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Apple Releases Three More Mac Versus PC Ads

What do you think of the 3 new ads?

  • Love it!

    Votes: 251 72.3%

  • Hate it!

    Votes: 10 2.9%

  • Meh...

    Votes: 86 24.8%
  • Total voters
    347
rayz said:
A freeze a day sounds excessive.

Have you had the hardware checked? I've heard about similar problems with low quality memory.
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it does doesnt it.
ran 7hrs overnight hardware test @ apple store...nothing.

in reality, its not how excessive my powerCrack restarts/frezes, its the fact that it does at all, how does the add go?

PC: hi im a p......o had to restart there, you know how it is.
mac: no, actually i dont (with that supid face he makes...lik wtf is he talking about restarts)

i hate those commercials. they truly are targeted at idiots.

my pc hasnt crashed or restarted in over a year
 
Senater Cache said:
it does doesnt it.
ran 7hrs overnight hardware test @ apple store...nothing.
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Mmmm ...

That is very odd. I still believe that you are looking at some kind of hardware fault, rather than an OS problem. The OS is very susceptible to problem hardware.

in reality, its not how excessive my powerCrack restarts/frezes, its the fact that it does at all, how does the add go?
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Don't get excited about the ad; it doesn't have any bearing on any reality of seen in the past three years.

my pc hasnt crashed or restarted in over a year
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Same here. An AMD box running three application servers, a wodge of development tools, office applications and an occasional game. Not a hiccup in years.

But then I have a Powerbook at the moment, which certainly doesn't need restarting once a day either .... :confused:
 
Some_Big_Spoon said:
Flame me if you want, but these ads are not only lame, but ineffective. For some reason Steve-O seems to think that Macs can get by on the cool factor alone.

You want to sell the things? Show the OS, show the apps. Until then, you're setting money on fire.
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I think there's some logic to that opinion- but these ads do seem to be creating a buzz... A lot of my PC using friends have commented on them to me... Obviously they're commenting to me because they know I'm a Mac user, but these aren't the usual comments- they seem to be more curious about restarting, and viruses, and running windows on Macs... That's just something I noticed as a direct result of the ads amongst the few people I know...
 
I tink the ads are stupid. I can't help it- they do nothing for me. I saw a cool computer ad for a pc featuring shaun white and it was so cool- it was basically this compputer can do everything and more. It was a really innovative approach.

And if the mac guy should be young, can't he at least be strikingly attractive?
 
rayz said:
Mmmm ...

That is very odd. I still believe that you are looking at some kind of hardware fault, rather than an OS problem. The OS is very susceptible to problem hardware.



Don't get excited about the ad; it doesn't have any bearing on any reality of seen in the past three years.



Same here. An AMD box running three application servers, a wodge of development tools, office applications and an occasional game. Not a hiccup in years.

But then I have a Powerbook at the moment, which certainly doesn't need restarting once a day either .... :confused:
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I have since reinstalled (clean) OSX and have had no restarts as of yet...however my usage of this machine has gone from daily to once a month.

still, there is no excuse for this powermac being absolutely annihilated in PS and Illustrator performance by my 2-3 year olf athlonXP system with half the ram....wierd. Dont even get started on games...
 
Not everyone....

djerati said:
...Real Mac people are generally more technology savvy than the average end user and dont need these really generic commercials...
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Correct but the ads are not targeting "Real Mac people". They already own a mac.

Bill Gates got ritch by making one good observation: "There are more people in the world who know nothing about computers than there are computer experts. Why not sell to the larger group?"

Have you ever read those reviews in PC magazines where they have benchmarks and under the time required to perform some test they have to put the note "lower is better". A note like that assumes a very stupid reader. The authors likely have reason for their assumption.

I know of one recent Mac "switcher" who bough a refurb G4 iBook. This guy actually thinks he has an Intal Mac and further, he thinks this iBook can run "windows programs" his proof of this is that he can click on a spread sheet and it comes up inside Excel. I am not making this up. It's true. You can not argue with someone who has "proof".
 
