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Piarco75 said:
Salling Clicker and either a Sony Ericsson or Nokia mobile.
Its fantastic - full iTunes functionality (including the artwork of the playing track), PowerPoint/Keynote, DVD Player, desktop (acts like a mouse) and other fun stuff. All over BT.

I'd really like a dedicated Mac remote though, with a small colour LCD display to do everything (and more hopefully) that the Salling Clicker software does. If the Mac Mini's go towards being a complete media hub, such a remote would surely be necessary?

Yeah a dedicated one would be nice but being able to use my phone for free is nicer :) If they just produced a remote they'd be smart because it would work on all BT Macs.

For the record I use an Ericsson and Romeo, which is basically a free version of Salling Clicker. It has all of the features you mentioned, but I'm not sure what the real difference is as I've never used Salling Clicker.
 
zync said:
Yes, it could be an option, but it's something Apple would never produce with their design philosophy, even if they could make it thin and sexy. I hate drive bays because that's just another thing to carry around.

Still don't understand your concern - the drive/bay is part of the machine. Unless you choose to carry an extra component around to swap into it, you are still only carrying around the machine.

Even if you were to make use of the capability regularly, it could just mean swapping the contents of the bay at home/work, and carrying just the machine around all day until you get back and swap it again.

zync said:
Vista is still going to have a registry which is why, unless you never install anything, Windows slows down and needs to be reinstalled every six months or so. That's not something I'm willing to put up with. And while XP is much further along than '98 in terms of stability, it still has it's bad moments.

My one last hated fragment of Windows. That said, the registry is nowhere near as bad as you suggest. A lot of slow down is fragmentation, not registry bloat and that can easily be dealt with.

MacOS X also has it's moments - I've had kernel panics due to dodgy drivers (hardware faults aside, that's all I've ever had give a BSOD on Windows too).

zync said:
Also, I mentioned IE because I do a lot of development and understand that Internet Explorer has not only halted web development for years, but it has also led to tons of developers staying in the dark with regard to current practices and standards. And those same developers produce the web pages we complain about not working in Firefox or Safari, or saying that we can't use their site because of being on a Mac.

It's a reason to hate IE, but not a reason to hate the OS. You aren't forced to use IE, and it's sure as hell handy to have access to a browser that will work with a crappy site when none of the others do.
 
To people who have already ordered:

1. Does Apple charge before they ship, or do they charge your CC once it ships?

2. Do you have an est. shipping date?
 
mongoos150 said:
To people who have already ordered:

1. Does Apple charge before they ship, or do they charge your CC once it ships?

2. Do you have an est. shipping date?

I was charged $257, I'm not sure why or what part of the order that represents. I did get the AppleCare with the student discount for $239...

Shipped on or before Feb. 15 is what the site and Apple reps are saying.
 
I have an external HD and I backed up my PC on it. Can I just hook it up to my new MBP when it arrives in the mail in a few weeks and just transfer the files onto the Mac? I'm completely new to Macs.
 
if the machine shipped your SOL and have to pay 10% restocking. I think if you wait till june time frame you can recoup that money, apple will have update imacs with 64bit cpu and even better graphics chip by nvidia. At least these are my predictions.
 
zync said:
I only say high end because there are only low end DVD players around my house and they don't do it :D but I have seen it done before. Wiki's are not always complete. Unless it is possible to send audio via some unknown wireless spec from a DVD player to a TV, I've seen a DVD player connected to a TV with only an S-Video connection playing both video and audio from a DVD.

What you saw or heard when you saw an s-video cable connected to a tv and heard sound was the tv speakers using a different source for audio..

It is physically impossible for an s-video cable to carry audio and if it could it would not be part of the s-video standards.
 
.jacob said:
I was charged $257, I'm not sure why or what part of the order that represents. I did get the AppleCare with the student discount for $239...

Shipped on or before Feb. 15 is what the site and Apple reps are saying.

Where on the site does it say Feb 15?
 
