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IMPORTANT NOTE IF YOUR FIRMWARE UPDATE IS STUCK

I've been watching my Studio Display cycle between a message that reads "support.apple.com/display/restore" and a broken progress meter for five days.

Last night, I had the random idea to log out of my account and log in as a test user profile. It updated and worked immediately.

… I mentioned this in another thread, I seriously think it's the worst thing Apple has released since the Butterfly Keyboard. A display that runs an entire operating system, what could go wrong…


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I'm one of the ones where this happens every time there is a software update available. I have skipped the last one or two releases because of this. I think I'm finally going to break down and take it in before my Applecare expires.
 
Yep, attempting to update the firmware has given the same issue that I had last time.
It’s just looping round and round and has been for over an hour. I think it’s bricked.
Correction - I switched off the display, disconnected the thunderbolt cable and rebooted my MacBook. Powered it all back up again and it went through the loop twice more and then suddenly my display was back and on version 17. This software upgrade is so flaky as this was the problem that I had last time.
 

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Silly question, but Apple says the studio display firmware 17 requires macOS Sonoma. Surely they mean just to install the firmware and most functions, perhaps aside from the new webcam framing controls, remain backwards compatible.

Nonetheless, just wanted to be sure. Can anyone confirm that a studio display running firmware 17 still works correctly with macOS Ventura, including the webcam?

Have a personal Mac running Sonoma and a corporate one not allowed to upgrade from Ventura for now.
 
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My light is on, but it's in the center of the room, which means it's behind me, so I'm overexposed. The Studio Display Camera is not able to work around this.
Fair enough. It’s definitely not the best quality. No idea why Apple messed up this element of the screen.
 
Seeing all the negativity here, I just have to help compensate a bit.

I have an ASD and I love it and have had no issues with it whatsoever. It's probably the nicest display I've ever owned, and I especially love how sturdy and well-made the chassis is. It blows away the old LG UltraFine. It also functions perfectly as a docking station for my Macbook, supporting all the devices plugged into it without issue.

There, I just had to say it. Ya'll can get back to kvetching now. :)
 
The standard Wide/main camera in an iPhone probably has a BOM cost of probably 10X of what they use in the Studio Display.
This sounds like the problem if that is true. They priced the Apple Studio Display as a premium product (approaching the price of the old 27" iMac with identical display, including the mouse, the keyboard, and ... the COMPUTER ) but didn't back that up with commensurate attention to quality across the board, specifically in the camera.

Continuity is a nice feature, but it isn't a viable substitute. Zoom meetings are often more common than in-person meetings these days, and the convenience of the cleanly integrated in-monitor solution is part of the appeal.

To be fair-ish, again, the build quality is super, the image is excellent (except for low contrast ratio and slow refresh), the speakers are surprisingly nice, and the connectivity is superb. It's the inconsistency that is most jarring.

As for the 10X number ... not doubting you, but curious if you intended it as 1) speculative, 2) hyperbolic, or 3) a verifiable fact.
 
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I may be one of the few that likes the camera. Every time I use the continuity with my 14/15P, I think, "My god I'm ugly! Plus the phone camera re-centers in a way I find more distracting when I'm recording video. No, it's not up to $1799 standards, but it's okay for me.
 
I never understood all the criticism of the camera. I have had hundreds of FaceTime calls with friends and family without given it a thought. Works perfectly fine on both ends. No one ever said, dude your camera sucks.
 
I own the ASD. And I like the ASD.

My coworkers _always_ comment the days I don't bother to use my iPhone as my camera.

I'll just leave it at that.
 
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With the newer beta firmwares I have noticed the display starts up faster from power off, too, which is a good thing.

I have my ASD and a few other things on my desk on a power strip that I flip off when I'm not there to save energy and the ASD comes up nice and quick now when I plug it into my MBP and flip the switch.

Frankly I wish the ASD did better at powering down completely when no computer is connected. It leaves the USB bus and everything hanging off it fully powered even when you unplug it from the computer.
What a strange product.
 
Studio Display camera is le epic fail, doesn't matter how many firmware updates they release.
Only if you've never used it, or have some obsession with seeing every pore in your face. Webcameras are never going to compete with real camears anyway. If I wanted higher quality, I'd hook up my Canon R5 and shoot my Zoom videos in 8K, right?
 
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My 5K monitor doesn’t need firmware updates. It’s served me well since 2016 and I imagine it still has a long life ahead of it.
 
Honestly curious what will happen whenever Apple stops updating the software. My 12 year old Thunderbolt Display is going strong but will these? Apple isn’t going to update the A13 forever.
Even i'm on thunderbolt display and its working fine in all respect except the ports at the back, which are usb2.0. I was waiting for an upgrade but i was not happy with this studio display. was expecting a size bump to 30 inch, was expecting a daisy chain thunderbolt at the back, 120hz atleast. instead they added processor!, 64gb memory!
 
And this isn't even factoring in the other issues, namely the giant elephants in the room being the price tag and the non-removable power cord
The non-user-removable power cord is required by law in the United States when the cable is carrying AC and isn't one of the standard C13/C14 connectors. The Studio Display power cord carries AC and the display is too thin for C13/C14, thus, the cable is "non-removable" (even though it actually is).
 
The non-user-removable power cord is required by law in the United States when the cable is carrying AC and isn't one of the standard C13/C14 connectors. The Studio Display power cord carries AC and the display is too thin for C13/C14, thus, the cable is "non-removable" (even though it actually is).

The M1 iMac doesn't use a standard C13/C14 connector and that's user removable and replacable. The Studio Display's is not, so if that cable gets frayed (which it will if you own a cat) guess where that monitor is going: Straight into the landfill. I'm sure Apple will have a fun conversation with Mother Nature about that

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I get software updates for my light bulbs, which is arguably even more insane!
I felt like a fool updating my light bulb the other day. What exactly was I updating for? I don’t know. I have Philips hue and I don’t know how to use them. Except as regular bulbs.
 
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The M1 iMac doesn't use a standard C13/C14 connector and that's user removable and replacable. The Studio Display's is not, so if that cable gets frayed (which it will if you own a cat) guess where that monitor is going: Straight into the landfill. I'm sure Apple will have a fun conversation with Mother Nature about that

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The M1 iMac has a power brick, which means the part that connects to the iMac does not carry AC.

Also, as I've already said, the Studio Display cable is removable and can be replaced, but it had to be made difficult for users to abide by the law.
 
The M1 iMac has a power brick, which means the part that connects to the iMac does not carry AC.

Also, as I've already said, the Studio Display cable is removable and can be replaced, but it had to be made difficult for users to abide by the law.

Where can I buy replacement cables for a Studio Display then? Web searches all draw up a blank 🤔

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Where can I buy replacement cables for a Studio Display then? Web searches all draw up a blank 🤔
The official Apple Self-Service Repair program will sell you a replacement cable and a tool that makes pulling the cable out easier. An Apple Store can also perform this replacement, potentially for free if the device is under warranty.
 
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