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Oh no! Photos really is as bad as the rumours suggested

I can see the logic behind the move from iPhoto and Aperture to Photos but; for users that are comfortable with Aperture, Photos is a big disappointment. Once you have learn't the structure, the way Aperture organises files is a dream. I can navigate my library and output to a range of destinations so quickly. For me, dates are mostly irrelevant, it's the content that counts.
I've tried for the past 6 weeks to love Lightroom but the colorspace complications, and poor interface make it so slow to use. There are some good tools but it's adding hours of unnecessary work and It's quicker to export back to aperture for final output that I can trust. Look's like I'm going to have to try Capture One.
 
yep,,, definite ios-certification...


I would like to see something that comes to iOS exclusive, but not to Mac...

Looks like that ship has sailed.

I was actually hoping the GUI looking "better" not worse.... Apple went in the wrong direction...
 
Opened Photos and... nothing. I don't use iPhoto so wasn't expecting anything to import from there, but I was expecting to at least import from the iCloud Photo Library...?
 
How to view photos full screen?

I have an extremely large collection of photos in Aperture and I'll probably have to make the move to Lightroom at some point.

I thought I'd try Photos.app in a virtual machine to see how useful it is. My initial roadblock I hit is I can't work out how to open and then page through images whilst they fill the whole screen. This was a fairly simple task in Aperture and I would have thought it's pretty standard in a photo management system to allow you to double click on a photo and fill the screen. I can then use the arrow keys to go back and forth and check fine focus and details to rate and compare photos.

For the life of me I can't work out how to accomplish the same task in Photos.app without opening a photo individually in the edit mode. Another option I saw was to select some photos and create a slideshow but that doesn't help me with sorting and rating photos to cull the duds and find the money shot.

What am I doing wrong? Is this product just for looking at lots of small thumbnails to show off how many photos you have?

I've also heard that you can't star rate photos anymore - that sounds like madness? You like or dislike? Why is it so binary?
 
I can't get the 10.10.3 update to work on my 2011 MacBook Air using the App Store update mechanism or the manually downloaded updater. In the App Store, clicking Update causes a progress bar to appear briefly, then disappear. The manual updater runs and restarts the Mac, but it boots into 10.10.2 without installing. I tried re-installing 10.10.2 as well as repairing permissions and resetting NVRAM, with no change.

Any suggestions?

FWIW, I finally was able to download the full 10.10.3 installer through the App Store (which I had tried but failed numerous times yesterday) and installed it.

This has been the worst OS X update experience for me in years. On one Mac, after a couple of failed reboots I saw a startup app's window but no menu bar or doc. On another, it also took a couple of extra reboots and a hard shutdown with the power button. And then there was the MBA saga above.
 
I have an extremely large collection of photos in Aperture and I'll probably have to make the move to Lightroom at some point.

I thought I'd try Photos.app in a virtual machine to see how useful it is. My initial roadblock I hit is I can't work out how to open and then page through images whilst they fill the whole screen. This was a fairly simple task in Aperture and I would have thought it's pretty standard in a photo management system to allow you to double click on a photo and fill the screen. I can then use the arrow keys to go back and forth and check fine focus and details to rate and compare photos

You can double-click the images and page through them, at least I can
 
10.10.3 seems pretty nice but what bothers me is that Photos uses quite some CPU while idling, even hours after the upgrade. I have the iCloud mediathek deactivated, so Photos doesn't upload anything but it still uses the CPU a lot.

Is this just a temporary behavior?
 
10.10.3 seems pretty nice but what bothers me is that Photos uses quite some CPU while idling, even hours after the upgrade. I have the iCloud mediathek deactivated, so Photos doesn't upload anything but it still uses the CPU a lot.

Is this just a temporary behavior?

Yes, it should be temporary. At least that's my experience.
 
Photos is woefully short of features. I guess like all of Apple's other apps, they release a steaming piece of manure initially, then slowly add features back that iPhoto and Aperture users have come to expect over the next year or two? Brilliant... :rolleyes:
 
Combo Update direct links? Where can I find them?
Honestly, I hate the App Store Downloads so much. They don't show filesizes in advance. Unreliable slow downloads very often with resuming the downloads very very badly.... and then it is expected for you to download for each machine...

Hell for low bandwidths, I guarantee you...

Maybe this has already been answered, but if you get Server you can set it up to cache your downloads for you. Then, as long as all your Macs use the same download file, you only have to download it once. This also works (although not as reliably for me) for iOS downloads.
 
Missing Network Utility App

Upgraded to 10.10.3 yesterday. Installation went without errors. Was about to run some network tests and noticed that my Docked icon for Network Utility was missing, had that question mark icon.

Now where did they move it to?


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And there it is /System/Library/CoreServices/Applications

lol
 
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No valid reason to stay on Mavericks. Yes, some people have had issues with Yosemite but they are in the absolute minority.

They're not an insignificant minority. Despite Apple's clamping down on publicity over the issues. Ask them how many are affected and they will hide it. The volumes on the support forums is not small. I personally know 2 people affected and that's just me not moving in Apple circles.
 
I don't think Apple can get software right anymore. 10.10.3 took my 2015 MacBook Pro from a speed demon to a MacBook Pro circa 2009 with a traditional HDD. Slow start up, slow app load times, and slow safari load times. :rolleyes:
 
immediate impression of Photos is not good.

doens't seem faster. I have 100gb or more of photos.

