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Apple Releases New Versions of iOS for Older iPhones

urnotl33t said:
Yep. I fully admit, tho, as I wrote in my mini review.. I wanted to like (love?) the Air. I actually was foreseeing it as my new device. I was willing to go for it. But the weirdo compromises and for the price point… I even dig hard through Accessibility settings and managed to turn off Liquid Glass (yes, folks, it can be done… you just gotta work for it). Even then, I couldn’t do it. Air 2, maybe, apple has to fix those weird corner-cuts they did. (Why does the base model have the better camera!?)

I’ll look over the 17e this weekend probably, but I’m not visualizing it as a replacement. I mostly want to see the MacBook Neo for my daughter. At 600 clams, I’m willing to just buy it and use the 14 day return window option.
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I also just had a daliance with the Air.
I had a line on one for $500 from a neighbor ... just couldn't do it ... just too wide/tall, even for $500 (great deal).

I think I'd really enjoy an Air that was more like 5.8"-6.1", with the smaller body to match. (current one is a 6.5" screen)
 
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Astuces iOS said:
Let's go ! Why people still buy android at this point if you get 13 years of software updates !?
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The irony on trying to dunk on Google, when Google's Security teams have to constantly inform Apple of every single vulnerability on their devices. What's the good in Apple keeping these devices around until an outside company has to tell them to patch their devices.

Android, for the record, does patch old devices with Play Services. Some updates have gone back as much as 10 years.
 
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Glad to see thar older devices are getting the update. Apple does provide software support for a long time. Happy to see this!
 
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relaxedpanda said:
The irony on trying to dunk on Google, when Google's Security teams have to constantly inform Apple of every single vulnerability on their devices. What's the good in Apple keeping these devices around until an outside company has to tell them to patch their devices.

Android, for the record, does patch old devices with Play Services. Some updates have gone back as much as 10 years.
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10 years only?
 
Minxy said:
Later updates significantly slow down the phone’s speed. It was the reason I felt’forced’ to upgrade my iPhone 5, because the Safari browser has become so slow it was unusable - there was no good reason for this.
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No, in fact when your iPhone becomes older, it slows down because for example your battery gets older…

For safari this is obvious mate, websites are different today than back then with iOS 10, a lot might not be supported, websites can ask more… This has nothing do to with updates…
 
Astuces iOS said:
No, in fact when your iPhone becomes older, it slows down because for example your battery gets older…

For safari this is obvious mate, websites are different today than back then with iOS 10, a lot might not be supported, websites can ask more… This has nothing do to with updates…
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Updates do it too.
I have some extra phones on older iOS versions and they fly, even with old as dirt batteries.

macOS & iOS have become increasingly bloated and cumbersome over time.
 
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mulatosnarf said:
I miss mine. If I could get one with 17 pro internals I’d so get it
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Wow I feel so vindicated. I hear this same comment regularly when I go out and pay with Apple Pay. I figured that by me holding and using mine for 10 years, that Apple would “hear me”, but it’s clear they don’t (beyond these last few emergency updates).

If people would stick to their guns and hold their red lines, Apple would hear it. The “vote with your wallet” option is real.
Apple should also be hearing:
* this customer had an Apple Watch Series 3 that is no longer attached, (it died) and not replaced with a newer model (because of iPhone SE)
* this customer had AirPods gen 1 that are no longer attached (because they died and again iPhone SE)
* this customer was enrolled in several Health studies but had to withdraw because of no AirPods and no Apple Watch
* this customer had Fitness+ trial but didn’t continue it
* this customer has no way to continue with Fitness+
* this customer has iPad mini 5th gen

How many lost sales and services do they need before they figure it out? When do they figure out the common thread with my two portable devices? (Flat back, no camera warts on either, TouchID on both; there, I did the hard work for them)

Do I need to switch to android and leave the ecosystem entirely for them to get a clue? I’ve been a customer for only 18 years, but still… do they want to throw it all away?

Yes I’m just One. But I’m not the only One.

Renee Descartes had the idea long ago… “are they real people walking by or are they consumerist automatons?”
 
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Astuces iOS said:
No, in fact when your iPhone becomes older, it slows down because for example your battery gets older…

For safari this is obvious mate, websites are different today than back then with iOS 10, a lot might not be supported, websites can ask more… This has nothing do to with updates…
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It’s the web site garbage code. Idiot web developers doing the learned pattern behavior without any second level critical thinking. “Just because you can doesn’t mean you should”.
 
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relaxedpanda said:
The irony on trying to dunk on Google, when Google's Security teams have to constantly inform Apple of every single vulnerability on their devices. What's the good in Apple keeping these devices around until an outside company has to tell them to patch their devices.

Android, for the record, does patch old devices with Play Services. Some updates have gone back as much as 10 years.
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Seems I always have to explain how Android security updates work to people on MR.

Play Services is EXTREMELY limited in what it can update and the majority of severe or critical updates do not get updated this way. Google has made strides through Project Treble or Project Mainline over the years but even the latest Android devices are still waaay behind Apple when it comes to the ability of Google to patch them. Only Pixels could be considered as being similar, and nobody buys those devices.

As to Google finding exploits, your statement is a lie. Google doesn’t find ALL iPhone exploits as your post implies (“every single vulnerability”). Google finds some as does Microsoft and countless other researchers.

Then we have the time Google found an exploit in Safari. And instead of notifying Apple they decided to keep it a secret, modify code on their systems and use it to bypass Safari tracking prevention and mine your data. They were caught and fined $23 million by the FTC, and lucky for Google this was years ago before companies started getting hit with billion dollar fines for similar activity.

I wonder if Google has found any other exploits they kept hidden to benefit themselves?


EDITED: Just check the March 2026 Android updates and there are a lot of Critical vulnerabilities that were updated OUTSIDE of Play Services including one Google says was being actively exploited. Follow the link and see how many were patched by Play Services and how many required an Android update.

Android Security Bulletin—March 2026 | Android Open Source Project

source.android.com source.android.com
 
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urnotl33t said:
It’s the web site garbage code. Idiot web developers doing the learned pattern behavior without any second level critical thinking. “Just because you can doesn’t mean you should”.
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I’d say that’s part of it. Another big reason is older devices were constrained in RAM and processor power at a time when iOS and Android were getting much larger as Apple/Google added new features. So when you updated your smartphone it slowed down due to increased demands from a “larger” OS.

Recent devices are far more powerful and iOS/Android are getting more iterative updates rather then large updates we used to see.
 
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Adam-Jobs said:
In the same boat! Let’s pray.
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The only problem there is, we'll probably never get this! 😡
Instead, we'll have to install the 26 abomination sooner or later. When this will happen to me, I'll be gone to some other smart phone manufacturer, which is capable of running GrapheneOS or something similar. I'll be done with Apple for good or not so good - anyway, I'll be gone...

[edit] ...but Apple will probably further keep bragging a billion+ active iPhones there, although i won't run any iPhone, but will still having at least 3 (then unused!!) iPhones registered to my Apple account and Apple will keep bragging, there are 3 active and repeated (not!!) customer iPhones there - what bullcrap... 🤦‍♂️ 🤣
 
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