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Apple Releases Second Beta of macOS High Sierra 10.13.5 to Public Beta Testers

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Apple today released the second beta of an upcoming macOS High Sierra 10.13.5 update to public beta testers, two weeks after seeding the first beta and three weeks after releasing macOS High Sierra 10.13.4. Today's public beta is identical to the second beta provided to developers earlier this week.

Beta testers who have signed up for Apple's beta testing program will be able to download the new macOS High Sierra beta through the Software Update mechanism in the Mac App Store.

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Those who want to be a part of Apple's beta testing program can sign up to participate through the beta testing website, which gives users access to iOS, macOS, and tvOS betas.

macOS High Sierra 10.13.5 once again introduces support for Messages on iCloud, a feature that was present in macOS High Sierra 10.13.4 betas but pulled ahead of the release of the updated software.

Messages on iCloud is designed to store your iMessages in iCloud for improved syncing. Right now, incoming iMessages will be sent to all devices where you're signed into your Apple ID, but it's not true cloud-based syncing because your old messages don't show up on new devices nor does deleting a message remove it from all of your devices, both features enabled through Messages on iCloud.

The Messages on iCloud feature also allows your older iMessages to be stored in iCloud rather than on your iPhone, iPad or Mac, saving valuable storage space. Older attachments are also stored in iCloud.

No other major outward-facing changes were discovered in the first two developer betas, but the update likely includes bug fixes and improvements to address issues discovered since the release of macOS High Sierra 10.13.4. Because Apple does not provide detailed release notes for macOS High Sierra updates, we may not know exactly what's included until the new software is provided to the public.

Article Link: Apple Releases Second Beta of macOS High Sierra 10.13.5 to Public Beta Testers
 
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Are people finding High Sierra generally good at this stage? I had a bad experience with the first few builds of High Sierra and haven't tried since. the features didn't seem apparent to me, for the downgrades of bugs and shot battery life.

Im still on 10.12.6 Sierra on my 2016 nTB 13"

can't afford to have a crap OS on my only computer
 
thadoggfather said:
Are people finding High Sierra generally good at this stage? I had a bad experience with the first few builds of High Sierra and haven't tried since. the features didn't seem apparent to me, for the downgrades of bugs and shot battery life.

Im still on 10.12.6 Sierra on my 2016 nTB 13"

can't afford to have a crap OS on my only computer
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It has been stable for me since it's release with the exception of some UI glitches.

(Didn't you mean appealing?)
 
thadoggfather said:
Are people finding High Sierra generally good at this stage? I had a bad experience with the first few builds of High Sierra and haven't tried since. the features didn't seem apparent to me, for the downgrades of bugs and shot battery life.

Im still on 10.12.6 Sierra on my 2016 nTB 13"

can't afford to have a crap OS on my only computer
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For the most part, High Sierra is stable for me, but it does eat the battery like a 7 year old at a candy store.
 
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I have the latest HS on my mid 2010 mac pro and it is the stablest OS so far for my computer. I was on sierra but I was getting system freezes that multiplied after the security updates. There has not been one system freeze or crash since updating to HS 10.13.4
 
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justperry said:
It has been stable for me since it's release with the exception of some UI glitches.

(Didn't you mean appealing?)
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apparent or appealing

I noticed almost no difference except some safari stuff which I don't really care about, and the Siri icon looking different in top right

Lyoha said:
For the most part, High Sierra is stable for me, but it does eat the battery like a 7 year old at a candy store.
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unfortunately that wont do for me. thanks for the heads up !

diminished battery life on a laptop that finally got its battery life resolved (went 10.12.5 to .6 fairly recently, and noticed substantial gains whereas before it was kinda finicky) isn't acceptable in my view
 
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thadoggfather said:
Are people finding High Sierra generally good at this stage? I had a bad experience with the first few builds of High Sierra and haven't tried since. the features didn't seem apparent to me, for the downgrades of bugs and shot battery life.

Im still on 10.12.6 Sierra on my 2016 nTB 13"

can't afford to have a crap OS on my only computer
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I've been happy with it so far and haven't had any issues since it was officially released. I did participate in the beta and there were (for me) some minor issues but they were resolved by the time of the final release. I'm running it on a new iMac Pro and a 2013 iMac 27". My apps include FCPX, Logic, Adobe CC (Photoshop, Illustrator, Muse, Audition). If it's your only machine I recommend that you make certain that you had a solid Time Machine backup and then go for it. Full disclosure - since I did participate win the beta I decided to wipe my iMac Pro and reinstalled the OS and all apps to make sure that there was nothing left over from the beta. Probably not necessary but I didn't want to take the chance.
 
thadoggfather said:
unfortunately that wont do for me. thanks for the heads up !

diminished battery life on a laptop that finally got its battery life resolved (went 10.12.5 to .6 fairly recently, and noticed substantial gains whereas before it was kinda finicky) isn't acceptable in my view
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I should include a disclaimer that I do a lot of development and CPU intensive work, and the fact that I switched to a 2016 MacBook Pro with a smaller battery from a 2013 model may have something to do with it.