Looks a lot crappier. Very plain.

Iphoto events all got put into one big Photos Album called Iphoto Events. Seems to me.... every Event should have been an album.

It doesn't feel good to change the size of the photos on display when using a mouse. Drag a slider feels kind of meh. Then using arrows to see drill down into or back out by date feels lame too. I would think holding the option and key and scrolling in or out would be more natural.

Last no dragging the mouse over an Event(Album) to see photos inside? That was the great thing about iPhoto.

Options all seem buried in menus. Guess you hit edit first but seems like iPhoto had more quick access icons.

I think they iOS'd it too much. On a big screen it comes across as just too much white and looks all the more plain.

last the iCloud library push. What about letting me save to a wifi drive so anyone can access the library? Will it let me do that? I guess I don't know yet. How does iCloud library work if you just use the free stuff? Not sure yet either. Or what about multi-user support on same Mac? Been crying for that forever, but maybe that's there and I don't know it.

Will give it a chance and see if it grows on me. Disappointed overall based on all the great things I heard in previews.

I've been testing Photos for the past couple of months in the beta. It's far better than iPhoto once you get used to it. There are things missing of course - it IS a version 1.0 product. It's clear that this was the first step Apple had to make to get iCloud Photo Library working across all their devices. It's also just as clear that we should all expect a v1.1 or v2.0 to start adding back some features of iPhoto that are especially missed (e.g. adding/editing GPS info).

But for a 1.0 product, Photos is pretty solid. The speed compared to iPhoto is amazing (35,000 photos in my library). That along with the seamless syncing between devices is a clear win for 98% of existing iPhoto users.

One comment - you can simply drag the converted events over to the album sidebar, not a big deal. Apple was right to put all of those converted events into a folder though.

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Yep, Photos app does suck. Very slow and a CPU hog.

Also, don't know why but now I have hundreds maybe thousands of empty folders in my pictures directories.

Until your library is fully uploaded and processed it's going to be doing a lot of background work. After that I've found Photos to run much better than iPhoto ever did, even on my 2011 MacBook Pro.
 
Argh! I wasted so much time over the years tagging faces in iPhoto and now I find out that while faces continue in Photos, they don't carry over. That seems like sort of a big deal and something that I can't find mentioned anywhere. Does Apple really expect anyone to tag another face when they might just screw us over again in the future?

All of my faces (more than 70 different faces covering more than 35,000 photos) came across just fine
 
Updated my 2011 MBP. Everything went smooth.
I like photos, it is much faster than iPhoto and easier to use. It is obviously not intended for Pros.
However, I think it will take ages to have my library uploaded (30GB) on iCloud.
Mac seems faster, but it's too early to tell. All the apps I tried opened without any issue.

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All of my faces (more than 70 different faces covering more than 35,000 photos) came across just fine

Not a big user of Faces feature, but yes I confirm that they carry over. So does Geolocation info.


My only question is how can I have my family (with Family Sharing etc.) access the iCloud photo library
 
Wow, apple maps anyone!

Just another ******* up as far as I can see. I wanted to sync all my photos which were in my photo stream to the iCloud on the mac. So far all it's done is just picked a few random ones.

It can take a while for iPhoto Library to upload and sync across all your devices.

When I first put our main library in iPhoto Library (35,000 pictures), it took 16 days. But at the end of that 16 days, 3 macs, my iPhone and my iPad all had exactly same number of photos and movies. The same exact albums, everything was there on every device, but it took a while.
 
One comment - you can simply drag the converted events over to the album sidebar, not a big deal. Apple was right to put all of those converted events into a folder though.

They dropped the ball in the organizational dept.

They show individual albums in the side bar. When you have 1000+albums in the iPhoto Events folder you can't possibly drag them out and expect to use the sidebar at all. Your sidebar will show a 1000+ albums. That isn't practical.

And they don't make a distinction between groups of photos you created and these canned saved searches. You have things like Faces and Flagged in amongst your own personal Albums. This bugs me.

Plus they have an All Photos album under the Albums category and then they have a Photos category. Confusing. The two are nearly identical but have different names and are in different places. Only difference is Photos has date headers and All Photos doesn't. But otherwise same pictures in same order.

It is really like they don't want you to have albums(events) of your own. They just want you to use the automatic date/place organization of your photos.
 
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I had the exact same problem! I tried selecting the start up disk in recovery as well, but that didn't work for me. I tried to repair the disk, and it reported it was fine. I'm now forced to reformat.

Happened to me on my 2015 13" MacBook Pro too (but not my 2013 11" MacBook Air). I held down the Option key when booting after forcing the Mac off and was able to select the Hard Drive and boot up normally from there. So far no other problems.
 
A great update for me , everything went smooth from the first time
improved handling of my battery life
improved memory management , had problems with swap used size now it's fine..

MBR mid 2014
 
You kids today! You have it so lucky. All these emojis to choose from.

When I was young, if you wanted to express an emotion in email, all you had was a colon a dash and a parenthesis. And if you wanted to wink, you used a semicolon. Every once in a while you'd stick your tongue out with a capital P. That was the way it was...and we LIKED it!
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If there are nominations for post of the year, you have my vote. ;)
 
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