.jacob said:
I was charged $257, I'm not sure why or what part of the order that represents. I did get the AppleCare with the student discount for $239...

Shipped on or before Feb. 15 is what the site and Apple reps are saying.

I'm guessing the $257 was the $239 for AppleCare plus tax.
 
robbieduncan said:
When you order one you can check the estimated shipping date.

I live in Jersey and Apple stopped shipping here about 3 months ago. Now I have to order it through the local reseller and wait even longer for a new product. :mad:
 
Still trying to decide whether or get a Macbook or an older Powerbook. I need a laptop but there are some issues and everyones thoughts would be appreciated.

1st - speed. I'm a graphic designer and can never have a enough speed. I can also never get enough money so at the moment I happily working with a REV B iMac G5. If I get a Macbook the Rosetta based Adobe Suite will be slow BUT will it be slower than getting a 6months old Powerbook G4?

2nd - I travel interstate a lot - once a month. Each time going through the airport xrays etc. Will this effect (over a sustained period) any portable Hard Drive I take with me? As I'll rely on this to work on both the iMac and the Laptop.
 
rugonnaeatthat said:
Still trying to decide whether or get a Macbook or an older Powerbook. I need a laptop but there are some issues and everyones thoughts would be appreciated.

1st - speed. I'm a graphic designer and can never have a enough speed. I can also never get enough money so at the moment I happily working with a REV B iMac G5. If I get a Macbook the Rosetta based Adobe Suite will be slow BUT will it be slower than getting a 6months old Powerbook G4?

2nd - I travel interstate a lot - once a month. Each time going through the airport xrays etc. Will this effect (over a sustained period) any portable Hard Drive I take with me? As I'll rely on this to work on both the iMac and the Laptop.

you should read the past 48 pages to get an understanding of what the new MacBook Pro will have to offer you. I currently have a PowerBook and am a graphic designer and works just fine, as long as i don't work on large format, high resolution work. For example a 4' x 6' sign, with high resolution images will choke up my Powerbook, but everything else runs just fine.

If you can wait, get an older used powerbook, many professionals worked on that just fine, and you might be able to save a few bucks. Then when the REAL MacBook Pro's come out later in the year, you can sell your powerbook for a few bucks and buy the MacBook Pro, you will have the top machine. This current MacBook Pro is not up to par to the real potential it will have. Trust me... Apple works like this. Save the best for later, so they can cash in. I don't take it personally, it's just business. They gotta do what they gotta do to keep giving us great looking machines, and a wonderful OS.

Good luck. I'm sure you if you do some searching on the forums you will find some more specific information. This topic isn't really what your looking for.
 
this mac book pro is great, but i just hope that it would not have that heat issue again. has anyone said about the temperature yet?
 
grahamtriggs said:
Still don't understand your concern - the drive/bay is part of the machine. Unless you choose to carry an extra component around to swap into it, you are still only carrying around the machine.

Even if you were to make use of the capability regularly, it could just mean swapping the contents of the bay at home/work, and carrying just the machine around all day until you get back and swap it again.

I realize that. I mean it's something else to carry around so that you're not left without functionality. IE, if I had an extra battery in and I needed a Superdrive out in the field, I'd have to make sure I had it with me just in case.

grahamtriggs said:
My one last hated fragment of Windows. That said, the registry is nowhere near as bad as you suggest. A lot of slow down is fragmentation, not registry bloat and that can easily be dealt with.

MacOS X also has it's moments - I've had kernel panics due to dodgy drivers (hardware faults aside, that's all I've ever had give a BSOD on Windows too).

That problem is not due to fragmentation alone. If you defrag the drives regularly Windows still slows down due to the registry. When you have programs that don't remove themselves correctly, the computer has to sort through flawed entries.


grahamtriggs said:
It's a reason to hate IE, but not a reason to hate the OS. You aren't forced to use IE, and it's sure as hell handy to have access to a browser that will work with a crappy site when none of the others do.

