical drive was a mistake, they didn't even replace it with anything.

Optical drives are not obsolete the way floppies were when the iMac came out.

Optical storage still has a long life ahead of it.
 
So no optical drive? Buy one for $79.

Better yet, borrow one from a friend (you have friends, don't you) for the 10-20 times per year you actually find yourself using it.

Wait, there's more! Got your legacy windows machine sitting in the corner gathering dust? Use remote disk utility and handbrake to transfer your valuable DVDs and CDs.

Once you go diskless, you never look back.

Is that what you call "going diskless"? I call it going Apple (and then having to borrow PCs to do the real work).
 
If you guys love optical drives so much, why don't you marry one?

Stupid suggestion, obviously. The real question is: with so many limits to what Macs can do why are some people still buying them? To no-BluRay "advantage" we now add no CD/DVD disks (in addition to other crap like no matte screens, no ethernet ports, no USB 3.0 ports, no real desktops, no advanced GPUs, no built-in 3G/4G modems in laptops etc.)
 
I guess now for the Mac Mini, instead of as Apple says, B.Y.O.D.K.M. (Bring Your Own Display Keyboard Mouse) it will be B.Y.O.D.K.M.OD. (and Optical Drive.) Maybe I should copyright that.
 
The arrogance of Steve Jobs never fails to amaze me.

I was onboard when Apple dropped the floppy and replaced it with optical although it was a short term pain I'll admit.

But Steve Jobs whole marketing of iTunes over competing services for years was that music buyers want to own their music and be able to burn a CD. And he scoffed at subscription models to stream music and iTunes won the battle.

Now, the pied piper of Apple is telling the Fanboys, "No, listen to me again, look into my eyes, you don't really want to own CDs and DVDs and play them on your computer or burn music CDs or DVDs, so I'm taking your ability to play them away from your Macs and of course, this will be insanely great!" and by waving his Magic Wand and holding up his famed Reality Distortion Mesmerization device... Introducing iCloud. Babye SuperDrive.

Ok, did you get the impression I'm not buying it this time? I hope so.

I currently have an HDMI cable from my Mac to my HDTV set. Sure, I could go out and buy another DVD player, but if this technology is removed from all Macs, I hate to say it, but I will most likely not buy another home Mac and I've owned Apple computers since 1983!

I understand the logic of not having a Superdrive on a Macbook Air or an iPad. Those are specialized devices, but if it's discontinued across the board, I'm done with Apple.

Who the hell wants a clunky external Superdrive staring them in the face? Not me.

I want the ability to play DVDs and CDs on my Macs, and if I had an Apple TV, that too.
It's just that simple.

So Steve Jobs famed reality distortion field has failed to work this go-round and it's unlikely I'd buy an Apple TV now. Sure I could go out and buy a brand new HDTV set that has a DVD/CD player in it, but I still wouldn't have burning capability. I could even buy a DVD/CD burner.

But once again, WHY SHOULD THAT BE NECESSARY? AND HOW EXACTLY IS THAT A NEW "FEATURE?"

I'm not even certain I want Lion, but I will definitely give it a tryout. I don't like the forced method of distribution (once again Mesmerization device is pulled out), and the lack of ability to OWN something physical (see my iTunes rant above).

I know Steve Jobs likes to force technology down peoples' throats, but I think he's lost it here.
And by the way, I'm one of those people who also agreed with Jobs that Blu-Ray was a "Bag O' Hurt" with all the licensing fees and restrictions.

I just think he's wrong here and I suspect the prices of SuperDrive capable Macs/Apple TVs on Ebay will skyrocket from this. Everyone is going to want the old.

PS: Sorry for the long rant, but I truly feel this way unless they are a niche buyer.
 
Things I dislike about the hardware launch today:

  • Fanfare for a monitor that will not be available for two more months (at least this adds weight to rumor of Mac Pro refresh within 2mo)
  • Non-availability of macbook airs and mac minis at retail stores despite launch PR (not even display models)
  • Images of thunderbolt display stood next to Mac Pro on product page, and beneath that confirmation that it will only work with other machines than the Mac Pro.
Now I know that Lion's release has probably dominated their attention, but if we're to believe the rumors that the hardware has been on hold for this day, then it's quite a sloppy event.
 
The thing is when floppy drives were fazed out it was for a better tech. I had quit using them for a couple years previous. CD/DVD's are still popular for the average consumer, despite what some people try to spew.

Popular for what? Music and Video or as the "sneaker net" media ?
In the former case yes. In the latter case, USB Flash is displacing them. A quick scan at amazon.com shows a 4GB USB drive for $8. Yeah that is more expensive than a blank DVD-R media, but it is gettng cheaper each year. And it is rewritable. ( good news / bad news if trying to archive important data).
 
Popular for what? Music and Video or as the "sneaker net" media ?
In the former case yes. In the latter case, USB Flash is displacing them. A quick scan at amazon.com shows a 4GB USB drive for $8. Yeah that is more expensive than a blank DVD-R media, but it is gettng cheaper each year. And it is rewritable. ( good news / bad news if trying to archive important data).

Oh, and when are they going to release movies and music on Flash drives again? Ummm, never.

I agree with you on the later, but the former is the bigger problem.
 
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