The 10.11.2 beta update has just fallen over and started again. Now says 1 day and 11 hours to complete - yawn!
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Apple Releases Third OS X 10.11.2 El Capitan Beta to Public Beta Testers
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To be fair, they did post about it last month.
https://www.macrumors.com/2015/10/15/iwork-for-mac-ios-gain-el-capitan-ios-9-support/
Well I went back to 10.10.5.......and I'm finding it very very goodLet me know when - or IF I should upgrade from 10.10.5.
I may just remain in the valley.
Much of the MR userbase is out of touch with what most people actually want.
You don't have to change your wants and needs to match the wants and needs of the general population, but iOS is here to stay. Apple's current lineup of products does everything that most people need them to do, and no amount of whining about how "things ain't like they used to be in the good ol' days" is going to have an impact on Apple's future plans.
Basically, it's time for people to actually start switching to Windows instead of just talking about it.
Very well put! Was it Henry Ford that said some what in these words..." If I gave people what they wanted....it would be horse and carriage!" Maybe not his original words, but the idea still resonates.
You have no idea what you are missing out on my friend. OS X Yosemite was the Beta whereas El Capitan is the finished product and by far the best OS X release since Snow Leopard.
"Finished product"...not so much. El Capitan does not play nicely [they disconnect repeatedly] with my NASs connected to this 27' iMac by RJ45 cables.
Yosemite .5 works flawlessly.
I think I actually do. I am running it on my MacBook Air. Just not on my iMac. I don't see any real benefit. Truth is when you have to spend half the unveiling touting the improvements to the Notes app and that little overdue things like swipe to mark read gesture in Mail are the highlight of your new OS you know they've come out with another lackluster release.
Ah, but is it better yet than Snow Leopard? It's working quite well, apart from being worried about the lack of security updates and Trim support for my new SSD.
My version is 10.6.8. Should I hang on until 10.11.8 before making a move? What about the rubbish dumbed-down Disk Utility? Would 10.11.8 still retain the ability to patch on the old Yosemite Disk Utility?
I haven't seen anyone using the Yosemite Disk Utility in Cappy but if it's possible I would very much like a tutorial. The new DU looks like an iOS app.
In my opinion El Capitan is nowhere as reliable as Snow Leopard 10.6.8 is. I was hoping it would be a similar under the hood upgrade but after reading through Apple developer documentation and testing it myself it's clearly inferior at the moment.
Only reason I'm currently using Mavericks is lack of software for 10.6. I am not impressed with current 10.11.1 version, too many bugs and Disk Utility is dysfunctional. Latest .2 beta isn't much better. I plan to stay in Mavericks unless either Apple seriously improves Disk Utility or someone finds a reliable way to use previous Disk Utility in 10.11.
Anyone got any hints on when 10.11.2 might make it to final release?
Installed the beta without thinking and now can't release apps through iTunes connect.
Installed the beta without thinking and now can't release apps through iTunes connect.
Could someone say which build the Public Beta is at now? I have 15A278b installed and it is not showing any updates available, but I think this version is a few months old. I got the newest Magic Keyboard and Trackpad and it says they can't connect and I'm unable to change any settings for them. I thought it was maybe the beta I had installed.
I reinstalled the Public Access Utility and nothing showed up after that. I am trying to download the full Non Beta version from the App Store.
I reinstalled the Public Access Utility and nothing showed up after that. I am trying to download the full Non Beta version from the App Store.
Current public beta, as of November 17, the build is 15C47a, since beta 4 for 10.11.2
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Yes, but going from automobiles back to horses "because more people could afford them and we'd sell more" would be a stupid idea now, wouldn't it.
But that's exactly what you get with OS vs. iOS.
My remarks were aimed at innovation in general. The like or dislike of the OS ( mean OSX here?) and iOS is just ones opinion and those who have difficulty dealing with this issue can vote with there dollars and go to Windows. Innovation and change are the dynamics of any successful industry and no one is required to participate. They can sit on the sidelines and just call it all stupid. Just my two cents.
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My issue with where Apple seems to be headed is that it's not necessarily "innovation" but more like "change it so that our core demographic mindlessly buys the next generation stuff." Innovation from Apple was jumping from OS 9 to OS X, which is what pulled me over from Linux/Windows. Innovation was the original iPhone. I don't overmuch mind sideways changes (tweaking UI behavior/bling, fiddling with apps like iTunes), but I do mind it when key functionality is either broken (the discoveryd debacle) or stupidified (El Capitan's Diskutility app). We're seeing way to much of that sort of problem from Apple ever since Snow Leopard.
You're comment about "love the changes or go back to Windows" is just a non-starter for most people. What we seem to be seeing in the OS marketplace is the "race to the bottom" syndrome that seems to take over any business area when marketing people take over. The attitude is "it doesn't matter how bad our product is as long as it's marginally better than the competition." Maximizing the profits is everything, and if the product is ruined in the process so be it. The marketing troops will just move along to the next business area and kill it off.
Not disputing anyones unique opinion and encourage it even when it is laced with broad assumptions and personal definitions. All I know, is all my equipment works quite well and I have been a life long Microsoft user in the career sector of which did not perform anywhere near what the Apple Products that I have now do. I see the OS X environment growing against the downward trending market over all and many things at Apple must be done well for this to occur.
I have had a few problems with OS X , but nothing like I have had in the past with other software. I guess my real problem is not being negative about my OS X experience.
I hope that what ever it takes for Apple neutralize your displeasure with OS X , gets done. It can only help all involved, but for me never again Windows...been there done that. Maybe Snow Leopard #2.
I agree but in contrast to those that think differently than some posters, I have a broad view point and find the Apple ecosystem superior to other solutions. Apple's patenting is innovative and their over all engineering is overly ambitious at times, but Apple appears to me to lead much more than they follow.
I basically tune into this forum to see the constructive ideas that some of the posters are excellent at providing. Many great and knowledgeable users are here, but defending my positive outlook on the Apple products over semantical differences and piecemeal topics is what I should avoid. The Big Picture is what counts for me.