It's a reason to hate both, actually. Because IE is bundled with the system, most uneducated users tend to use it. Most uneducated users don't realize that another browser exists (they barely even realize that other operating systems exist). Since uneducated users make up the majority of computer users, IE is the most widely used.
 
Peace said:
What you saw or heard when you saw an s-video cable connected to a tv and heard sound was the tv speakers using a different source for audio..

It is physically impossible for an s-video cable to carry audio and if it could it would not be part of the s-video standards.

I did not say it was a standard. Also, please don't insult me by implying that I do not understand how audio devices are connected to a TV. I don't remember where I saw it, but I have seen a DVD player connected to a TV with only an S-Video DIN connector and no other cable coming out of the TV or DVD player but power cords.

I don't remember specifics. Sorry, that's all I have.

rugonnaeatthat said:
Still trying to decide whether or get a Macbook or an older Powerbook. I need a laptop but there are some issues and everyones thoughts would be appreciated.

1st - speed. I'm a graphic designer and can never have a enough speed. I can also never get enough money so at the moment I happily working with a REV B iMac G5. If I get a Macbook the Rosetta based Adobe Suite will be slow BUT will it be slower than getting a 6months old Powerbook G4?

2nd - I travel interstate a lot - once a month. Each time going through the airport xrays etc. Will this effect (over a sustained period) any portable Hard Drive I take with me? As I'll rely on this to work on both the iMac and the Laptop.

Just a note, every airport I've been to in the past year—in the U.S. and E.U.—have made me take my laptop out of my bag before passing it through the X-Ray machine—so you'll know before you have to do it :)—and it has never done any noticeable damage to my PowerBook. The PowerBook wasn't off either, it was in sleep mode. I assume they'll make you do the same for portable HDs, and it should not have any effect. I doubt the PowerBook has any other special shielding, but I haven't opened one up. When I worked repairing laptops, some computers did though. I doubt that would help in the airport X-Ray though.
 
zync said:
I did not say it was a standard. Also, please don't insult me by implying that I do not understand how audio devices are connected to a TV. I don't remember where I saw it, but I have seen a DVD player connected to a TV with only an S-Video DIN connector and no other cable coming out of the TV or DVD player but power cords.

I don't remember specifics. Sorry, that's all I have.

Not trying to insult you..
Keep in mind the s-video standard isn't just a cable.It's also what the cable connects to..
So you may have seen a non-standard s-video cable connected to a non standard s-video connection on a television AND a non-standard connection on the DVD player..

This makes no sense..s-video wise..
 
Peace said:
Not trying to "insult" you..
Keep in mind the s-video standard isn't just a cable.It's also what the cable connects to..
So you may have seen a non-standard "s-video" cable connected to a "non standard" "s-video" connection on a television AND a "non-standard" connection on the DVD player..

This makes no sense..s-video wise..

That is true, and it's what I meant by saying that it is non-standard. It was probably similar to how a SCART connector can carry both, only in this case it was definitely an "S-Video cable."
 
zync said:
I realize that. I mean it's something else to carry around so that you're not left without functionality. IE, if I had an extra battery in and I needed a Superdrive out in the field, I'd have to make sure I had it with me just in case.

Still comes down to the fact that you have a choice - if you don't want to have the extra thing to carry around and have the possibility of using the drive in the field - leave the drive in the machine. If it's a Core Duo machine, you are still talking ballpark same battery life as the MBP. I can understand why you may not choose to utilise it, I still don't understand why you *hate* it though.

Even then, you could just get a PC without that functionality. I'm not advocating that these choices should be at the expense of the current MBP model - I'm just saying that it's a good thing about the PC market that these choices exist, and I wish we had the same freedom with Apple. You can't fit the entire computer market into 4 boxes - but as things stand, Apple/OS X can only take market share from the part of the market that can be forced into 4 boxes.

zync said:
That problem is not due to fragmentation alone. If you defrag the drives regularly Windows still slows down due to the registry. When you have programs that don't remove themselves correctly, the computer has to sort through flawed entries.

