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if it wasn't for the missing optical audio (Toslink) output.Spending $200 for an aTV is fine - spending well over $1000 for a new Denon receiver, considering my current one is likely to last another decade or three is out of the question.


If your receiver has Toslink but does not have HDMI, it is old enough to be replaced with something MUCH less than $1000 from Denon. You will get a whole ton of upgrades...including audio out upgrade...for not much money. I know you are already typing in your head "I dont want/need...blah blah"...It's 2016 for christmas sake, if you have need for an A/V receiver, it's time to upgrade to some more current technology...toslink is circa 1990s. If you're talking about your tw-channel audio system then fine...but the ATV is obviously an A/V product.

Sorry but I am so tired of people with outdated old equipment crying about an outdated old technology being dropped.

Besides...got spend $20 on a decent splitter. Problem solved without upgrading the grandpa receiver. I know it's more fun to whine and complain though....
 
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Still no Apple Music. I'd buy an AppleTV 4 today for Apple Music support, if it wasn't for the missing optical audio (Toslink) output. Spending $200 for an aTV is fine - spending well over $1000 for a new Denon receiver, considering my current one is likely to last another decade or three is out of the question.

What about spending $30 for a hdmi passthrough with optical toslink output, until you are ready to upgrade your receiver?

http://www.amazon.com/ViewHD-Extractor-Optical-Converter-VHD-H2HSAs/dp/B00KBHX072
 
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How about an update that allows it actually stream? On my same network, Amazon Firestick, and even the built in Smart HUB on my Samsung flat screen, stream movies flawlessly, while the AppleTV continually buffers. Getting tired of watching the spinning wheel on the AppleTV screen - even after multiple resets and restarts.
I had the same issue till I upgraded my wifi router to an AirPort Extreme ac. Haven't had an issue since and I'm only on 12Mbps VDSL. I can stream multiple HD streams to different devices without an issue and the Apple TV 3 doesn't hiccup anymore. It used to be atrocious.
 
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If your receiver has Toslink but does not have HDMI, it is old enough to be replaced with something MUCH less than $1000 from Denon. You will get a whole ton of upgrades...including audio out upgrade...for not much money. I know you are already typing in your head "I dont want/need...blah blah"...It's 2016 for christmas sake, if you have need for an A/V receiver, it's time to upgrade to some more current technology...toslink is circa 1990s. If you're talking about your tw-channel audio system then fine...but the ATV is obviously an A/V product.

Sorry but I am so tired of people with outdated old equipment crying about an outdated old technology being dropped.

Besides...got spend $20 on a decent splitter. Problem solved without upgrading the grandpa receiver. I know it's more fun to whine and complain though....

Feeling better now?
 
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I assume that this update is like older iOS devices we got. Eventually the experience is slow and horrible so they can force you to buy newer one. I don't even think with the update they added the Apple Music. Ha!
 
Does anyone know if this update breaks the Plexconnect hack? I run Plex through my ATV 3 and don't want to break it.
 
and she has an older iPad which doesn't support the remote App..

not sure, but haven't they restored functionality with the old remote app? to get an old version of an app you haven't already downloaded before on your ipad (e.g. running ios 5) "just" download the app via itunes on a computer with the same apple-id. then you can download an old version of the app on an ipad via the "purchased" screen on itunes. granted, that complicated method is another pathetic joke in lieu of usability.
 
My Apple TV 3 bricked the last time I received an OTA update (wasn't jailbroken). I hope that doesn't happen again.
 
One could only hope they refreshed the UI like on ATV4 but never gonna happen.
the darker one on the 3rd gen is so much better, after returning our 4th I was so much happier with the older UI
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I bought the ATV4 for my Mom thinking she could use Siri to do everything. Wrong!!! When I said something as basic as "Start movie over" Siri came back with "I can help you with the following".... What a joke. And that micro touch pad is EXTREMELY difficult to use and she has an older iPad which doesn't support the remote App. At least I was able to program one of her existing remotes so she can use the arrow buttons on that in lieu of that trackpad. But what is the point of the remote if you still have to use other remotes to supplement functionality? I might buy the old remote (with the tactile buttons) for her because the new one sucks. And I am sticking with my ATV2 until these things get sorted out.
agreed on this, the new remote sucks and the Siri functionality is nothing compared to iOS. returned our 4th gen since I had so many issues (bugs galore) and no Bluetooth keyboard support, new apps on it sucked (even netflix had issues), the remote was so hard to use...
3rd gen all the way, never had issues
 