BenRoethig said:
It's open to me because Apple doesn't want to take my business nor that of anyone in the prosumer market. We're not cool enough for them and I'm not into the computer maker telling me what I want and how I'm going to use it. I use my iBook for most daily tasks, but my desktop is running windows. Not because I love windows by anymeans, but because you cannot get a machine with at lteast two full size optical drives, two hard drives, an x16 PCI-express slot, 3 PCI(-e x1) slots, and a card reader on this platfom for under two grand and without an army of external devices and wall warts. Apple doesn't want me, but I have no option to go elsewhere while still using OSX.
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They currently do not offer any Intel powered Mac in a tower case. But I'll bet they are orking hard to replace the G5 Power Mac. and it will be available in August. Or so we think.

Apple is only 6 months into this Intel transition. I'm sure that once they complete that, then they will work in filling out the line and updating the Rev A models. But replacing _every_ product in 9 moths has got to be a big job Wait 'till Apple has finishedthat and the engineersare freed up for other tasks.
 
I'm surprised Apple bashing PC thugs haven't countered with their own brand of ads.They would go something like this

"Apples are crap"

"They are crap just because........"

Ad ends

;) :D
 
QuarterSwede said:
Well, the ads have certainly done there job if people are talking about them.
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From a media POV if people are talking about the ads it means they are successfull and thats what most marketing companies want the "water cooler buzz" as they call it, where people are commenting on the ad and putting their own feedback towards the product.
 
I think these ad's work brilliantly, they serve their purpose.

So many people that I've spoken to about Mac's have misconceptions (won't run the same software, completely different language I wouldn't be able to learn it, too expensive, I like Windows) and these adverts tackle all of these in a very effective manner. Remember these are just single 30 second spots on TV, people aren't going to analyse them in the way the way that is being done at the moment. And about the restarting, that is not about Apple trying to seem superiour, it is a fact to the consumer. The mass markets knows and truly believes that computers will always freeze and have to be restarted, whether it happens on their machines now or not, people are stupid, the technology looks pretty much the same so there is no reason to think it has changed. Apple takes advantage of this fact and says "hey, you know how you think your computer always has to restart, well ours don't! come buy one"

It's simply a stepping stone for the consumers, you can't convey enough information to sway them in 30 seconds. Damn good job if you ask me.
 
ChrisA said:
They currently do not offer any Intel powered Mac in a tower case. But I'll bet they are orking hard to replace the G5 Power Mac. and it will be available in August. Or so we think.

Apple is only 6 months into this Intel transition. I'm sure that once they complete that, then they will work in filling out the line and updating the Rev A models. But replacing _every_ product in 9 moths has got to be a big job Wait 'till Apple has finishedthat and the engineersare freed up for other tasks.
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They didn't have a prosumer Mac in the first place to replace.

Mac Mini-Entry level consumer
iMac- Mid-level consumer
none-Prosumer
PowerMac: High end Professional workstation
 
JimmyB248 said:
And about the restarting, that is not about Apple trying to seem superiour, it is a fact to the consumer. The mass markets knows and truly believes that computers will always freeze and have to be restarted, whether it happens on their machines now or not, people are stupid, the technology looks pretty much the same so there is no reason to think it has changed. Apple takes advantage of this fact and says "hey, you know how you think your computer always has to restart, well ours don't! come buy one"
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That is definitely true. I used to always think that computers need to be often restarted, whether you wanted them to or not. And then I found out about Macs. This was last year, btw, before any of these ads. I've been wanting one ever since. Now I know Macs must have to inevitably restart from time to time (updates, rare crashes) but not nearly as much as I need to restart my Dell laptop. :rolleyes:

And for you people who are going to criticize Apple and Jimmy for saying "people are stupid", Microsoft made money by selling crappy computers to the larger market of the people who don't know much about computers, as opposed to the smaller market of compu-wise people who are a little smarter than the average PC buyer. So shush. :p
 
zephead said:
Microsoft made money by selling crappy computers to the larger market of the people who don't know much about computers
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Yep, the ad is just for you ... :rolleyes:
 
Really though, if you owned a computer company who knew to themselves that their products weren't all that great, then who would you rather sell to, people who don't know enough about computers to notice the faults in them, or to computer experts who would pick out every little thing that was wrong with it, and subsequently wouldn't buy the product? When Microsoft was first making operating systems, the majority of the public knew barely anything about computers. Needless to say, there was a much smaller percentage of people who actually knew things about computers. That's actually a brilliant marketing move by Microsoft, although it's not right, but that's marketing for you.