Edit: Both MacBook Pros are 15 inch
 
Lyoha said:
I should include a disclaimer that I do a lot of development and CPU intensive work, and the fact that I switched to a 2016 MacBook Pro with a smaller battery from a 2013 model may have something to do with it.
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still its something I observed even with more casual use, last I tried HS

wont bother again

upgrading and backing it up, and all , and cloning it back (especially with APFS) is a royal PITA and probably not worth the squeeze

ill hold out longer or wait for 10.14 or just stay put for a while

I saw someone on a MBP with skeumorphic OS X the other day :D
 
I just wish that they fix this. No other major outward-facing changes were discovered in the first two developer betas, but the update likely includes bug fixes and improvements to address issues discovered since the release of macOS High Sierra 10.13.4. So I could upgrade my MacBook Air.
 
Worst major update since Lion. Went from a solid Sierra to a messy High Sierra. Had major issues (memory leaks, flagging video files as potential viruses, slow performance when using the discrete GPU), but since 13.3 everything is stable and performance wise not as bad as before. Can’t comment about battery life since my 2012 15” cMBP can’t last for more 10 minutes.
 
If you still haven't updated to High Sierra, DON'T. Sierra was a better OS, and there are no real benefits with High Sierra (unless you want to use an eGPU). It's basically the same system with a new slower file system (vs HFS), startup and overall response is slightly slower, there are various bugs depending upon which Mac model you use etc...etc... The latest 10.13.4 update made things worse, not better (introduced new bugs with both my iMac Pro and MacBook). This is like walking backwards into the future.
 
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thadoggfather said:
Are people finding High Sierra generally good at this stage? I had a bad experience with the first few builds of High Sierra and haven't tried since. the features didn't seem apparent to me, for the downgrades of bugs and shot battery life.

Im still on 10.12.6 Sierra on my 2016 nTB 13"

can't afford to have a crap OS on my only computer
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10.13.4 Fixed virtually every issue I had since upgrading to 10.13. On my end, seems like it's finally in good shape. I still have issues from an enterprise side with glitchy domain communication, printing to a windows print server and sometimes unreliable SMB share access. Also some of my users at our school regularly get beach balls where the system becomes unresponsive and requires a hard shutdown. But I haven't personally experienced those on my work or home macbooks.
 
That nice, warm, grained table looks out of place. Should be a light flat grey.
 
thadoggfather said:
Are people finding High Sierra generally good at this stage? I had a bad experience with the first few builds of High Sierra and haven't tried since. the features didn't seem apparent to me, for the downgrades of bugs and shot battery life.

Im still on 10.12.6 Sierra on my 2016 nTB 13"

can't afford to have a crap OS on my only computer
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It’s crap. 10.13.4 even broke multi display support, and it’s generally quite buggy. If you’re happy with Sierra, I suggest you stick to it.
 
iCloud Messages works fine for me. If i delete a message on my phone, others are syncing that too.
 
otternonsense said:
It’s crap. 10.13.4 even broke multi display support, and it’s generally quite buggy. If you’re happy with Sierra, I suggest you stick to it.
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iCloud Family Shared Storage (High Sierra only) has been a godsend for our Mac laptops which only have 128GB ssd and were perpetually short of space.

Now all our Macs iPhones and iPads are backed by a single cheap shared 2TB of automatically managed online storage and the OS deals with shuffling files and photos around as needed. Saved me hundreds of pounds in not needing to upgrade or buy bigger SSDs or the pain of external drives or having multiple smaller iCloud storage account subscriptions.
 
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RedTomato said:
iCloud Family Shared Storage (High Sierra only) has been a godsend for our Mac laptops which only have 128GB ssd and were perpetually short of space.

Now all our Macs iPhones and iPads are backed by a single cheap shared 2TB of automatically managed online storage and the OS deals with shuffling files and photos around as needed. Saved me hundreds of pounds in not needing to upgrade or buy bigger SSDs or the pain of external drives or having multiple smaller iCloud storage account subscriptions.
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How is that relevant to what I said?
 
crescentmoon said:
I have the latest HS on my mid 2010 mac pro and it is the stablest OS so far for my computer. I was on sierra but I was getting system freezes that multiplied after the security updates. There has not been one system freeze or crash since updating to HS 10.13.4
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Same here. High Sierra on a 2010 Mac Pro is a rock.
On a 2016 Touchbar MacBook Pro with LG 5K screen, not so much. It crashes a lot.
 
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