I had the same issue till I upgraded my wifi router to an AirPort Extreme ac. Haven't had an issue since and I'm only on 12Mbps VDSL. I can stream multiple HD streams to different devices without an issue and the Apple TV 3 doesn't hiccup anymore. It used to be atrocious.
My ATV 3 stutters the beginning of every 3rd or 4th song when AirPlaying from an iOS device. Did a full restore of ATV 3, reset AirPort Extreme ac, plugged ATV 3 directly into AEX via Ethernet, still stutters like Mel Tillis. Doesn't seem to be a network or iOS issue since AirPlay to my AirPort Express works fine. I'm hoping an ATV OS update fixes this, but I'm very doubtful if it is just a security update.
 
My ATV 3 stutters the beginning of every 3rd or 4th song when AirPlaying from an iOS device. Did a full restore of ATV 3, reset AirPort Extreme ac, plugged ATV 3 directly into AEX via Ethernet, still stutters like Mel Tillis. Doesn't seem to be a network or iOS issue since AirPlay to my AirPort Express works fine. I'm hoping an ATV OS update fixes this, but I'm very doubtful if it is just a security update.
well, this issue doesn't happen for me and our Apple TV 3rd gens (two of them) are connected via ethernet. seems like your hardware could have a possible issue
 
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My 4 3rd Gen ATVs seem to do everything I need them to do. I have zero plans to change them out for the new ones until I can get cable channels carte blanche on a newer ATV. Until then, I will stay with what works. Personally I don't need Siri, or an app store to watch my catalogue of movies.
 
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My ATV 3 stutters the beginning of every 3rd or 4th song when AirPlaying from an iOS device. Did a full restore of ATV 3, reset AirPort Extreme ac, plugged ATV 3 directly into AEX via Ethernet, still stutters like Mel Tillis. Doesn't seem to be a network or iOS issue since AirPlay to my AirPort Express works fine. I'm hoping an ATV OS update fixes this, but I'm very doubtful if it is just a security update.
Most likely a hardware issue or compatibility problem with your modem.
 
Interestingly enough, I still use an Apple TV (3rd Generation) as the app I want on the Apple TV (4th Generation) isn't available yet and it's too costly for me to upgrade at this time... and this week I've had nothing but headaches getting the device to turn on. To explain further, the light on the front illuminates, but no signal gets to the TV. Tried multiple HDMI cables, ports on the TV, other TV's, even reinstalled to factory settings.

I do have to wonder if what I was experiencing was happening to more than just me, and this update will stop it from essentially not displaying anything on the TV.

The result to me was that I was very much considering an early replacement, and the new Chromecast for streaming was probably going to be the winner over the 4th Generation.
 
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Most likely a hardware issue or compatibility problem with your modem.
Definitely not a modem issue as that has no bearing on AirPlay. Conceivably the AirPort Extreme could be a factor, but the fact that AirPlay works fine to my AirPort Express (which is configured to extend the Extreme's reach) would seem to rule that out. The ATV 3 is likely the culprit if this isn't common to others around here. I have another ATV 3 in a guest room that I can bring down to my media room to see if it behaves any better. Thanks for all the suggestions though.
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You're showing your age there!
Well, at least I don't listen to Mel Tillis ;)
 
Oh my god, they finally fixed the sleep proxy feature!
Now I can wake my computers remotely again and hopefully this will also fix the Apple TV itself not waking up when I start AirPlaying some stuff.
 
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I have both ATV3 and ATV4. Siri on the ATV4 is remarkably accurate, and incredibly powerful, at least for me. As for Apps; the streaming TV Apps work much, MUCH better on ATV4 than ATV3. And the remote is a giant leap forward. But you are right in that the non-streaming are pretty limited.

Yeah it's good for what it's mainly used for (streaming/searching for shows, etc.) but I'm still salty about how they just cut it off there. It's like they lazily added it because they thought streaming would be all that was necessary. Can't do nearly as much as iPhone's Siri. Also I have an ATV4, but easily would have stuck with an ATV3, if I wasn't a techie person. The ATV3 is a much better value, and the ATV4 is mostly a gimmick if you subtract added value of those limited apps. Siri is useful for convenience, but as the separator for ATV3 versus ATV4, it's debatable.
 
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