Wow, MacBooks are pretty close in specs to MacBook Pro's!
I see this repeated a lot and my question is-why do you think that? They seem to be FURTHER apart now, not closer.
We're paying $500 for 256mb+ of vram?
Pretty much. Okay, the CPU is worth quite a bit too, but it's not really worth THAT much (especially since the Macbook Pro isn't built to be used full blast).
Im confused. i still see "intel core 2 duo" listed. Is that Peryn?
Sort of picking on this post in particular, but I see this a lot-the CPU's official name is
Core 2. Not Core Duo. The "Duo" thing just says how many cores/CPUs it has.
512 vram in a notebook? Daaaamn boooy!
It's what it should have had in the LAST update. It's nothing special, particularly when paired with a low end GPU. How about at LEAST giving us an "8700" (which is really a faster 8600) on the low end, and an 8800GTS on the high end (which is really a 9600GT).
what tells you its penryn? It still says core2 duo
The listed specs tell us it's a Penryn. Penryn is also a Core 2.
Does it need a re-design? It is the sexiest laptop out there.
Regardless, it's not built to really push the hardware (just try running the CPU and/or GPU at full blast to see what I mean) and it doesn't have a user replaceable hard drive. Two HUGE issues for some people.
Thank God. Now maybe we won't hear about MBP updates in every other thread.
As others have mentioned-you haven't read this thread. And yes, there will be tons of posts about an update, since this was just the obvious bare minimum Apple could have done.
Yes. VERY MUCH. The people who don't like this update are either made at themselves for not waiting or are one of those people that are never satisfied.
Oh I can be satisfied, but not with a sealed design and a low end GPU.
What do you guys suggest glossy or matte? I am a switcher and sounds like the glossy is a waste of time? Doesn't seem like anyone likes the glossy? Any suggestions?
Matte. Looks fantastic. "Glossy" is just missing the coating, so it reflects everything.
Sorry but this is one LAME update. They could have released this weeks ago. Uses the same exact motherboard. They just dropped in penryn and upped the vram and hard drive and swapped out the trackpad. LAME. No new design, no mag latch, same horrible plastic borders on the edges. No blue ray no mobile wifi, no sd card reader. Sorry but apple is starting to get a little too cocky. I am so sick of looking at the same exact lame old tired powerbook case. It was time for something new 2yrs ago!!
Yup. I thought the delay meant we were finally getting a better design. Or at least...something.
Hmm .. Isn't 3mb shared cache a bit in the standard 15'' low compared to the 6mb cache in the middle range MBP?
Isn't the speed just the same as before the update? - as in no "really" boost?
The high-end model is definitely a boost, but I'd expect the low end model to be better too. It's only knock is it's got 1MB less L2 cache. But it's got a faster clock speed that probably helps even that out, and the new architectural improvements. I'd expect it to be generally a bump.
Hallelujah. We have about a week of silence until the MBP whiners start again.

right back at ya. I'm not one for low end GPUs, nor sealed cases, nor designs that aren't meant for pushing the hardware.
I just bought the 2.4 ghz MBP 13 days ago. I have one day to decide if I should take it back and get the 2.5 $2499 upgraded one. Problem is, I have to pay the restocking fee -- $250.
I would it it were me. You could either save some money and get the lower end model, or for $250 you're basically getting a better amount of video RAM and the equivalent of at least two speed grades faster CPU (at least-the difference can be bigger than that in some apps). Definitely worth it IMO (and personally I wouldn't have bought a new one with this update so close).