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We use every single platform OS.

The bugs are there, it's not a subjective thing.

Have had good words on macOS & Apple several times when credit is due, many examples below.

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We want Apple & Safari to succeed tremendously, otherwise we wouldn't waste our time reporting bugs.

Some others say it's "stable", and that's fine if it makes you happy, but we will disagree on its current state.

None of these links work btw. Tried on all browsers.
Impressive.
 
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They have fixed that annoying bug that caused it to crash whenever you opened a new window. Even though I knew about it I still did it 10 times a day out of habit.
I’m still going through that. I don’t think I for that update😭
 
Just tested with both 'VP9 decoder' and 'WebRTC VP9 codec' in Experimental Features enabled and YouTube still won't show anything about 1080p.

Have you tested this in Big Sur? The release notes imply that they are leveraging the system VideoToolbox framework. Maybe that framework does not have or expose those APIs to Safari yet.

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From the changelog:
Restrict this to internal SDK for now.
 
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And there we go, another half baked release. Since previous version, it can't even open local .html files.

Many of you call this "stable".
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I don't know how you tested (local disk or network drive), and what kind of .html file you tried to open. But it worked with 109 and 110 on Catalina for me.
 
I don't know how you tested (local disk or network drive), and what kind of .html file you tried to open. But it worked with 109 and 110 on Catalina for me.

https://apple.stackexchange.com/que...ordomaincfnetwork-error-1-on-local-html-files

I did. I tried lynx, WorldWideWeb, Netscape 1.0, Omniweb, IE6 etc. All with the express aim of proving you can manage the basic task of pasting a url. Alas, my efforts were in vain. I await another "impressive" and "stable" effort.

You are too smart for a 90 MHz Pentium machine.
 
they still didn't fix the scrolling lag issue on a few websites, though safari works fine...
is it something to do with experimental features, or...?
 
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I hope this fixes an issue I’ve been having with STP running my CPU at 100%. I came down one morning and could hear this loud fan noise and even with the lid shut STP was somehow hammering the CPU and needed force quitting to stop it. I thought I’d left my desk fan on at first it was so loud. I’ve temporarily switched back to regular Safari but will be checking STP this afternoon to see if it’s fixed.
 
The release notes don't seem to mention it, but 110 seems to fix a bug* that caused the Web Inspector to go away once you right-clicked. Like, say, when trying to open a resource in a new tab.

*) Some kind of crash, I'm guessing.
 
Safari preview runs super hot on my machine. i reported to apple. without even loading any pages just upon opening safari it gets hot. as soon as a close safari computer cools down.

and it runs hot without any notable spikes in cpu usage. just heats up like it's its purpose in life.
 
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So I tested VP9 support using a website that checks media mime support and STP release 110 indeed supports VP9 on the browser side. However, YouTube did not load any VP9 video in my limited testing so far. The nice thing is VP9 decoding is provided by VideoToolbox (VT) which can be used by any macOS app (video player, transcoder etc) going forward which is great. Hopefully, they will also expose VP9 encoding functionality in VT as well.

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PS: Upon further inspection, they only seem to support VP9 codec inside MP4 container for now, unless I missed something. Most if not all VP9 videos in YouTube seem to use Webm container instead of MP4. However, they seem to support Webm/VP9 on iOS so it might be coming to the macOS in the upcoming STP releases.


can you confirm whether videotoolbox can be used in bigsur to decode vp9? for ex. in apps like iina? etc.
 
can you confirm whether videotoolbox can be used in bigsur to decode vp9? for ex. in apps like iina? etc.
It seems like VP9 decoding is restricted to internal SDK for now. They might make it public with the upcoming betas of Big Sur. If they do, then it would be fairly easy for any video player to implement it. I also checked VP9 decoding support on STP release 111 but it still does not work, even for VP9 in MP4 container. It loads the video but does not play. Maybe it still requires OS level support which probably is not finished yet.
 
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