Oh, I grant you programs don't remove themselves correctly, and that can cause problems (same can be said of OS X though - particularly as applications can have installers that shove things in the library, but often don't have uninstallers that remove those items). That can cause things to stop working - not necessarily slow things down.

But it's still pretty quick to use the registry - simple test is to fire up the registry editor... even on pretty naffed up machines, it's still fast to navigate the registry (pretty much instantaneous). Only searching through the registry is slow, but then applications don't do that - they access named keys.

Yes, you can accumulate crap and slow down Windows over time. You can do that on OS X too. What you do have on Windows is a lot more idiots that install shedloads of crap without realising that they are naffing up their system.

zync said:
It's a reason to hate both, actually. Because IE is bundled with the system, most uneducated users tend to use it. Most uneducated users don't realize that another browser exists (they barely even realize that other operating systems exist). Since uneducated users make up the majority of computer users, IE is the most widely used.

Well, in a (wider) sense yes. You could just as easily hate Apple for using (and forking) KHTML in Safari - it may be standards based, but it's still another rendering engine getting significant market share, it's still something else that may have a bug, etc.

That isn't the same as making a choice of a platform that will enable you to do the things you want/need to do, and at the right value.

The fact is that there are things I don't like about all of the platforms that exist. Each one also has it's unique benefits too. It's all about compromise, and by the end of the year, Windows will present me with the fewest compromises.
 
zync said:
I did not say it was a standard. Also, please don't insult me by implying that I do not understand how audio devices are connected to a TV. I don't remember where I saw it, but I have seen a DVD player connected to a TV with only an S-Video DIN connector and no other cable coming out of the TV or DVD player but power cords.

I don't remember specifics. Sorry, that's all I have...
Just to add to the debate on 'standards', I connect my Canon MV30(i) DV Camcorder to my Sony 24" KV?(cheapest in the range at the time widescreen) using just a S-Video cable the camera and TV both just refer to the S-Video connectors and the cable was bought seperately (to connect my Mac to my TV) and was just a 'standard' S-Video cable.

Obviously the Mac only sent video but the camera has always sent audio too, I'd never realised that all three just happened to not conform to the 'standard' in the same way.

I sincerly hope that Apple find a way the fit an HDMI connector to future MacBooks. Is HDMI compatible with a 'standard' DVI connector ie MacBook to HDTV would be A/V while MacBook to ACD would be Video only?
 
I was in CompUSA yesterday, and was told they have the MacBook Pro in stock, but must wait a week or so for Apple reps to set up a display machine. That's a bit strange, considering the Apple store folks say they won't have one to display until it ships from the online store to customers in Feb. Meanwhile, CompUSA has reduced the price of the 15" G4 PB twice, and is now selling the base model (80 Gb HD, 512 Mb RAM) for $1500 instead of $2000 (I refuse to give in to the insulting sales trick of charging $1499 or $1999). I have no intention of purchasing computers from CompUSA, but this might be tempting for those who would do so, although the store personnel say they do not have the capability to upgrade the PB models with larger hard drives or memory.

P.S. I'm a Newbie here who has not owned an Apple computer in years. I have a Dell desktop, and am planning to purchase an Apple laptop and make a 2 step conversion to the Mac platform by replacing the desktop with a Mac product in a couple of years or less. I had a 15" G4 PB on order and cancelled it when the MBP was announced. I have not ordered the MBP yet, am waiting for tests, reviews and debugs. Your posts here thus far are packed with knowledge and are greatly appreciated.
 
15 inch for $1499?

What Comp USA was this? The website still lists it as $1999 and I just called my local store and they confirmed that's the going price.

I was going to buy one tomorrow since they are offering 48 months no interest, but I don't want to get hosed if they're going to be knocking $500 off the price in a week.
 
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