And yes, that ads are for people like me with sh*tty PC's that want something better. I can totally relate my PC to the PC guy.

-My Dell regularly freezes on me
-I have to go through the whole driver installation process everytime I plug any of my devices into a different USB port
-Several times I've had to backup my files and reformat my computer because of a virus
-After the reformat, I have to install all my stuff (e.g. Windows Updates, AVG, ZoneAlarm, Spybot, Ad-Aware, Firefox, iTunes, etc.) and re-configure them before I can actually use my computer for what I want to use it for
-Make your own movies? A centralized photo program? A program I can use my guitar with? On my computer? LOL, you've GOT to be kidding.

So, yes, the ads are aimed at people like me with computers like mine. Why? Windows sucks ass. That's my opinion from experience. What? Windows works fine for you? Good for you! I'm glad you have a computer that works for you. So quit bagging on people who like Macs just because their choices aren't the same as yours. You have your choice, and they have theirs. Deal with it.
 
zephead said:
Really though, if you owned a computer company who knew to themselves that their products weren't all that great, then who would you rather sell to, people who don't know enough about computers to notice the faults in them, or to computer experts who would pick out every little thing that was wrong with it, and subsequently wouldn't buy the product? When Microsoft was first making operating systems, the majority of the public knew barely anything about computers. Needless to say, there was a much smaller percentage of people who actually knew things about computers. That's actually a brilliant marketing move by Microsoft, although it's not right, but that's marketing for you.

And yes, that ads are for people like me with sh*tty PC's that want something better. I can totally relate my PC to the PC guy.
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Uh Huh ... :rolleyes:

-My Dell regularly freezes on me
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Yep, here it comes .... :rolleyes:

-I have to go through the whole driver installation process everytime I plug any of my devices into a different USB port
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Right ... :rolleyes:

-Several times I've had to backup my files and reformat my computer because of a virus
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Of course, yes .... :rolleyes:
"Millions of viruses as soon as I switched it on". Yep. Got it.

-After the reformat, I have to install all my stuff (e.g. Windows Updates, AVG, ZoneAlarm, Spybot, Ad-Aware, Firefox, iTunes, etc.) and re-configure them before I can actually use my computer for what I want to use it for
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Yepindeedy. You have to do that at least several times a day I'm sure ... :rolleyes:

-Make your own movies? A centralized photo program? A program I can use my guitar with? On my computer? LOL, you've GOT to be kidding.
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Of course, I forgot that there are absolutely no photo, movie or music applications for Windows .... :rolleyes:

So, yes, the ads are aimed at people like me with computers like mine. Why? Windows sucks ass. That's my opinion from experience. What? Windows works fine for you? Good for you! I'm glad you have a computer that works for you. So quit bagging on people who like Macs just because their choices aren't the same as yours. it.
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Hey, if you feel 'bagged' (?), then that's your problem.

Deal with it.
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And strangely enough, I have nothing to deal with. Perhaps that's because my choice of computer, isn't linked to my self-esteem.
 
Senater Cache said:
I have since reinstalled (clean) OSX and have had no restarts as of yet...however my usage of this machine has gone from daily to once a month.

still, there is no excuse for this powermac being absolutely annihilated in PS and Illustrator performance by my 2-3 year olf athlonXP system with half the ram....wierd. Dont even get started on games...
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Personally, I'd just keep beatinng on Apple's door until they sort the problem out. If you've paid a premium for the machine, then don't let it just sit broken in a corner. They will sort it out, but sometimes, you have to be a bit firm with them.

As for the app performance; well, most companies do tend to concentrate a lot more on optimising their stuff for Windows/Intel. Now that Apple is making the exact same PCs, then I think we'll start to see real app performance improvements in the next year.
 
BenRoethig said:
They didn't have a prosumer Mac in the first place to replace.

Mac Mini-Entry level consumer
iMac- Mid-level consumer
none-Prosumer
PowerMac: High end Professional workstation
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What spec do you have in mind for your prosumer machine?
 
wmmk said:
interesting. do you mean make it an all in one "iMac Pro"? or minitower "iTower"?
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Tower definitely. The All in one design is elegant, but it has a lot of draw backs. It would have to be either as big as the eMac or practically useless for the said segment. I want a full featured media creation computer.
 
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